clinton tearing us apart on racial lines

[dempartisan23]

in my opinion she is now appealing to whites to vote for her because she is white. i am disgusted with her decision to bring bigotry into the campaign. where are our leaders??

[asjr]

1. I don't think much of your opinion. Hillary

Clinton is not a bigot and you know it. You are just rejoining the Hillary bashers. Enough is enough.

[TwilightGardener]

3. I didn't think she was, but USING bigotry to try to scare SD's into supporting her

is just as bad. She can burn in hell, for all I care.

[EFerrari]

10. If she wasn't appealing to bigots and just courting the working class vote,

wouldn't she be talking about her long pro-labor record? All working class people aren't white, right?

[TwilightGardener]

15. Don't be silly, blacks don't work. They're "egghead" elites, or some other "special" group.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. and the majority too... don't forget that one

the last thirty six hours have been surreal

[ChairmanAgnostic]

49. latte-lapping, prius-driving ones, too!

[casus belli]

33. You should really have a look at the garbage at Hillaryis44

You can't tell me that racial politics are not playing a role when a Hillary support site is rampant with comments like "We need a white unite for Hillary". It's disgusting, frankly.

[roguevalley]

50. she is. no one in the media and elsewhere has any other interpretation.

[NJmaverick]

2. I think she is trying and failing and making herself look worse for her efforts

[TwilightGardener]

4. I am absolutely appalled. She's lower than whale shit.

[Texas Hill Country]

5. omg, seriously... she is talking about voting blocks and you people are injecting racism... its

not her that is tearing the party apart... it is you fools.

[TwilightGardener]

8. Why is she bringing up white people, in a Presidential campaign?

Why is she pushing the (false) idea that whites won't vote for Obama? Even if she thought it was somehow her saving grace and last hope, she shouldn't SAY IT OUT LOUD, for fuck's sake!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. THC you really are THAT ignorant of the CODE?

This is PRECISELY why the Dixicrats left the Democratic Party in the 1960s

This is the actual language...

Pick a book on the history of the period, and chiefly read it

I do expect many hillary fans to leave the democratic party for the same damn reasons the dixicrats left a generation ago

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[Tyler Durden]

7. Again, she is a divisionary bigot, BECAUSE she is white???

What utter and complete horseshit.

Man, you people really don't want us back, do you?

[redqueen]

9. That is so far removed from what the OP actually said.

*sigh*

[TwilightGardener]

12. Why is she mentioning white people, or race in general? Where does that fit into a healthy

Presidential race that's GOOD for the country, GOOD for unifying us?

[dempartisan23]

38. hillary is using racist code words

[Occam Bandage]

13. Though OP was vague, you misunderstand. OP's meaning was:

"she is now appealing to whites, claiming that whites should vote for her on basis of her skin color." According to OP, The fact that she's white doesn't mean she's a bigot. The fact that she's using her skin color politically is.

I think the OP exaggerates, but at the same time I do agree that Hillary's current tactics are unconscionable.

[EFerrari]

16. The OP didn't say that.

[calmblueocean]

20. It's not because she's white.

I think what people are responding to here is the perception that Hillary is asserting that she is more electable because of white racism. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, but you can't be surprised that voters for the Democratic party -- the traditional champion of minority rights -- find the notion of appeasing white racists offensive.

[roguevalley]

51. not that asshole. and as for asking anyone back, no. go if you can't

stay. do anything you want. we will win anyway.

[marylanddem]

11. She is absolutely full of shit & needs to do us all a favor

and get the hell out of the race. She is walking & talking like a bigot. Fuck her.

[dogday]

14. Here is my standard respons for these types of threads

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5882471&mesg_id=5882800

[EFerrari]

19. You're still blaming us for a tactic Clinton is using.

No one at DU is running that campaign.

[dogday]

21. I am blaming everyone, don't group me Pat, I believe I posted

everyone and not one group or the other.. If for some reason you are compelled to group me, please do not.. My interest are for all of us to unite as one block to get our candidate in office...

Why do you find this so offensive?

I did not say anyone was running a campaign, I said it was being done.. There is no organization to calling people any label, it is a freestyle event practiced by many here....

[EFerrari]

23. I haven't generalized about you in any way. I said "you". n/t

[dogday]

25. You're still blaming us for a tactic Clinton .....

You are accusing me of grouping what I can only perceive by your statement as Obama supporters, by using a Clinton tactic, is grouping me with a demographic that has posted such things..

I however have not posted these types of posts, and do not appreciate your trying to put me in that position....

I am only posting what I see, I don't shrill for one side or the other, I only can post what I see and read.. Those are the facts I know...

[EFerrari]

26. You generalized, saying :"We are doing it to ourselves.".

I didn't identify you as part of any group. You did, though, and I didn't amplify your own statement or draw conclusion from it.

Edit to add: I merely said, we are not "doing it" to ourselves. We are dealing with a divisive and destructive tactic coming from the Clinton campaign, who has chosen to use that path where there are other that aren't divisive available to them.

[dogday]

27. Then you will not see.. or cannot

and for that I am truly sorry....

[EFerrari]

29. Spare me. You're the one blaming the victim -- the party

for what the Clinton campaign is doing.

[dogday]

31. So you have never called anyone a bigot or a racist?

Fuck the Clinton campaign, this is about everyone, whether you see it or not..

Take off your blinders man.. You have a one-sided view of things....

[ampad]

17. Those of us who are hip to her shit,

and I would argue that it would be the majority of the electorate, are not falling for her race baiting. Those that choose not to vote for Obama because of the color of their skin do so at the risk of their well being. I don't think we should reward them for their bigotry. Let them go the way or Rush and get the hell out of our party and Hillary can do the same as far as I am concern. I don't think there are as many as Hillary and her supporters would like you to believe though. This is all they have left and while they wallow in the shit they look desperate and petty. This is the true face of her and those who still support her after all this. It's good that it is getting out there for us all to see. The lengths this woman will go is not a testament of strength at all. Had she had the strength or "balls" as many has boasted that she has she wouldn't be bringing up this stupid shit. She would be running this campaign based on what she can do for these people not the color of her fucking skin which she had nothing to do with. At this point she is just fucking pathetic and hopefully the SD's will end this for us once and for all.

[ShortnFiery]

18. Yes, it's VILE. Where are the superdelegates? Stop the bleeding?!?

[dempartisan23]

36. they seem to be cowards

[WeDidIt]

22. The End Game of the Shaheen Strategy

They started dog whistling race politics with Bill Shaheen, continued through the early races until it hurt them so bad they nearly ahd to end their campaign in February, and now that West Virginia and Kentucky are in play they're back to the race baiting.

[The Night Owl]

24. Brilliant analysis.

:eyes:

[dempartisan23]

37. yes it is.

[bain_sidhe]

28. I am really unhappy with this turn

that her campaign has taken since Tuesday.

I was all for her staying in, and racking up the turn out in the remaining primary states... but not if she's going to do it this way. She's just driving the ambivalent not-really-racist-but-uncomfortable-with-"other" whites toward McCain.

That's just wrong, and will hurt us--and by us, I mean the party AND the country.

[roguevalley]

52. the party and country is all that matters to me now. I don't want to

die in a country that has no hope of being what it is supposed to be. i have no personal ego in this. I keep my eyes on my babies. I want a good world and a chance for them. I don't want the same old crap ever again.

[Auntie Bush]

34. Where were you?

Where were you when Obama and Michele called for blacks to support blacks?
Check out their early campaign/stump speeches and hear for yourself. Obama wanted to be the second MLK with a movement to rally blacks. Obama's people accused the Clinton's of being racially bias....when they tried to help and were sympathetic to black people there whole lives...yet they were called racist. Obamites deliberately twisted the Clinton's words and started the divide between races and then they defected in hoards in SC forgetting all the 30+ years of good vibes/will between Blacks and the Clintons. Obamites, Barack and Michele are all GUILTY of starting the racial divide which happened months ago... Now you blame Hillary! What a fairy tail! Does that comment make me racist too?

The real joke is...Barack asked the nation to have a discussion about race...then they turn around and accused anyone and everyone of being racist whenever someone tried to discuss or racial problems or make a comment or observation. No, No, No...can't do that...but Obama and Michele can stump and give speeches about our racial divide regularly...but you can't answer or comment in return. Hillary can't even speak about the subject or comment on which race votes for whom and she is ostracized as if she were a leper or Hitler. This primary is the nastiest most unfair one in history and I hate everything about it. Obamites have destroyed this party with their hatred of Hillary. They have themselves to blame for the split in this party and I will never forgive the spew flung at one of our candidate...Hillary.

[seaglass]

35. Auntie Bush I'm right there beside you. Not a big Hillary fan

(though between the two I prefer her) but what has been done to her by Democrats on this site has been far far worse than anything the Republicans ever did to her. It's sickening.

[shaniqua6392]

39. It has been a double edged sword

that has cut Senator Clinton in half. The Obama's have created the racial divide. We can mention the percentage of blacks that have voted for Obama, but Clinton can not mention any of the statistics that make up her voters. Calling her a racist is pure crap and I think this is all going to bite us in the ass in November. What is Obama going to do to bring over the white voters? He can not and will not win the GE without her constituency.

[Auntie Bush]

41. Wow, you can say that again! I just wish someone was listening!

Too bad, because now the presidency depends on winning white voters...but they seem more interested in bashing Hillary than winning the presidency and 2-4 SCJ. Too bad they are so blind sided by hate...generated all by themselves

[shaniqua6392]

46. As Democrats, we can be our own worst enemy sometimes.

Just look at some of the people we put forth as candidates. Not to mention other mistakes we make when it comes to being a "big tent" party. I think the hate and vitriol here on DU is not representative of the average person though, and I find that comforting. I still think he will have to put her on the VP ticket eventually to mend the fences. I know some people absolutely do not want to hear that on DU, but I think the odds are high that that will happen. Just pay attention to the tone of the candidates the last few days. Over the next few weeks they will be praising each other to high heaven and then it will happen after he gets the nomination. This is politics, and it will be an acceptable solution to the majority. She has 16 million votes so far that can not be discounted. John Kerry lost to Bush by about 500,000 votes. Just do the math. The Democratic Party can not risk it. Obama can not win without the Dem and Independent White voters.

[marshall]

40. It's up to us to fix ourselves

We (collectively) must rid ourselves of racism. Her supposed tactics wouldn't work unless there was some residual racism out there. It must be purged and then we can move on.

[Arkansas Granny]

42. If you are referring to the statement that is being discussed here today,

I believe it has been misunderstood. As you know, the media and the polls have broken the voting population down by race, gender, economic background and a host of other qualifiers, and her remark was apparently in reference to a newspaper article that had mentioned that segment of the voting population and not an actual appeal for white voters.

[AZBlue]

43. She is a bigot and a racist and I hate her for that.

[WinkyDink]

44. Yeah, sure. Peddle it elsewhere.

[Clear Blue Sky]

45. This is her strategy to get the nomination.

Put the racial fear into the super delegates. Make them think that Obama can only get black votes. I don't think it will work, but she will certainly try. Watch for the racial innuendos by the Clinton hacks.

[1776Forever]

47. To me this just says once again - Hillary will do and say ANYTHING to get elected and/or hurt Barack

Anyone with any amount of brains knows that West Virginia and Kentucky have a large percentage of people who could be classified as having racial issues. Not to say they all do, but a large percentage do and I know that from personal experience unfortunately.

[BenDavid]

48. LMAO.......before you start this bigotry and racist crap again,

maybe ya better take a look at yo guy first, because it was he and his campaign that introduced race into this campaign and then with the help of a willing whoremedia played the race card and then blamed hrc. Now all you obama folks see is if anyone is critical of obama we are bigots, racists and as I said before you can call me whatever, cause I been called worse, but if you do not think a balck man can play the race card then maybe you should stay away from a voting booth.

Ben David