I absolutely will not vote for Obama if he pays off Hillary's campaign debt.

[Raven]

No question about it. That will be it. This is not easy for me because I have been harping on the need to keep the SCOTUS from going any further to the dark side but if Obama pays off $100 million Hillary with the $100's raised from people who couldn't afford it but believed that he would change Washington, well, I will just simply give up on the Party and sit the whole goddamned thing out. I mean this...it would really be the last straw and I can imagine no explanation whatsoever.

[GetTheRightVote]

1. He shouldnot use our donations for the other candidate, that is all wrong

just give it back to us if he does not want to use on himself.

[Mezzo]

50. what about all the money he has poured into the superdelegates, many of whom are elected.

it's ok for them, but not for Hillary? my, my, my.

[Yael]

57. Um -- that is to help them with reelection bids

Not to pay off their own loans to themselves on vanity campaigns to nowhere.

[MonkeyFunk]

100. So anybody who doesn't win

is running a "vanity campaign to nowhere"? That's just stupid.

[northzax]

104. yes, because Robert Byrd really needed that twenty grand

I bet john Kerry did too.

[jasmine621]

94. Many forget that Bill Clinton paid off a few Dem debts when he was flush with cash

in 1992 and 1996. It's done all the time. You folks just have too much hate. It is going to ruin Obama's image eventually.

[northzax]

106. scorched earth is not reconciliation

what good will primary money do Obama when this is over?

[Yael]

138. He can use it in the general -- just not vice versa

[Divernan]

113. C'mon, cite your claim - whom did he "pay off" and how much did he pay them?

And we are NOT talking about being a guest speaker at or sponsoring a fund raiser. We are talking about a candidate's official, legally governed & regulated campaign fund.

HRC's latest Big Lie, enhanced with the Big Spin - "it's done all the time."

John Glenn struggled for years to pay off the personal bank loans he took out to fund his failed presidential primary bid. Chris Dodd endorsed Obama but Obama is not paying off Dodd's debts - and Dodd has not asked him to.

So back up your "it's done all the time" or admit you're lying.

[TahitiNut]

131. They weren't allowed to SPEND any of their funds in Michigan, the state in most need, but ...

... they can use those funds to bail out her profligate spending elsewhere? Funds that came partly FROM Michigan? Fuck 'em ... and the whores they ride around on.

:grr: :grr:

[Fridays Child]

135. I see the logic of paying the debts but only up to an amount that excludes...

...the loans made by the Clintons to Hillary's campaign. At the end of the day, Democrats would want their contributions to help get the Democratic nominee elected--whoever that person ends up being. However, putting any money back into the Clintons' hands is nothing but welfare for the rich, and that's what Republicans do, not Democrats.

[FARAFIELD]

2. BOY!??

There are TONS of reasons why people wont vote for OBAMA. YIKES>, Just shows that Hillary is the stronger GE candidate I guess

[Yael]

3. He has my vote, but not another dime until I hear that this is off the table

You should email the campaign and let them know how you feel about this.

If enough of us do this, maybe they will put an end to our collective heartburn over this issue.

[City Lights]

7. Agreed...my husband emailed the Obama campaign earlier this evening. nt

[Yael]

25. Any response?

What email alias/address did you send it to?

[City Lights]

32. Not yet. He sent it through the contact page on Obama's website. nt

[Yael]

42. Thanks!

[Eurobabe]

65. I just blasted them, see post #63 below

[City Lights]

123. Nicely done!

:applause:

Please let us know if you hear back from them. So far all he's gotten is a generic response.

[Eurobabe]

125. I received the generic response too

I wonder if we will hear directly from anyone?

[City Lights]

126. I'm calling today...alreadly called once, but no one was available to

take my call. Will call again later. I want to make sure they understand this is a serious issue for many of his donors.

[Raven]

8. Good suggestion. I will do that. Can't even believe this is being

seriously considered!

[City Lights]

13. I wonder if it's being considered or just pushed by the bobble-head media.

I've yet to hear anyone associated with the Obama campaign comment on it.

[Yael]

21. Thats the thing -- we NEED them to comment on it.

[hisownpetard]

11. I wrote to them today, stating that I was a frequent contributor to his campaign but, before

I send another contribution, I want to be assured that the money he's raised will not be used
to allay HRC's campaign debts.

I received, as expected, an automatic response. Don't know if a more specific response will follow or not.

[Yael]

24. What email alias did you use?

I wonder if we should get a good address and have a concerted effort to make sure that this is being heard?

[hisownpetard]

137. He must be getting a lot of emails from all over, asking this very question, so

chances are he'll have to send out a bulk email soon, addressing the issue
if he wants people to keep contributing.

I love Obama, but I'm not about to pay any part of Mark Penn's daily $100,000 lunch bill.

[WeDidIt]

23. I responded to Plouffe's email saying much the same thing

Not another dime until they publicly declare there is no way the Obama campaign will retire the Clinton campaign debt.

[Yael]

28. Good move.

I haven't written yet as I am still multi tasking with work and my DU addiction. :evilgrin:

I will this week though. They need to know that their "1.2 million donors isn't a fundraising list, it is a political party" as James Carville so aptly put it (noting that it is 1.5 now) isn't viewing this option too favorably...

[WeDidIt]

33. Here's the text from mine

Until I hear directly from the campaign that paying off the Clinton campaign debt in order to get her to drop out is off the table, I cannot in good conscience donate any further money.

To date, I have donated $XXX.XX to the Obama campaign (OUT OF TEXT NOTE:I edited the number here for privacy. The total number is less than $200). This during a time in which my wife has been unemployed, we're behind on our mortgage payment, we both face medical issues, we're late on nearly every bill we have, and things just keep getting worse. I donated to the Obama campaign in the hope that things would get better. I have NOT been donating so that a multi-millionaire (9 figures worth) who floated herself $11.4 million to tear down the candidate I believed in could pay herself back.

Until I hear the Obama campaign publicly and forcefully declare the option of retiring the Clinton campaign debt is off the table, not one dime more.

(One Other Out of Text Note: I became an Obama Donor on February 10, 2007 and make small donations from time to time.)

[Yael]

40. Ooh -- I like that!

:applause:

[WeDidIt]

47. I was also a donor to Obama in 2004

for his Senate campaign.

I'm one of his constituents.

I shoook his hand on March 16, 2004 in downtown Chciago after having already voted for him in the primary for the Senate.

[Yael]

48. I was fortunate enough to see him speak during his PA "Whistle Stop" tour

He was with our Senator, Bobby Casey.

Enjoyed it!

[WeDidIt]

51. My first experience hearing him speak was in Federal Plaza

October 2, 2002.

I was taking a walk in the loop and happened upon an anti-war protest.

I was convinced on that day that the man speaking should be our president.

[Yael]

52. Was that his infamous "Johnnie and I have experience and Barack has a speech from 2002" speech?

[WeDidIt]

97. It sure was. He said everything about the war that was about to be

rammed through the Congress that every Democratic Senator should have been saying.

At the time, it was popular to be rattling the sabers and beating the drums of war. Obama put his entire political career on the line to say the right things.

All Hillary had was a craven vote for war ten days after Obama gave a brilliant speech on why it would be a dumb war.

[hisownpetard]

143. Yael - Checking online, this issue is being discussed at the Daily Kos and other sites,

with most people having the same reaction as we had.

I'm sure it has come to Obama's attention. As far as I can tell, neither he nor his campaign have ever mentioned this -
it's all coming from talking heads who are jumping to conclusions.

Obama is so in touch with his supporters, it's hard for me to imagine that he would entertain that possibility, even
for a second.

What do you think?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

95. You Obama people sure have a lot of conditions.....

n/t

[Carolina]

118. and Hillbot's like their candidate are

are the epitome of hypocrisy and hubris.

The little guys, those vendors, HRC has yet (if ever) to pay should be talking loudly and clearly about how that alleged fighter (just words) for the little guy stiffed them while paying the likes of a Mark Penn!

They should be pointing out the hypocrisy of her loaning herself $11 million from her own bank account while stiffing them...

This idea of Obama paying her debt is so whacked and it's being pushed by HRC, her surrogates and the fucking M$M. Fuck 'em all. They are multimillionaires who should pay their own fucking bills. PERIOD!

[stellanoir]

4. He won't.

[Solomon]

5. I'm having a hard time right now because I want to give some

money but I don't like the idea of it going to pay off her debt. But, if this is considered standard party occurrence, i.e. the winner usually helps cancel the other's debt, then I would feel better about it.

[WeDidIt]

26. No campaign has EVER incurred as much debt

as Hillary's.

[northzax]

107. and no campaign has ever raised and spent money

like both of these campaigns have. Together they have raised and spent almost $300,000,000. Three hundred million. That is ten dollars for every vote cast in the primaries. By November, it's not unreasonable to think that Obama himself will have raised $300m on his own. He is raising it faster than anyone can spend it. He's got people who are flat broke, who can't pay the electric bill, giving him money. What should he use the forty to fifty million tagged for primaries on?

[oregonjen]

6. I'm upset at what the pundits have been saying in that regard

Hillary is in it still to negotiate a debt relief from Obama's campaign. All of us who have been donating have been donating to Obama, not to support multi-millionaire Hillary.

I will vote for Obama, but I would be very upset if that is where our money went.

[Cha]

9. We'll have to let them know..

and make a stand on hilary's behavior at the same time.

[Teaser]

10. stupid goes by many names

.

[keep_it_real]

12. It may not be possible for him to legally do so

[anigbrowl]

14. It's a rumor, not something his campaign said

I suggest you treat it as such. I am OK if he pays off small vendors or suchlike who are out of pocket.

[Fox Mulder]

15. And have John McCain win?

Geez.

I can see him winning in November because people won't vote for the Dem. candidate for one stupid reason or another.

[Raven]

34. Sorry, not a "stupid reason". If Obama does this it will signal that

the Democratic Party that he perports to represent is so corrupt that I will not support it. I will go a long way for it but not that far.

[Fox Mulder]

38. I can understand that.

I don't want Obama to pay off Hillary's debts either, but the main goal here is to defeat McCain in November, not help him win.

[w4rma]

16. He had better be planning to use that money for the general election and *not*

paying for Hillary's attacks on him.

[Bigleaf]

17. It's like a fucking shake-down, extortion. Pay off my debts and I'll go quietly or else. Fuck it!

Let her stay in as long as she wants. I wouldn't give her a fucking nickel.

[arewenotdemo]

87. Absolutely. Not a fucking nickel.

[LoZoccolo]

18. You get a free mug of A&W root beer!

[elocs]

19. I agree. It's better to punish American for decades rather than Obama to pay off Hillary's debts.

I can't argue with such impeccable logic. People whose lives are devastated because of poor healthcare and soldiers who are wounded and die will all want to thank you. Simply brilliant.

[Tatiana]

20. I don't think he should repay her personal loans or Penn's fees.

But I don't see anything wrong with helping out those small, locally-owned businesses and school districts that really need the money.

Obama has a lot to spare. He can afford to help our the little guys who did nothing wrong except provide a service and expect payment. He won't be able to use primary money in general election anyway.

[Carolina]

116. then those little guys should be out and about

talking loudly and clearly about Hillary -- the alleged fighter for the little guy -- who stiffed them while paying the likes of a Mark Penn!

They should be pointing out the hypocrisy of her loaning herself $11 million from her own bank account while stiffing them...

This idea of Obama paying her debt is so whacked and it's being pushed by HRC, her surrogates and the fucking M$M. Fuck 'em all

[Yael]

139. Actually he can use primary money in the GE -- just not vice versa

[Pale Blue Dot]

22. No question... that's MUCH more important than who controls the Supreme Court.

:eyes:

[WeDidIt]

27. I'll vote no matter what

but not another dime unless he takes it off the table.

[NC_Nurse]

29. Why would he do that? He needs the money for the GE. Nobody paid Mitt's

debt for him. She's not exactly hurting for money. She needs to pay her own debts.

I'd still vote for him, but I would have even LESS respect for the Clinton's than I'm left with now.

[AZBlue]

30. He isn't - you're falling for another one of Hillary's smears.

[unkachuck]

31. I hate to be....

....the fart in the elevator, but what's the problem?....

....so what if he buys hillarys love and enthusiastic support with OUR money, just as long as he becomes OUR president....isn't that the goal?....

....I'll be happy when President Obama takes the oath of office and begins working on OUR problems....

[Raven]

36. Ah, I don't think so...not when he's taken my hard earned money

to work out her problems first. Not going to happen with me.

[Brundle_Fly]

134. well he could use your hard earned money

and more and more of it to keep this primary going and going...

its either one or the other, I personally have no problem with it.

[Yael]

49. She got her multimillionaire ass into this, she can take responsibility and get out of it

I don't see Dodd, Edwards or Biden clamoring for their campaign debts to be paid (mush less outstanding invoices to Mark Penn or loans to THEMSELVES because their egos were to big to admit that they needed to drop out)

[KaryninMiami]

128. Thank you Yael- well stated. If she wasn't able to raise enough funds to run her campaign

and has debt to pay off- that's her problem, frankly. My money to Obama was not sent to pay off her debts. Furthermore, she repeatedly threw out how much Obama had out spent her in every race which infuriated me every time- he out spent her because HE RAISED MORE MONEY- there's nothing wrong with that- how dare she use that against him! The Clintons have plenty of money to pay off their own debts to cover for the money they are not able to raise- period.

[Carolina]

120. so what?

it's a slap in the face to all of those who donated to HIM!

The Clintons need to fade away not be paid away. They created this mess for themselves and they have the personal fortune to pay their debts now if they'd just fucking get out and go the hell away!

[democrattotheend]

35. If he helps pay off her small vendors, I'm ok with that

But I don't want my hard earned money going to pay off Mark Penn or repay Clinton's personal loans.

[Carolina]

121. no, those small vendors

should tell the world what a liar HRC is.

She talks a good game about being from the working class, being a fighter for the working class and other lies.

But the truth is she loans herself $11 million from her personal bank account to continue her losing egotistical quest for power while STIFFING THEM!

[Hippo_Tron]

37. Raven, I'm sure such an agreement would include her donors giving him that money back

It's a swap of sorts. Hillary is in debt because her donors are maxed out. But they can donate to Obama still. If he pays off her debt, her donors will give him that money back.

[Raven]

39. Boy! Something smells about that. She's a big girl, let her pay off her

own debt. I wouldn't mind if Hill gave him a list of all the little people that she's screwed but that's about all I could tolerate.

[Hippo_Tron]

45. I would say at the most, Obama will take on $10 million of her debt

And he can raise that back again in a week. Hillary and Bill will be useful in the General Election. If $10 million is what it takes to buy them, then that's a pretty good price.

[Carolina]

122. I can't tolerate even that

those little guys should tell the world what a liar HRC is.

She talks a good game about being from the working class, being a fighter for the working class and other lies.

But the truth is she loans herself $11 million from her personal bank account to continue her losing egotistical quest for power while STIFFING THEM! WTF

[Pisces]

61. Then let those donors pay up now for her. Dont spend my money on her.

[Hippo_Tron]

72. They can't, they're maxed out

[PurityOfEssence]

41. Ya know, it's about time to start a "threat of the day" award...

Doncha think?

[Life Long Dem]

43. How do you suggest Obama win this?

It might not be a bad idea. At first I thought no way. But the more I thought about it... Money can be spent on commercials in the same way. That is to win. And isn't that what this is all about?

[Yael]

53. Ethically. no.

I would rather put the money in the pockets of the local affiliates than repay Hillary her loan (plus interest) and pay off Mark Penn's pizza bill.

[Jamastiene]

44. Well, NOW, I've seen it ALL.

:spray:

[AllentownJake]

46. It's politics

If this is what it takes to make her go away and campaign for him...that's what it takes.

Her big donors who can't give anymore money will make up the gap not the people paying $100.

[Yael]

56. Then let him show it as funnelling

For every $2,300 donation he gets from a Clinton donor, he will give her $2,300 to offset her bills.

NO dipping into existing funds.

He is all about transparency. If they agree -- then we should demand transparency to show that they are taking advantage of election reform 'loopholes' and not milking the TRUE donors to pay her back her loan.

[AllentownJake]

58. The MSM

would have a field day with that.

Better just to quietly pay the two off and let them go away.

[Yael]

68. FEC rules -- no "quiet" about it.

[Carolina]

124. that's extortion

the Clinton Crime family.

Geez, the right wing was right about them all along.

What a fool I was to have been such an ardent supporter throughout the 1990s.

[RBInMaine]

54. Cool your head. This is way too premature.

[backscatter712]

55. RUMOR CONTROL: Where have you heard that Obama would pay Hillary's campaign debts?

As far as I can tell, that's just Internet rumors and TV bobblehead speculation until someone shows me otherwise.

[Pisces]

59. I just e-mailed the campaign. I can not have 1 penny go to paying her personal loans or

Mark Penn. the lay men no problem.

[Yael]

69. Thank you

[dansolo]

60. What about the small vendors in Iowa that are waiting to get paid?

I wouldn't mind if Obama paid off Hillary's debts to the small vendors, or the local schools. Those people shouldn't have to suffer because of Hillary's lack of money management. He shouldn't cover her loans to her campaign, her payments to staff, or to her pollsters, but he could generate a lot of good will if he helps out the little guys that have been screwed by the Clinton campaign.

[Pisces]

64. I have no problem with the vendors, but a bigger question is why is she still spending money

she doesn't have???? Racking up more bills?? Get the fuck out if you can't pay for it yourself.

[Yael]

70. Or if you don't want to get out, take responsibility and foot your own bills

I don't have issue with him paying the small vendors. My issue is with her fiscal mismanagement. She should have to eat that.

I didn't hound the Edwards' campaign about the $300 in Edwards' Store items I paid for but never received (thanks to Joe Trippi's 'end of January' fundraising) yet we are supposed to bail out a miltimillionaire with middle class donations?

I must be confused by this whole concept being floated here (likely by her campaign) -- I thought we were Democrats, not Republicans.

[TexasObserver]

98. Since Ed Rendle was claiming they would raise $20 mil for revotes in Florida, send him those bills

[dailykoff]

62. Wouldn't you know the Clintons would be first in line for reparations.

K/R

:mad:

[Eurobabe]

63. Here is my comment I sent to the campaign website:

I have heard rumors all day that the Obama campaign is considering "retiring" Hillary's $10M debt to make her leave the primary race.

If this is true, terrible move on the campaigns' part. How do you think all those people, who believed enough in "change and hope," to give $5 or $10 will feel when they hear this news? Clinton dug her own grave and overspent, maxxed herself out -- let her use her $109M she and Bill earned to pay for her missteps!

I have given Obama over $XXX.00 during the primaries, but if the campaign uses OUR money to retire HER debt, just to make her disappear -- I will not contribute another dime to Obama's efforts. Please tell me these rumors are not true, if this happens, alot of us will consider this move a big fat sellout. I didn't donate so you could use my money to pay for Hillary's slash and burn ads in Penna.

Consider your options carefully,

48%er

[Yael]

75. w00t!!

:applause:

[Colobo]

66. If that's what it takes to get rid of Hillary, let's do it.

[dailykoff]

84. Paying blackmailers rarely gets rid of them.

It will, however, increase his chances of losing the GE.

[graycem]

67. The only froot loop that has said this

is Tim Russert right? I don't think that's going to happen, yet, I agree that he would gain it back anyway, when her supporters donate to him in the GE if nothing else. At first I thought, no freakin' way, but meh, he'll get it back in the end.

[Robeson]

71. People gave him money to win the nomination....

...I have no problem with him cutting a deal with his rival, to secure his nomination. Cutting deals is what politicians do. Only dictators deal in the realm of absolutes.

[Yael]

77. So, does that mean that he will reties Chris Dodd's debt? How about refunding middle class ME

for the $300 in Edwards' Store merchandise that I ordered during Joe Trippi's January Month End fundraising blitz?

Can Obama send me a check for that too?

(Noting that I donated to Edwards in good faith as opposed to loan myself money for a vanity campaign to nowhere...)

Do you realize that her interest payments (to herself) between January and June will top $70,000 on those loans? INTEREST. TO HERSELF.

I don't know about you, but I don't make that much in a year much less 6 months.

[Robeson]

81. What do they have to do with it. His main rival was and is Hillary....

...in case you haven't noticed.

[dailykoff]

86. And he beat her four months ago

in case you haven't noticed. And he doesn't have to pay extortion to make her go away.

[Robeson]

88. Sorry, but you're being naive...

...getting the Clinton machine on his side, gets a lot of city, state, and party politicians - throughout this country - on his side. You don't get those for free in politics.

[dailykoff]

92. He's doing just fine without that corrupt bunch of DLC-PNAC hacks.

And he'd be a fool to dilute his message by cutting deals with them.

[Robeson]

93. It's over. Obama has won the Democratic nomination. It's time for the party to get together...

...that includes the Clinton wing of the party, whether you are comfortable with that or not. We will need her voters. We will need her constituency. We need blue collar white guys, the older vote, and the GLBT vote. Not just a percentage, but all of them. We'll need every vote we can get.

[Carolina]

119. FUCK the Clintons

people everywhere are having their eyes opened to the fact that the Clintons care only about themselves. And the Clinton machine has exposed its nasty underbelly in this campaign and is vulnerable because it is being defeated.

The Clinton machine needs to fade away not be paid away.

[dbredes]

73. It's SOP in the campaign handbook

It's pretty common...

It's often cost-effective....Fighting in National Media or even local markets is expensive..

But...if Clinton stays in until after the last primary...I'm not sure what the reasoning would be...since most advertising needs would be over...

Also her poorly run campaign has been very very expensive..Isn't it something like 12 Milion in loans to her...and 10 Million more debt?

If she wins the VEEP contest...her campaign debt will just be absorbed..

While it may seem shocking...this like "street money"...are pretty common practices..

[Yael]

78. Give the money to the local media markets. HRC is on her own.

On edit -- which payment will "stimulate" the economy?

[dailykoff]

82. It's completely absurd. It's like double jeopardy.

She's been bleeding his GE fund keeping this asinine primary going and now she wants to suck MORE cash out of it? Was this Dick Cheney's idea or what??

:crazy:

[northzax]

110. bleeding his fund?

Please, she's making him money. You think he raises twenty five million a month in March and April and probably May, if this primary is over?

[dailykoff]

79. Whose campaign book? Can you give examples?

I've never in my life heard of buying out a primary loser who refuses to drop out.

[ecstatic]

74. it would essentially be taking from the poor to give to the rich

completely unacceptable, in my book; however, I will vote for Obama no matter what.

[kwenu]

76. I don't believe he would do that for minute. Let Hillary's supporters bail her out.

Especially the ones in PA and Ohio.

[woolldog]

80. I sent a note to his campaign on this.

[dailykoff]

83. If there was any doubt the Clintons are the lowest of thugs,

this rumor proves it if true.

[BzaDem]

85. Well I've heard lots of pretty rediculous reasons not to vote in the GE, despite the SCOTUS,

but this is really takes the cake. I haven't seen such an immature whinefest in a long time. Cry me a river. If you're willing to throw out Roe v. Wade and everything else because of what he does with some of his hundreds of millions, something that many other candidates do, something tells me you wouldn't vote in the GE regardless.

[davidpdx]

89. As much as I dislike the way she's campaigned

I have no problem with them paying off the vendors (other then Penn). I don't agree with them paying off her personal loans. Those I believe do not have to be paid back. Let her write those off as a loss and pay Penn what she owes them either with what money is left or out of the Clinton's pockets.

[Lord Helmet]

90. especially if she keeps racking up debt knowing she can't win

[swishyfeet]

91. Oh Jesus, nobody was forced to pay!

This is about the stupidest thing I've heard today - and it's been a day of some serious stupid shit.

Maybe it'll help her GOTV for Obama. I gave my $$ with no strings and will trust BO to do the right thing.

[Catherina]

96. I will. I'll vote and send him more money. The PROBLEM

is that I can't send him another dime to fight McCain until the GE, no one who maxed out can.

It will be a LOT cheaper to pay her off, no mater how repugnant that feels, so we can quit wasting money responding to her 527 ads, and start raising the necessary GE funds for a concerted fight against McCain.

Please reconsider. I was with you 3 hours ago but changed my mind since. I even had a letter ready to send to Plouffe about it.

Please reconsider.

[Raven]

101. It has been very helpful to read the arguments on both sides

of this issue and to be reminded of how important getting a Democrat in the White House is for the Country (something I'm always reminding others of! :-)). I will keep an open mind on this but it really bothers me that when all is said and done, and with all her talk about fighting for the little guy, it's all about $$$ with Hillary.

[Zachstar]

99. I think you need to accept SOME paying back.

For instance him paying back the various people screwed over when she did not pay.

THOSE people need to be paid otherwise that is going to harm us in November.

But I 100 percent agree that the loans Clinton gave herself are HERS to pay back! Not ours!

[Raven]

103. A good point, raised earlier here, and I agree that he should

consider making all the little vendors who have been screwed by Clinton whole. What a sad commentary on our politics, though!

[Zachstar]

105. Yes but atleast Clinton will take the Blame

Having Obama pay the vendors back is going to make her look VERY bad and her seat in 2012 will likely be a contest.

[OzarkDem]

102. What have y'all been smokin'?

This has to be the wackiest tinfoil hat story in a long time. :tinfoilhat:

Go on, kids, go clean your rooms.

[Jamastiene]

108. CALL CONGRESS!!! RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!

:rofl:

This one is bookmark worthy.

[OzarkDem]

112. Manufactured outrage

:rofl:

I hope they do this during the GE, not just the primary. Something tells me that won't be the case. Its a wimmin' thing, gets them all riled up.

[Perry Logan]

109. Yea, but a couple of Hillary's supporters might vote for him.

[Meshuga]

111. Nice logic...

Throwing the people who couldn't afford donations under the bus by enabling a McCain presidency.

[MJJP21]

114. Absolutely not

There is no scenario on which I could agree on Obama paying off Hillarys debts.The poster who said that it is not fair for the common guy or girl who dug down into his pocket and gave $25.00 for the Obama campaign believing like I do that a man like this comes along once every hundred years or so only to give it to someone like Hillary is right. If history is any barometer of future reality the Clintons have shown they have a knack of making money and lots of it. As I have posted here and elsewhere I want to know the TERMS of the loan she gave herself. I know that somehow she and Bill are going to make a killing on this loan to herself.

[LaurenG]

115. That is not my biggest concern.

How much is it worth to you to not live under Bush 3?

It's only money, my concern is keeping a republican out of control.

[futureliveshere]

117. Raven, this might or might not happen

Last I saw she had enough money of her own to pay off any and all debts. She is not going to just vanish into the blue you know. She has won a lot of support and the Clinton name is still powerful. Even if he does pay her debt off, it would still be a reasonable use of money.

But Kos makes an interesting point about the debts, so please do read this.

Paying off her debts

So please support Obama and forget about the Clintons.

edited to update content.

[minnesota_liberal]

127. If it does happen, do you really want McCain?

I find the idea of paying off Hillary's debt as unappealing as you do, but would it really be so bad that you'd prefer McCain? For me, the answer is NO! Having McCain could be even worse than Bush.

[bigtree]

129. ha ha. All of that pushing folks around to support this guy and you'd fold on this??

What strange conviction.

[FlaGranny]

130. I wonder how much you REALLY

are behind Obama if this would prevent you from voting in the GE. The Clinton hatred around here is just too extreme and counterproductive. I'm an Obama supporter since the first of the year. I want Hillary out of this and I want Obama to have enough of Clinton's "good will" so that she will throw her support behind him and bring along many of her base of voters to the GE. We need them.

[Bucky]

132. I absolutely will not vote for Obama if he doesn't buy me a pony.

I want a pony! Therefor, I'm a fucking Moran.

[LaurenG]

133. Bucky

You live in the city, you may not have a pony in the city, you know this. :rofl:


be nice.

[truebrit71]

136. I see your point....I don't think it will happen though...

...

[NeedleCast]

140. Hyperbole-man.jpg

Good lord...

[IntravenousDemilo]

141. It's not as if the Clintons are particularly hard up financially. If they ever claimed that they...

...would suffer without that extra ten million bucks, when everyday people struggle by on what they make and sometimes have to worry where their next meal is coming from, that would make them seriously elitist. The point is, don't gamble more money than you're prepared to lose.

[TexanDem]

142. THIS IS GENERATED BY MEDIA PUNDITS -- NOT CAMPAIGN

I called the Chicago headquarters and asked. Made a new thread about it here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5885298