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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:36 PM
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Is "Unelectable" a code word for black?
Edited on Thu May-08-08 02:37 PM by not_too_L8
I keep hearing "there is just something about him" I think he's unelectable
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:37 PM
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1. No, it's a code word for female
:hide:
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:08 PM
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48. Then somebody better tell Bill & Hillary to quit using it pronto
SD's are not amused.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:09 PM
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49. Obama is Unelectable ... that is code for Failure!
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:13 PM
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50. He will be when Hillary's through with him, if she has her way
It's all part of the Hillary!2012 campaign, doncha know.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:51 PM
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52. 08 comes before 12 doncha know?
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:10 AM
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53. Not for Hillary, though
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:58 AM
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54. Wow, someone still has "Hillary is 44" in their sig! ....
Edited on Fri May-09-08 09:00 AM by gorekerrydreamticket
Check it out!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:37 PM
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2. Yup.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:37 PM
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3. I don't think so... we'll find out in November.
Stick a fork in Hillary. She's done.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:38 PM
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4. Yes.
What else would make the person who's winning *less* electable than the person who's losing?
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:32 PM
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37. It doesn't
unless you live in Hillaryworld.
(which is not the same as reality, btw)
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:38 PM
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5. No its a codeword for Hillary's presidential run.... n/t
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:38 PM
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6. dupe
Edited on Thu May-08-08 02:38 PM by rudy23
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Tim4319 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:39 PM
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7. That, amoung a long list of other names.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:39 PM
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8. It's code for "I almost caught up to him".
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:40 PM
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9. No
but I'm sure you guys will make it so, just to keep inventing stories about racism.
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:46 PM
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21. not made up... "hard-working Americans, white Americans"
"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said in an interview published Thursday. She cited an Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:57 PM
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26. Yes....
but I was just told not to play the sexism card.

:rofl:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:40 PM
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10. its possible, but I think its a last clutch at straws before drowning.
and less a racist comment.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:40 PM
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11. It must be, because
Here's the current polling:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5879965&mesg_id=5879965

Both Obama and Clinton poll well against McCain. They poll differently in different areas, each has their strengths and weaknesses. But they both have the ability to win an electoral victory this November against McCain.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:41 PM
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12. No, it's not code; it's clear. It describes Hillary Clinton to a "T"!
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:41 PM
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13. absolutely. they would never say this about a white guy, "oh, we don't really know him," "there
could be an October surprise." these are all euphemisms for "he's black"
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:45 PM
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19. Exactly - when the hell else have we ever needed
a back up candidate "just in case"
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:55 PM
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25. The 'elitist' DUers were saying that about Kucinich a year ago.
By 'elitist' I mean the same condescending, arrogant crystal-ball-gazers who were predicting the 'inevitable.'

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:42 PM
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14. Yes...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:42 PM
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15. Of course it is. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:42 PM
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16. yep.. page 49 of the HRC codeword codebook
others are

blue collar
working class


just a tweaking of the republican favorites

values voter
heartland
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:44 PM
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17. NO -- Bill Clinton's "electability" was questioned in 1992
Edited on Thu May-08-08 02:45 PM by flowomo
during the primary. I recently read an article about that. And certainly George McGovern was widely considered unelectable in 1972.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:00 PM
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30. don't forget...
Kucinich and Edwards, their "electability" was also questioned. It's a political statement used when you don't have much else.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:03 PM
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31. correct...
so many of my favorites over the past 40 years have been dismissed as "unelectable" --- including McGovern (and he wasn't, it turned out)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:29 PM
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35. But it didn't become a catch phrase. n/t
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:44 PM
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18. obviously
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:46 PM
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20. Yes, in Clintonworld - and "elitist" is code for "uppity" nt
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:47 PM
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22. Yes. n/t
n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:49 PM
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23. No. I think what she said was "the Sheriff is getting nearer"
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:49 PM
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24. Yes nt
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:59 PM
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28. What nonsense.
Everything is not racist. Plenty of us don't like him for political reasons.

By crying racism over every criticism, you are playing the race card.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:31 PM
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36. Oh, please. Everything is not racist but racism is racist.
Edited on Thu May-08-08 03:33 PM by sfexpat2000
Consider the arc of the Clinton campaign. When was the last time she disagreed on POLICY?

By pointing out race baiting over and over again, we're pointing out using race as a wedge issue. And, btw, "the race card" is a phrase coined by RACISTS.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:42 PM
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38. It certainly is . . .
If Rev. Wright had been a white man, he would never have been an issue.
But he was a big, scary black man, so we had to spend weeks listening to MSM playing clips of his sermons in a loop.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:43 PM
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39. We're better than that and American voters are agreeing that we are. n/t
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:09 PM
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40. and that's why
she didn't pull an upset in NC.
And it is very likely she would have lost in Indiana if not for the dittohead crossovers.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:22 PM
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42. And the purging of black votes in Lake County.
Thousands of them. We'll never hear about that on CNN but it happened.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 02:59 PM
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27. Only if "No" is a code word for "Yes."
Sheesh.

Google (with the quotation marks to get the words in order):

"gore is unelectable"

"kerry is unelectable"

"mccain is unelectable"

and so on with the name of any politician who's ever run for president, and you will see that word used again and again by people who sincerely doubt they're electable.

How in the world do you get so paranoid that you have to believe when it's said about your candidate that it indicates racism?

You know, you really do come across as KoolAid drinkers when you have to come up with outlandish theories like this to try to explain why not everyone in your party is as madly in love with Obama as you are.

I think he MIGHT be electable. And I will vote for him. But I believe HRC would be more likely to win the GE.

But Obama supporters aren't doing themselves or their candidate any favors by posting silly threads like this implying anyone who doubts he's electable is racist.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:00 PM
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29. Its the code word for a woman running to be President
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:04 PM
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32. No. Look at past campaigns....
This has been said about a wide variety of candidates. Don't you remember the pundits and his Democratic competitors jumping all over Howard Dean, calling him unelectable? I certainly do (since I was a part of his campaign).

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romana Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:11 PM
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33. No
Edited on Thu May-08-08 03:13 PM by romana
It's a word people who don't support a particular candidate throw around, and has nothing to do with race or sex. I had to listen to it repeatedly in 2004 with Dean, and when I challenged people to explain why Dean was unelectable, but Kerry was was, none of them could articulate their reasons. They were just buying into the stupid talking point.

It's a stupid word to use, no matter which candidate you apply it to. The only candidate who is unelectable is the one who doesn't get elected in an actual election.

Edited for grammar.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:27 PM
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34. Absolutely.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:10 PM
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41. If Democrats stick together like Repukes do
It doesn't matter if our candidate is Half Black or a woman. It would be a landslide. But as usual. Just like the Democrats in Congress. We rarely stick together
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:22 PM
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43. "Unelectable" Is a Code Word for "My Opponent"
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:45 PM
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47. ^^
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:24 PM
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44. Yes.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:31 PM
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45. Mostly, it's just a sign that Democrats have a MAJOR problem with self confidence.
Edited on Thu May-08-08 04:31 PM by Perry Logan
This is understandable after fifteen-some years of biased news and rigged elections.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:31 PM
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46. No. It's code for "not Hillary."
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:19 PM
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51. Yes..
that's the argument being made... Kerry was unelectable because he wasn't charismatic, Gore was unelectable because he wan't liberal enough? Clinton was unelectable because he couldn't keep his peepee in his pants. There's always an excuse. Democrats have got to stop doing the Republican's job for them. Geeze.

Obama is just as/more electable than Hillary. She started out this race with high negatives and those have been there for years, and they are solid, you're not changing those minds. If she is on the ticket, the Republicans who aren't excited about McCain and likely to sit home, will suck it up just to come out and vote against her.

And for anyone who believes he isn't electable because he's black, well, I remind you that racism and sexism go hand in hand.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:15 AM
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55. If this isn't "playing the race card" I don't know what is!
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