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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:10 PM
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Remember when I used to defend Hillary?
Wow, she fucked up bad.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:11 PM
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1. I kind of feel the same way.
I think the people here saying she's secretly a Republican are full of it, but you're right. It has been bad.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:15 PM
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8. What's interesting is, at least it seems to me, the "Hillary = Republican" attacks have decreased.
Those are the types of attacks against which I was defending her several months ago, and I still think they are disingenuous. But I seem to be seeing those less and less because nowadays people don't have to use vague and unfounded attacks like that against her anymore: she has provided enough glaring and obvious things which you can use to attack her now.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:12 PM
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2. I use to defend her too,
:-( but now I just can't. I don't even recognize her anymore.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:12 PM
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3. Ha!
:thumbsup:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:13 PM
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4. Yep. I defended her too and feel the same way. nt
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:13 PM
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5. IBTL
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:13 PM
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6. Yup...
and yup.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:34 PM
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18. yup.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:14 PM
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7. I never defended her as I never trusted her
But for those of you that did, Im sorry you had to realize how she always appeared to me.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:34 PM
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17. While I never trusted her,
I am truly astounded at how clumsily and shamelessly she has run her campaign -- confirming my worst fears about her.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:17 PM
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9. yep. remember when I did? I used to get called a hillbot
fairly frequently for defending her. It wasn't worth it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:17 PM
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10. :) I had the same epihany not so long ago.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:18 PM
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11. Sadly, I spent many long hours in message boards defending both Clintons for years.....

....Deep down, I think I knew what they were... but I wasn't able to admit it to myself.


I'm older and wiser now.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:18 PM
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12. I used to too! Defended Hillary in 2008 until she started with the Republican nastiness...
Edited on Tue May-06-08 12:19 PM by Triana
...and I defended the Clintons all through the 90s - voted for Bill twice. More than once I raged about what Scaife had done to them. Now Hillary is all cozy with the guy and using him to destroy Obama - and she's alongside the entire Republican swiftboat attack machine and has them working on her behalf too. Against another Democrat - INSIDE the party.

What she's done and how she's run her campaign - I CANNOT - as a Democrat/Liberal/Progressive/Indy (whatever) support.

I dunno - maybe this Democratic | DLC split needs to happen. I largely think it does.

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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:45 PM
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24. McCain and Bush ...
One of the things that I can't get past with McCain is what Bush/Rove did to him in South Carolina in 99 ... But, now McCain has cowered back to the little puke ...

Same kind of thing as Clinton/Scaife ...

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:31 PM
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31. Yep. Sort of makes ya feel like you need a good scrubbing with lye soap..
..Yuck.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:18 PM
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13. Yes, I do
Yes, she did.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:19 PM
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14. Humility looks good on anyone :-)
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:21 PM
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15. Probably back when I was still defending Barack.
Before he fucked up bad.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:34 PM
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16. I'd defended both Clintons since '92
right up until she started running her campaign like she has. Maybe I just had blinders on then. I just can't and won't defend them anymore.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:35 PM
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19. No. In fact, I don't even know you as a poster. {EOM}
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:39 PM
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22. Why do you hate Oasis?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:37 PM
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20. I was even a supporter
Then Bill Shaheen opened up his big mouth. I become an undecided, but then saw the pattern of racially motivated dog whistling by the Clinton campaign and had to go to Obama.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:37 PM
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21. Her campaign has been an epic disaster.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:43 PM
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23. I used to defend her too. No more.
I also used to defend Lieberman before the the 06 primary started.

I still defend some conservative Dems who are elected to districts/ states who probably wouldn't elect truly progressive dems, but Lieberman and Hillary have no excuse.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:46 PM
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25. The HRC supporters don't want to notice those of us who lost respect for her
They want to pretend that we've always been against her. They don't want to acknowledge how severely her team's use of right wing attack methods in the campaign have alienated us. I'm part of one of those demographics that's supposed to be solidly in the HRC camp. Sorry. The campaign could have been so much better without the Tanya Harding strategy.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:46 PM
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26. I think I stopped defending her after her IWR vote.
And she has never backed off from it, unlike Kerry and other dems.

For Hillary, that vote was calculated to enhance her electability. No one can change that belief of mine. Voting for an unnecessary, immoral war for that kind of reason cannot be forgiven.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:47 PM
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27. i used to also. i was super pleased with clinton/edwards/obama as top three picks
super pleased. the more she showed her colors, however, i grew disgusted. i used to defend her against the right wing attacks, now i dont... probably because they now praise her and absolutely hate obama. lol.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:24 PM
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29. Me too!! I was for Edwards but then fine with either, not anymore
I always had such respect for the Clintons -- I really am not enjoying not liking them but they're bugging the crap out of me with the pandering to The Stupids! I had enough of that with GWB, and my vote is not on sale for any price, certainly not for thirty cents a day for 2 months or whatever.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:11 PM
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28. Oddly that was back when I couldn't stand your posts.
In another bizarre coincidence, I now look forward to reading them. The world is a strange place indeed.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:27 PM
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30. Much as it disturbs me to agree with you:
Edited on Tue May-06-08 01:28 PM by smoogatz
yep. Back in January I figured either Hillary or Obama would be fine. The longer this thing has gone on, the more Hillary has pissed me off and the creepier her rightwing connections have started to look. This business of adopting McCain's ridiculous gas-tax pander as a weapon against Obama isn't the last straw (that was more a process of steady accrual), but it is emblematic of the kinds of beds she's willing to lie in to get herself elected. Dogs/fleas, etc.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:36 PM
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32. Hats off to you...
for publicly admitting it...now, could you call my mom (clinton supporter)?? LOL!!!!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:46 AM
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33. CONGRATULATIONS!!!
:think:

Creedence Clearwater Revival: Long As I Can See The Light...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFP5afPweVI&feature=related

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:46 AM
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34. CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Edited on Wed May-07-08 12:48 AM by Swamp Rat
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 12:47 AM
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35. CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Edited on Wed May-07-08 12:52 AM by Swamp Rat
:think:

Creedence Clearwater Revival: Midnight Special :think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksGi7B5BdM&feature=related
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