Just because Obama isn't the first choice of the "white working class",

[virtualobserver]

doesn't mean that they will vote for McCain.

The economic reality will grow even more negative as we move to November.

There will be a clear choice for every voter, regardless of their economic situation. McCain will not inspire confidence any more that Bush does.

[RazBerryBeret]

1. hey, I'm "white working class"

and Obama IS my first choice.
and the first choice of most of my working class friends.

[Triana]

3. So am I!! AND ALL MY NEIGHBORS. We ALL voted Obama..

...yet another reason I'm not buying the meme.

[virtualobserver]

4. I wish that I lived in your neighborhood

[Triana]

2. furthermore, the 'white working class' is an ever-shrinking demographic..

...people need to get that through their skulls. So Hillary got more of the Bubba vote (and I'm not completely buying that meme). But a lot of Bubbas are pissed off with bu$hit, they DON'T like McSame and a lot of them are voting for Obama.

[rocktivity]

6. Right--the right working class is shrinking into the white working POOR.

are they really going to prefer someone who's as blatantly anti-union as McCain?

:headbang:
rocknation

[TexasObserver]

5. that term is a reality cloak, and misused

What, oh what, is a working class white? Well, it's a bullshit term to cloak the real demo: White people who tend to use race as a measure. Simply put, they don't want to vote for a black guy to be president. Quarterback? Great. Point guard? Absolutely. Coach? Sure. But president?!

So these white folks are spread out among a variety of demos, appearing in healthy numbers in whites who are Older, or less educated, or lower socioeconomic, or union. But those categories cloak the real category: "Taint votin' for no negro!!"

It's time we called out the racists in the party and give them a good dressing down. It starts with the key to the problem: Hillary.

[virtualobserver]

11. I think that the term as used is meant to imply lack of education

Since Obama won the 65 and under crowd in Indiana,the the real problem seems to have more to do with age, as in Obama's own Grandmother.

[TexasObserver]

13. yes, it's the people who graduated high school before 1960

born before 1942

grew up in apartheid and thought it normal

over 65 now

that demo of non blacks just crucifies Obama, and I blame Hillary for exploiting it

[virtualobserver]

15. The Clintons play all of the angles..........

It makes for a very incoherent message.

[TahitiNut]

19. Whew!! Thank God! I just make it under the wire!

:cry: I sure hope I'll be allowed to vote for Obama. :eyes:

[saigon68]

20. It looks like they did

My father and Uncle's generation. Most of them are out and out racists.

They used all kinds of cute phrases to mock blacks with. Thankfully they are dying off. Good riddance to these bigots.

They voted for George Wallace in 64 and 68 and were going to in 1972, until Art Bremer capped the racist dude.

[Spazito]

14. I, too, want to know what this "white working class" crap is....

It seems to me it is the new "separate but equal" innuendo. Is it now "white working class" and "black working class" or is the message being sent that the only "working class" is white?

The phrase is very ugly both in it's intent and it's actual wording, imo.

[TexasObserver]

17. it's a way to exclude blacks and other minorities from the group

it means white people with limited educations who don't make a lot of money

[Spazito]

18. Exclusion is exactly what it is and the intent behind it, imo, is

very troublesome, to say the least.

[TragedyandHope]

7. Frankly, too many of us, even Obama supporters are falling for the MSM BS

Obama simply would not be where he is today with out broad support, including many white working class voters. 54% percent of his votes in NC were White. He obviously had strong support in Indiana, not to mention Iowa and many other states.

There's no question that in absolute numbers, Obama has had a greater number of white votes than black votes across the country.

We have to move past this and realize these are all AMERICAN votes.

Obviously and wonderfully, the majority of Democratic voters agree on Obama and have shown an eagerness to embrace the best leader for the job regardless of sex, race, age or any other superficial characteristics.


I have heard of two main stripes of "Obamacan" Republicans for Obama. One type voted in the Primary and will also vote for him in November because they are sick and tired of Bush and Washington politics as usual. The others intend to vote for McCain in November, but see Obama as the next best choice to run the country if McCain loses.

Regardless of what you think of Ron Paul, he does seem to be touting Obama over McCain. And that appeal does reach some of the cross-over audience.

[virtualobserver]

16. I agree, he wouldn't be in this position without white support

I just feel that all of the voters that are supposedly "lost" to Obama aren't lost at all. I believe that he will win by the greatest landslide in American history.

[TragedyandHope]

21. No, those voters are not lost.

That was all a part of the spin and MSM narrative, which has been a horribly bad indicator of the will of the American people this year.

I don't know about greatest landslide in history, but I do think he will win a decisive victory, giving him a mandate from the American people and sending a strong message to the Washington establishment. I think he will win with a much bigger margin than the current ridiculous 6-months in advance, three-way polls indicate.

[crankychatter]

8. with half the elegible electorate unregistered... WHY do we always get redirected to internal shit?

I will NEVER get that.

The mindset is like an unconscious plan for failure.

[sandnsea]

9. Look at the entire country, not just the east

Obama is doing fine with the "white working class" in most of the country. Many of the lower income voters are women on social security, something none of the media has bothered to tell you.

[grannylib]

10. As a damn-near fifty, white working class woman making WAY less

than $50,000/year, you bet your ass I'm supporting Obama. I can't afford four more MONTHS of fucking rePiglicans, let alone four more years.

[Blue_In_AK]

12. I'm white and I work

so I guess that makes me white working-class, too. :shrug:

[cottonseed]

22. They're establishment voters.

The only thing that turned it into "white working class" was the overwhelming support from the black vote (also establishment) for Obama. It's irresponsible for the press to dice this thing up black/white, these voters are establishment voters, and can be picked up when the entire Dem party coalesces.