*** BREAKING*** Big Money to Pelosi: Revote MI & FL or we'll back McCain

[denem]

The Speaker's Reply? "Don't ever threaten me again."

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Hillary Clinton supporter Harvey Weinstein threatened to cut off contributions to congressional Democrats unless House Speaker Nancy Pelosi embraced his plan to finance revotes in Florida and Michigan, three officials familiar with their conversation said

Sources say Harvey Weinstein threatened to cut contributions to congressional Democrats. Weinstein and Pelosi talked on the phone late last month, the sources said...

Another person familiar with the phone call said what might have upset Pelosi is that Weinstein also suggested that if Democratic leaders "did not fix" the Florida and Michigan problem, powerful Democrats may abandon the eventual party nominee in favor of Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, in November...

"He was trying to get Pelosi to promise not to shut the race down," said one of the officials familiar with the call, which came before the primaries in Indiana and North Carolina.

But Pelosi, who has repeatedly insisted she is neutral in the presidential showdown, refused to meet Weinstein's demands.

"She said, 'Don't ever threaten me again,'" said a second official familiar with the heated conversation.

Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami would not characterize the phone call to CNN, saying only: "This was a private conversation, one of many the speaker has about the presidential campaign."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/08/weinstein.pelosi/

Weinstein vehemently deniers that he issued any threats - Well he would say that wouldn't he?

[Dbdmjs1022]

1. Nancy Pelosi is my hero! And these big-money Clintonites are making me sick.

[mod mom]

35. Sick to my stomach as if their wishes should supersede those of a donor who is struggling

and yet donates $10. Fuck the elitists who think they own the party!

[geiger]

2. and now Pelosi says the race should go on?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/08/weinstein.pelosi/index.html

[ShortnFiery]

11. Yes, Pelosi folded like a cheap (pants) suit. DAMMIT! Is there no morally courageous democratic

LEADERS in congress? WTF is going on with DEAN.

END THIS NOW!!!

[geiger]

16. they just don't get it.

Or, worse, they don't want Obama to change the way things get done.

[ShortnFiery]

27. I'm beginning to believe that these RICH Democratic Representatives do NOT "feel our pain"

They don't KNOW what it's like to be financially strapped because they are so f**king RICH that WORKING is "a hobby" for them.

I'm becoming disgusted at the "haughty air" of our illustrious ... so called Democratic Leadership.

These spoiled rich BRATS don't "have a clue" how us LOWLY peasant classes FEEL. :grr:

[geiger]

33. the arrogance of power....

[geiger]

45. the issue of color...

of money.

[shaniqua6392]

51. Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner. Pelosi finally decides to grow a spine.....over this issue rather than the multitude of issues they were supposed to fix once we voted them into office in 2006. Hmmmm. Only time will tell I guess.

[superkia]

20. Kucinich, but I think they ignore him because he is too short?

[geiger]

26. they've got enuf of the "short " vote

[ShortnFiery]

34. Yeah, I bet HRC will brag about "Randy Newman's Endorsement" :P

After all, us SHORT PEOPLE have "no reason to live." :(
Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
To live

They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Well, I don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Round here

Short People are just the same
As you and I
(A Fool Such As I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It's A Wonderful World)

Short People got nobody
Short People got nobody
Short People got nobody
To love

They got little baby legs
And they stand so low
You got to pick 'em up
Just to say hello
They got little cars
That go beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin' peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They're gonna get you every time
Well, I don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
'Round here

[denem]

42. Pelosi didn't fold. They wanted a revote in MI & FL - She said NO.

Hi - I'm a business man. I'm ringing to blackmail the Speaker of the house. - Fuck Off.

[ShortnFiery]

3. They can take their "big money" and shove it! If Pelosi folds, she deserves to be ousted.

:grr:

[Andy823]

12. I second that.

I am not from California, but if I was, I would not be voting for her if she caves to the big money backers of Hillary!

[Bread and Circus]

4. Last time I checked Obama's little donors totally smashed Clinton's big rich daddy donors.

[Buzz Clik]

5. He didn't make any threats? Good. Then the request can be ignored.

[Coexist]

6. Speaker Pelosi - if he bolts,

send an email to Obama's donor list, and we will have your back.

[mdmc]

13. YES

[ShortnFiery]

36. Yeah, but she's letting "The Devil's Rejects" (HRC's Campaign) to continue their Zombie Campaign

Why can't Pelosi and Dean get the superdelegates to ACT NOW?!?

[TwilightGardener]

7. Why HASN'T the party shut the Clinton parasites down? We need a tapeworm pill to get rid of them.

[cliffordu]

8. Note to "Powerful Democrats"

Fuck you. This party might not need you in a couple months.

[SoCalDem]

9. McCain thanks Harvey for his one vote

:rofl:

[rucky]

10. Good on Pelosi!

If only she were as tough on the GOP nitwits as she is on our own nitwits

[nomorewhopper]

14. This is a perfect time for Obama/Pelosi to show that they arent Hollywood elites and SLAM Weinstein

they should go totally public with this info.

it would show that the dems are not the party fo the radical, freakshow hollywood types

[babylonsister]

15. Sure sounds like Weinstein is dumber than I'd ever give him credit

for. He'd back McCain? Whose interests does he want to protect? Certainly not Dems. And I wonder if he got one of those 3am calls from the Clintons with encouragement to act like the ass he seems to be?

[geiger]

22. he's arrogant, perhaps?

[americanstranger]

29. Is he a DUer?

He's making the same 'take my ball and go home' noises as many posters here!

Harv! Reveal yourself!

- as

[AtomicKitten]

17. Effin hell.

:banghead:

[hogwyld]

18. I love you Nancy!

You go girl! And BTW, we got your back!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

19. Pro Hillary Forum urges donation to McCain, votes for McCain

HILLARY INVOKES THE NUCLEAR OPTION
Posted May 8, 2008 08:23 AM PST

Hillary is sending a message to the Democratic leadership that if they do not install her as the candidate for November, she will have her supporters throw the election to McCain
http://208.68.175.86/discussion/showthread.php?t=10041

[JRicks_GA]

38. The same people harping about how important the..

Supreme Court is, now threatening to vote McCain. Hillary supporters never cease to amaze me. They're basically twisting arms to get their candidate "installed". How democratic of them, the most Machiavellian campaign I've seen. They'll do anything to have their candidate, damn the consequences.

[Name removed]

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[americanstranger]

23. That's proof that big money has way too much say here.

Weinstein is an ass. But the fact that he thinks he can bully Pelosi into doing his bidding is very telling.

It's way past time for public financing of political campaigns. If private citizens want to donate, let them donate to a non-partisan general fund to be disbursed to qualified candidates. That way, people like Weinstein won't be able to lord his money over candidates - and if he's still inclined to be an involved citizen, he'll have no reservations about putting money into the kitty to finance all candidates.

- as

[AllentownJake]

24. No Lincoln Bedroom Sleepovers

for you Harvey next year :rofl:

[knixphan]

25. The dinosaurs are going extinct

http://actblue.com/directory

WE can match any big-money he wants to throw to McCain.

Or has he not been watching?

How much has Barack raised to date, on his own?

We don't need fat cats.

As more 'real people' wake up and donate, Wein becomes more obsolete.

[burythehatchet]

28. I absolutely LOVE stories like this. This is EXACTLY what the real Dem party needs

Get these fuckers out of the party. No more. Not this time, not ever again. If their loyalties as firm as Rush Limbaugh's man boobs, they need to scram. Good riddance.

[denem]

50. Amen.

[XemaSab]

30. St. Fu, smiter of trolls,

deliver us from Harvey Weinstein, now and in the hour of our death.

Amen.

[gkhouston]

31. if they've got "big money" they can fund a re-vote themselves. n/t

[Quixote1818]

32. We don't need these types of ass holes. Obama can raise hundreds of millions

from just everyday people. These dinosaurs are no longer needed. Their has been a fundamental shift in the Democratic party. The little people are in charge now! :woohoo:

[uponit7771]

49. RIGHT!! 1.5 million donors * 25 bucks = 40 million ....they WISH they could THINK about that kind of

...dough

[anigbrowl]

37. Weinstein is famous for negotiating by yelling

That's how he does business, and that's how you have to operate in the film distribution world (which is very aggressive - like a small scale version of Wall Street). Don't draw too many conclusions from it, he's just throwing a tantrum.

[frickaline]

39. haha Nancy you rock! Now THATS a fighter! nt

[BeyondGeography]

40. Earth to "Big Money": Hillary is $25 million in debt

and Little Bucks Barack can buy her loyalty if he needs to.

Wake up and smell the fucking coffee, Harvey.

[last1standing]

41. Anyone, rich or poor, willing to move to McCain over Obama was never a Democrat.

Does Weinstein care about reproductive rights? Does he care about separation of church and state? Does he care about the slew of issues that Democrats stand up for against repubs? If so, he will vote for, and donate to, Democrats.

If he is just putting his money toward the person he thinks will give him the greatest return then I would definitely feel better if he went to McCain.

And that goes for anyone else who thinks that McCain is a better choice than Obama.

[KaptBunnyPants]

43. My response. Vote McCain and take your traitor ass to the Republican Party where you belong.

We don't need big money's support if they are going to demand the right to dictate Democratic policy.

[beachmom]

44. This really epitomizes what the Clinton wing is about.

"You're either with us, or against us". And without them, the Democratic party may as well not exist. What do you think the "scorched earth" tactics were about? When Germany was about to be defeated Hitler called for a scorched earth policy of DESTROYING the entire infrastructure of Germany. Why? Because if Germany wasn't ruled by Hitler and the National Socialists, it may as well not exist. Even under those extreme times, loyalists wouldn't let it happen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Speer#Minister_of_Armaments

Hitler continued to consider Speer trustworthy, though this trust waned near the war's end as Speer, at considerable risk, campaigned clandestinely to prevent the implementation of Hitler's Nero Decree. The Nero Decree was issued on 19 March and it promoted a scorched earth policy on both German soil and occupied territories. Speer worked in association with General Gotthard Heinrici, whose troops fighting in the east retreated to the American-held lines and surrendered there instead of following Hitler's orders to make what would have been a suicidal effort to hold off the Soviets from Berlin.

Speer even confessed to Hitler shortly before the dictator's suicide that he had disobeyed, and indeed actively hindered Hitler's "scorched earth" decree. According to Speer's autobiography, Speer visited the Führerbunker towards the end and stated gently but bluntly to Hitler that the war was lost and expressed his opposition to the systematic destruction of Germany while reaffirming his affection and faith in Hitler. This conversation, it is said, brought Hitler to tears. On 23 April, Speer left the Führerbunker. Now in disfavour, on 29 April, Speer was excluded from the new cabinet Hitler outlined in his final political testament. This document specified that Speer was to be replaced by his subordinate, Karl-Otto Saur.

Now I do not imply that this situation is anywhere near the Nazi period. But IF the Clintons are indeed bent on destroying our party, then I am sure an "Albert Speer" will appear to prevent it from happening.

[PlanetBev]

46. Idle threats...

Like a screaming toddler, spinning on it's back in the Walmart parking lot.

[uponit7771]

47. Question: Why does the DNC "need" Big Money any longer? 1.5 million donors = 40 million a month...

...that's CRAZY dough and something they can't even think about razing.

[denem]

60. Does the DNC need the DLC?

[RainDog]

48. Face It, Harvey

[peaches2003]

52. Another slimeball member of the Clinton machine

There are so many it boggles the mind- Mark Penn, Howard Wolfson, Fast Eddie, James Carville, Lanny Davis, now Harvey Weinstein.

[denem]

54. This is the corporate machine. This is THE battle for the party.

[wildeyed]

53. She can talk that way to him because the big donors are becoming less important

now that the huge amounts of $$$ can be raised on the internet from small individual donors.

[AZBlue]

55. Go Nancy! Maybe Weinsetin would like to pay for those revotes?

[RainDog]

56. The Miramax "demographic" is Obama supporters

who does he think pays to go to see their movies? The ones with subtitles, stuff like that? Not that Obama supporters wouldn't go see his movies, but is he really that out of touch with his own "constituency?"

[AZBlue]

62. Hillary must have promised him some big favors.

[denem]

57. Weinsetin IS proposing to pay for the revotes,

It's that important to the "Powerful Democrats" as in $$$ Corporate power.

[On the Road]

58. It's Not Pelosi's Decision to Hold Revote

Nor is it Dean's, although he supported the idea and lobbied the two states to get it done. Seems like Weinstein was going to the wrong people.

[denem]

59. No, but they would not try threatening Dr Dean

Congressional Dems who rely on the DSCC are more vulnerable.

[stillcool]

61. Who says Clinton doesn't get the...

rich white vote? Perhaps these guys are in a demographic of their own.

[Califooyah Operative]

63. wow.

They're trying this again? It's going to backfire. This stuff might have worked during the 90's, before the 50-state strategy, before Dean '04, before Obama '08 and the 1.5 million donor base/political party. I'm glad Pelosi responded the way she did.

[anonymous171]

64. Now she gets a spine.

Well, better late than never.