So... incredibly... irritating.

[gcomeau]

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/07/993007.aspx

"We were very excited about our come-from-behind victory in Indiana, where people are concerned about the economy," she said. "There's a lot of reasons why I think we came from eight or so points from behind to win,

It's one thing to cherry pick polls, but she's just making this up. IE: Lying. Again. I just went through the entire RCP Indiana polling history back to the beginning of April when they started seriously looking at the state and Obama has never, not once, polled up 8 points in Indiana in that entire time.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/in/indiana_democratic_primary-639.html

Not only did she not come from "8 points or so behind"... she didn't come from behind AT ALL. One pollster... ONE... had Obama up in Indiana. And that was Zogby by two points, within the MoE. EVERY other polling outfit had Clinton up. Some significantly. Survey USA, who Clinton supporters relentlessly declared to be the most accurate of them all to everyone who would listen when they reported these results, had her up by 12.

The best Obama ever did was one single blip in April 25-27 where he bumped above her in poll averages by 3 whole points. At every single other point in the race he polled behind.

And all of a sudden it's a come from 8 points behind win? And people wonder why she has honesty issues with the electorate?

She does it to herself. Over, and over, and over.

[Occam Bandage]

1. I'm betting the excuse will be that she was referring to her internal polls.

Not that I'm saying her polls ever showed any such thing, mind you.

[madaboutharry]

2. Why does she do that?

It is just stupid.

[anigbrowl]

3. And if the media are so in the tank for Obama, why don't they point out that it's BS?

She'd probably backpedal and say they had an internal poll that showed Barack winning every race by a huge margin so every vote is a victory. She has become a parody of herself.

[grasswire]

6. they agreed with this last night

They on MSNBC talked about a poll that had shown Hillary 25 points down in IN at one point. So it must be the case.

[gcomeau]

8. What poll?

I think there was one from some independent outfit in February that had Obama by 15...

Found it. Some group called "Howey-Gauge" said he was up 15 on February 18th. And from this link:

http://www.howeypolitics.com/2008/02/26/howey-gauge-poll-toplines-feb-16-17-2008/

They seem to have deliberately heavily sampled young voters for those results.

SAMPLE SIZE: 500 LIKELY VOTERS
FIELD DATES: FEB 17-18, 2008
TOPLINES
Hello, my name is ______________________ with Gauge Market Research. We do not sell anything; we
just conduct various types of surveys. Tonight we are conducting a public opinion survey among
registered voters in Indiana.
I would like to speak to the youngest male, registered voter who is at home now who is eligible to vote in
Indiana elections. (IF NO MALE AVAILABLE, ASK…) May I speak to the youngest registered female
voter who is at home now who is eligible to vote in Indiana elections?
Do you or does anyone in this household work for:
The news media? (IF YES, POLITELY TERMINATE)
Advertising or public relations? (IF YES, POLITELY TERMINATE)
A marketing research firm? (IF YES, POLITELY TERMINATE)
An elected public official? (IF YES, POLITELY TERMINATE)

In other words, completely invalid poll for projecting overall primary results. there's no way this could be used to justify a "came from behind" claim. It would be absurd.

Edit: and apparently they also tend to oversample the AA vote. They were sampling DOUBLE the AA vote almost anyone else was in Indiana:

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/the_demographics_of_the_indian.php

...AND the lowest female sampling. 51%. Completely out of whack.

[Berry Cool]

4. She has GOT to have such sore shoulders by now

lugging those goalposts to a new location every two minutes.

[Faygo Kid]

5. The Feinstein comment today convinced me that she is about to have a Nixon moment.

You know, when Nixon was visited by Senate leadership in the White House in August 1974 and told, that's it?

She can't possibly believe her own words here. If so, she's delusional, and needs to bow out gracefully. If not, she's a realist, and will certainly bow out gracefully.

Guess we have to cut her slack, but I hope some of her remaining supporters here at DU have enough grasp on reality to wince when she says such things.

Justice John Paul Stevens is 88 years old. Roberts, Alito and Clarence Thomas are very young justices. Think about it.

[MadMaddie]

7. Blunder after Blunder since the first super Tuesday

Poorly managed campaign, money and inner circle. She followed bad advice from the likes of Terry M and others.

And the blatant lie that you pointed out, it was always hers to lose. She needed a overwhelming victory and eeked out a win by a couple of points.