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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:37 PM
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Latest Indiana Exits Polls:
Edited on Tue May-06-08 05:59 PM by spokane
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:38 PM
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1. I wish it's true, but I have doubts. Some exits had him winning PA.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:39 PM
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2. Clinton's surrogates controlled the electoral machine in PA
Is the same true of Indiana?
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:43 PM
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6. Do they control the machine in
Indiana too??

I hope not...

Dang!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:02 PM
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16. Mixed bag of voting systems..
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:39 PM
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3. If he comes within five in Indiana and wins NC big then the SD will really begin
endorsing Obama.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:41 PM
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4. It's huffpo, probably BS
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:05 PM
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18. So if the Huffington post said the Earth revolved around the Sun, you wouldn't believe it either?
Those are numbers from the AP. It's pretty amateur to judge their veracity by the final outlet.

If you wanted to know whether they're accurate or not, you'd go straight to the source, research the methodology, look for any concrete ideological influences, and then bring your findings back to this thread.

But that's more work than just saying; "It's a lie because I don't like where it's printed.", isn't it?
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:41 PM
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5. This can't be true. Fox News has Hillary winning white men in IND 58%, and you know she won women by
probably more.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:44 PM
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7. If FOX says it's true, then it must be true (n/t)
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:51 PM
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14. Ugh, why are you watching faux newz?!
:puke:
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:44 PM
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8. Oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please
And I like this too:

North Carolina

Obama: 60%

Clinton: 38%
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:44 PM
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9. Not getting my hopes up for Obama in IN. He'll take NC easy...and Hillary will declare that
doesn't count. Only IN counts. Only the states SHE wins count.

She'll declare that her IN win means she has the nomination sealed up.

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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:45 PM
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10. That's 100.4% n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:49 PM
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11. Picky, picky, picky.
:rofl:

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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:49 PM
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12. The link says 50.5% and 49.5%.
Still, I'm not getting my hopes up. We've seen enough exit polls fail badly to predict the outcome.

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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:50 PM
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13. Indeed.
Sadly, Obama has underperformed his exit polls pretty regularly.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:07 PM
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19. Where and under what circumstances?
I seem to recall that happened to many Democrats in recent years... and never to Republicans.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:00 PM
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15. updated
feel better.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:04 PM
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17. That's a Clinton win, by the way. Obama consistantly performs below the exits. Probably 53-47
Add 3 to 4 points to Clinton over any exit polling (if history is any guide).

On to Oregon! YEEEEAAAARRRRRGGGHH!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:11 PM
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21. Uhh... yeah, but she needs a BIG victory.
Even then she can't catch up with anything but a miracle.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:16 PM
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23. True. Too bad the Messiah is on our side
:)
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:45 PM
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29. Which one?
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:29 PM
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26. As the note in one place says, The exit polls "are notoriously unreliable."
Of course, we can't speak a word about the electronic voting machines. The voting machines, as we know, are always reliable, but not the exit polls.

Golly, Gee, I wonder why this is?

Must be something essentially wrong with exit polls.

Just can't trust them.

But the voting machines which have been found by every study ever conducted on them to be totally hackable, insecure, patchable, trivially easy to fraudulently program, run by extreme partisans and in many cases ex-felons, now here's something we can really trust.

There's absolutely no way to know what the real result of either of these elections is when it's over, but you can be sure of one thing: the exit polls are closer to the real result than the machines, and more trustworthy, that is, before they're re-calibrated to match the machine results. So the early results using the raw data, if that ever becomes available, will more than likely give a good idea of how the vote actually went.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:11 PM
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20. CNN Exit polls show Clinton with the win (about 7%)
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IN

55% of voters women 45% men.

Women voted for Clinton: 53%
Men voted for Clinton: 51%
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:15 PM
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22. Both of these are within moe
Obama always underperforms the exit polls though. Strange phenomenon that started happening aroun 2000 wherever the pukes want a candidate to win, that candidate outperforms exit polls by just enough to win :eyes:
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:24 PM
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24. What is the MOE on CNNs? Its not listed? NT
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:25 PM
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25. Those numbers suggest 4%, not 7%. /nt
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:30 PM
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27. Where did the 7% come from?
55% x 53% + 51% x 45% is 52.1% (to 47.9%) = 4.2% margin

Are you addding an adjustment for exit poll bias? Are they?
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:31 PM
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28. Hmm. If this holds close, then the big story of the night is that Obama did well with women.
In Pennsylvania, Clinton won women by 18%.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:49 PM
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30. Remember, where you heard it first,
Huffpo are calling Indiana for Obama and thats whats going to
happen.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:32 PM
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31. They're wrong too . . . it's already down to 4 percent. nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:33 PM
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32. Depending on how Lake County goes, HuffPo may've got it!
Here's hoping...
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:36 PM
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33. With 60-65% in Lake County, that would be spot on.
Hopefully the exits were correct.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:57 PM
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34. Looks like Huffpost prediction is going to hold n/t
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