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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:35 PM
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Could it be? Latest Exit Polls show Obama up in Indiana 50.5 - 49.5
and up 22 in NC!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-indiana-north_n_100447.html

UPDATE, 6:05 PM: Another round of exit polls has better results for Obama (who generally overperforms in exit polls):

Indiana

Obama: 50.5%
Clinton: 49.5%

North Carolina

Obama: 60%
Clinton: 38%

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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:36 PM
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1. Don't believe the hype
Let's be pleasantly surprised.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:36 PM
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2. Cue the Hillarites whining in 3, 2, 1...
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:37 PM
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3. Take 7 away
From Obama in each one.

Kept it to single digits in Indiana.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:44 PM
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:54 PM
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15. Obama is unique
Edited on Tue May-06-08 05:55 PM by Jake3463
With exit polls

1) His supporters are more likely to fill out the surveys
2) People lie to hide their racism
3) Clinton supporters are embarrased or secretive about their votes and are less likely to agree to the survey.
4) GOP people who vote like to lie.
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leeman67 Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:56 PM
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22. Sadly, you are mostly correct.
exit polling always seems to overstate Obama's share of the vote. The "Bradley Effect" lives on.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:27 PM
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36. Maybe the Limbaugh effect, not the Bradley effect
Why do people assume that the Limbaugh party crashers are telling the truth in exit polls, or even allowing themselves to be polled?

If a few percent of the voters are of this ilk, that would lead to a big difference in exit vs. actuals.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:05 PM
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33. You should add Machine vs Hand Counts and Caucus vs Primaries
to your list, too.

Even my SO noted after watching Chuck Todd try to explain the discrepancies in exit polls to Charlie Rose last night that true election reform (e.g., Voting machine manufacturers oppose open source code because they consider it to be proprietary information was the concern my SO had) was never addressed adequately, and we're still left wondering WTF is up with the more recent anomalies with exit polls.

:crazy:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:57 PM
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23. Ha! Play nice, boys. nt
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:56 PM
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21. I think in Indiana you may be right, but I woldn't be surprised about a blowout in NC
Take away 3 or 4 from Obama in NC maybe.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:00 PM
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28. The southern exit polls are more accurate
For some reason.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:38 PM
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4. All that means is that Obama will lose respectably in Indiana
The networks monkey with the numbers throughout the night--and always in a pro-Hillary direction.

Either that or we may have something of a Bradley Effect going on with these exit polls.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:40 PM
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5. exit polls are usually a very poor indicator.
I'd be happy if Obama is within 5% of Hillary in Indiana.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:41 PM
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6. "...a very poor indicator."
Only since 2000.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:44 PM
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9. Since 1988 When Raw Exit Polls Showed Dukakis Beating Bush Pere
~
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:42 PM
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7. Exit polls showed him up in PA too.
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leeman67 Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:55 PM
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18. Not true. Exit polls DID, however, show it to be much closer than it
ended up being. I seem to recall 52-48, and of course it ended up 55-45. Exit polls are not reliable, so your overall point is correct.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:42 PM
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8. Obama people - remember that Lake county usually comes in late
because it is on chicago time. (Though even when I was a native Hoosier living in Indiana - I never knew what time it was in the rest of the state. :) )
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:58 PM
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26. And is Lake County a biggie for us? I'm not familiar with this part of
the country at all.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:47 PM
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11. I'm trying really hard to not get excited about this possibility
I've been saying since PA that Clinton will probably will by 4-8 points. So now that he might squeak this out I don't want to set my expectations high. I'll just keep them right where they are and be happy with my ability to see the future.
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sweetrage1913 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:53 PM
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14. I got duped by the PA exit polling too...
I think I learned my lesson though. I refuse to trust any exit poll in this primary ever again. Can't wait to get to the real numbers.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:54 PM
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17. They're really using our weakness of hunger for information against us.
They know that we're starving here, so they'll just give us some scraps to keep us happy.
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sweetrage1913 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:03 PM
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31. What an awesome analogy...
Made me LOL in my cubicle... Man, I can't wait to get off work.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:50 PM
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12. exit polls only count for other countries. n/t
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leeman67 Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:53 PM
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13. Would be nice, but NEVER believe exit polling
ever since 2004 it seems that exit polling is always wrong.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:57 PM
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25. 2004 is also when e-voting came into wide use for the first time.

Coincidence?

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leeman67 Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:31 PM
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37. Nope. Not. At. All.
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:54 PM
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16. Obama was up by 17 in California.
Lost by 22.

Everyone get a grip for a few hours. Only 3% of the precincts are in in IN.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:55 PM
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20. No he wasn't
Early exit polls showed him losing California by 3
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:58 PM
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27. Oh you are right. Up by 17. Lost by 3.
Either way, he was a loser.

I loved hearing all the liberals on the radio saying "HE IS UP BY 17 POINTS!" and then making excuses the next day.

Eitherway, there is only 3% in.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:55 PM
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19. Sounds nice, but we'll see when it's all said and done.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:57 PM
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24. CNN has Clinton up 61% - 39% in Indiana with 2% reporting.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:21 PM by Seabiscuit
No exit polls available for North Carolina yet.

You made your first mistake by relying on huffingtonpost. It's become www.clintonhatersblog.bleah.

Now with 4% reporting Clinton is up 59% to 41%. Still an 18 point margin. IOW, a blowout. 46K + to 32K+.

See:http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IN

Edited to add: Now with 11% reporting, Clinton 58%, Obama 42%.

WIPEOUT!
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:03 PM
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32. You do realize all of the urban areas aren't in, right?
Lake County's polls just closed.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:06 PM
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34. So? Indiana isn't Georgia or South Carolina.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:11 PM by Seabiscuit
It's not even Pennsylvania.

Fort Wayne is in, BTW.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:01 PM
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29. 59 Clinton -41 Obama
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:02 PM
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30. Nope - don't believe it.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:14 PM
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35. I guess it makes for good reading
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:26 PM by spokane
if you can scream it from the top of your lungs.....right.

I already have this up.....

here; http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5845987&mesg_id=5845987
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