Today we will all find out the stupidity of the voters.

[Bensthename]

Fortunately or unfortunately their is a real issue that seems to be the forefront of todays vote = the summer gas tax holiday...

Hillary has put out a tax cut proposal that has been proven in the past that doesn't work. Has every expert in the country against it. Has Hillary's own staff saying it wont work. Experts have said it will cost 300,000 job losses and the oil company will just raise their prices and people will in the short term drive more and use more oil/gas. And there is NO WAY IN HELL Bush will approve it.
When Hillary is questioned on this she uses oil lobbyists to bolster her points on this. When given the facts that Bush will not approve it and no expert is for it she on TV calls experts elitists (are doctors elitists too) and says "polls are for it"..

On the other hand we have Obama giving you the truth on what will happen..

So we have two strategies.. 1. Hillary is pandering and purposely trying to sale a plan that she knows there is no way in hell that will work. 2. We have Obama selling the truth, telling Americans how it will not work and what really needs to be done.

Can Hillary capitalize on the stupid people today? We will see.

[zabet]

1. I hope this makes the front page of DU...

come on Obama supporters - REC this thread to the top!!! :woohoo:

Just like Obama, his supporters think half of the voters are stupid. I guess Obama and his supporters do not need the 'stupid' voters in America during the GE. :eyes:

Calling people stupid because they see things a little differently, is elitist....where have I heard that word..oh yeah...to describe Obama.

[AllentownJake]

6. LOL

You guys can't muster up anything over 15 recs anymore...you need to try to get the Obama supporters to do it.

You have become an endagered species...we really should set aside some habitat for you and some protection.

[zabet]

13. Sadly, the Obama supporters do not know how bad

this site is being gamed by the freepers. Even though the site 'that must not be named' is down for reworking, their sister site, the cave...has call-outs for their members with moles on DU, to rec up threads that are pro-Obama.

:rofl:

[Hoof Hearted]

39. I think this is the funniest thread I've seen all week!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

7. And saying states that voted for Obama "don't count" isn't elitist?

[bunnies]

11. Oh please.

No such thing as a stupid voter. Are you actually saying that? 2 terms of Bush and you want to say voters arent stupid?! Thats laughable.

That "moran" guy isnt stupid... he just likes to spell differently! :eyes: How elitist of all those "Democrats" to post that poor misunderstood guys picture.

[zabet]

15. Did not say that at all.

We are talking about the Dems here, calling the half that do not vote for Obama stupid, is calling Democrats stupid...not the freeper moran or the freepers that helped put junior in office.

[RaleighNCDUer]

20. And anybody who actually believes in the "tax holiday" for gas

IS stupid. It is contrary to all the fundamentals of economics.

The question is, will people abandon Hillary for it, or will they prove themselves to be willing to be lied to?

Do you support it? Or do you accept it as simple pandering, and something to put up with to get your person elected, which puts it in the category of "all politicians lie".

Now, people may have very legitimate reasons to support Hillary (though I have trouble seeing what they might be) but the gas tax 'relief' is NOT one of them - so anyone supporting her on that point, well, is stupid.

[RichGirl]

2. Do you think that solving the problems we have...

the economy, gas prices, etc...can be done with hope and inspiration??? What do the economists think of THAT plan???

[elmerdem]

14. there is more chance of hope &

inspiration solving those than a politically pandering plan that is brain dead on arrival.

Your logic=support a plan that won't work because to hope & find inspiration to deal with the problem would be stupid?

[Hoof Hearted]

3. I love ya'll's campaign slogans. AWESOME.

[dogday]

4. It will be those same stupid voters you will need to elect

Obama in the GE.. Please don't think you can win with only half the party.. We need everyone to come together in November to beat McCain....

[NJSecularist]

5. What an elitist bunch of garbage.

I hope you are happy with a McGovern-like performance from Obama in the general election. Because that is where Obama is heading right now. That is what happens when you make your presidential decisions based not on accomplishments but on "feeling good".

[mrreowwr_kittty]

31. Gas tax pandering is what happens when our education system is allowed to go to shit.

Speaking of "feeling good", what the FUCK to you think the gas tax holiday bullshit is all ABOUT?

:eyes:

[riverdeep]

45. Accomplishments?

What foreign policy experience did Hillary have? The IRA deal? The one where people actually involved in the process said her contribution was ornamental?

She had less legislative experience then Obama.

First Lady? President Laura Bush anyone?

This 'wealth of experience' was a crock.

[Auntie Bush]

8. Yeah, I guess all those stupid voters will be voting for Obama. He's 10 points ahead in NC..

Yeah, they are stupid.

[NJmaverick]

9. Hey Hillary has declared war on intelligence, with her "elitist comments"

So it's clear who she is targetting as her supporters.

[dogday]

17. Why don't you just come out and make the remark instead of

this innuendo....

[msongs]

10. wouldnt it be nice if we had a better candidate than hillary/obama the war lovers? nt

[JPZenger]

12. Hillary says she will obliterate OPEC

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Clinton_OPEC_can_no_longer_be_a_cartel.html

There are no limits on what Hillary will say to try to grab votes. Last night, she said she would take on OPEC. She infers that OPEC is hoarding oil to push up prices.

She pretends to ignore the economics and realities. Most OPEC countries do not have any excess capacity. We have passed the point of peak oil production worldwide. Much of the remaining oil is hard and expensive to extract. Saudi Arabia is the main country that is working to increase their capacity, and they threatened to stop the investment if the US puts too much effort into renewable fuels.

The problem is greatly increasing demand with a stagnant supply. Not only are large amounts of oil being used in China and India and the 3rd World, but also the Persian Gulf countries have greatly increased their own demand.

One of the main reasons for the increased prices is because the US dollar has such little value against other currencies.

The largest suppliers of oil to the US are actually Canada and Mexico. Much of the US Alaskan oil is shipped to Japan.

The retailers and refiners of gasoline actually are not making high profits. Sunoco, which only retails and refines gasoline and does not extract it, is doing poorly. Exxon's refining and retail divisions are not doing well - they are making all of their profits from oil extraction.

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[napi21]

18. I HATE to admit this, but I think there are a lot more stupid peopl;e

than there are rational and logical ones. Way too many people think about the $1.00 they'd save each week instead of how many jobs would be lost or bridges & roads not fixed. Sad but true!

[Bensthename]

21. yup, that, and the reelection of Bush last term shows the logic of the average voter..

[uponit7771]

24. unnn, I say they are uninformed vs just stupid. But Obama is leading the race stupid people wouldn't

...vote for him to the degree they are if there were more stupid people than logical

[napi21]

25. Let's wait an see how today's voting turns out. I still think anyone who

votes for this silly 18 cent reduction that they most likely won't see in total doesn't indicate uninformed, but stupidity. I'm one of the lower income DUers, and I care more about keeping the road construction workers employed, and keeping bridges from falling down than I do about the $3.60 a week (I use about 20 gal. a week) that I MIGHT get from eliminating this tax. I don't work on a road crew, but I care about the people who do. We don't have very many bridges here, but I care about the people who live in places who DO have a lot of them, and most of them are very old structures. I still think there are far too many people who are so selfish, they only care about their $3.60 and nothing else.

[lumberjack_jeff]

30. What the fuck do you mean that you "hate to admit it". No one hates to "admit" that they're smarter.

Even us idiots know that.

[napi21]

37. I hate to admit that most of my neighbors and assiciates are greedy, self-centered

stupid people who don't care about anyone or anything but themselves. OK?

[lumberjack_jeff]

38. No, you don't.

The belief that I'm the only smart person in my circle is egomania.

It isn't an admission, it is stupid politics - and generally mistaken, too.

[depakid]

19. "stupidity of the voters"

Do you really want to go there?

[hokies4ever]

22. May the dumbest state lose

[GoneOffShore]

23. Let's just keep this up at the top.

Truth versus pandering.

[paulk]

26. yes, if someone supports Hillary, they are "stupid"

CHANGE!

HOPE!

UNITY!

[Neshanic]

27. Exhibit A. Obama supporter calls voters "stupid". Then wonder why

they get tagged as insufferable snobs.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

32. Call me insufferable then.

Anyone who falls for this gas tax nonsense is STUPID.

[Hutzpa]

28. Unfortunately, the Clintons have used RACE BAIT

effectively with the help of MSM, how disgusting and disappointing
to find ourselves in this position.

Sad to say but, most voters would vote on racial issues and the
Clintons have made sure to utilize the racial divide among whites.

I will be very surprise if the voters in Indiana turn out to be more
intelligent than they have been given credit for....

[Beausoir]

33. Obama swiftboated the Clinton's on race. Plain and simple.

[Hutzpa]

40. Whooopeee!!!

I know he got called on his race and then gets told by the Clintons
that he is the one using race, the idiocy of the Clintons supporters
are beyond belief.

[lumberjack_jeff]

29. Expecting to lose?

I notice no one calls the voters in states who agree with us idiots.

But I'm sure this is part of some sort of brilliant strategy to position Obama to get Hillary's supporters in the general election. It must be a "hope" thing that I just wouldn't understand.

[Vinca]

34. OP is exactly right. It boils down to how stupid and gullible people are.

Anyone who thinks $30 over the course of 3 months is going to help them in any significant way would probably vote Republican if they upped the ante to $35. (And, for the love of God, I am not an "elitist." I've been dirt poor in my life.)

[JohnnyLib2]

35. Gooooood grief.

:banghead:

[cbayer]

36. The stupid people are so stupid that they stupidly think that the stupid

gas tax is the only thing the candidate stands for.

You are so insulting to so many.

http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgst3241+boys-are-stupid-throw-rocks-at-them-boys-are-stupid-poster.jpg

[joeybee12]

41. Great, calling people stupid...tell me that's not elitist.

And you wonder why people get turned off by your sermons.

[Kurovski]

46. I'll tell you that it's not elitist.

Stupid people call other stupid people stupid. They even call smart people stupid.

True fact. :-)

(Edited for stupid mistake because of my stupid computer.)

[garybeck]

42. Hillary's gameplan is based on appealing to the "uninformed"

call it what you want, but that's what she does. this stupid gas tax thing was discussed on olbermann the other night and the guest called them "low information" voters. unfortunately there are a lot of people in this country who don't look into the facts and they eat up all the soundbytes whether or not they're true. that's the only reason Hillary is still standing. it's disgusting IMHO.

[Bensthename]

43. !!!!! HOORAY FOR AMERICA !!!!!! You Make Me Proud.

[Ice-9]

44. Once it became clear that Senator Obama was going to have a big night,

one of the commentators (I think Chris Matthews) said something like, "This is post-pander politics. People are more interested in hearing from someone who tells them the truth than from someone who tells them what they want to hear."

Amen to that, and not a moment too soon.