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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:41 PM
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Once again, BartCop sees what most thick-headed Democrats cannot.
Boy, oh boy. Just take a look at the Clinton-hating posts on this forum! It was never THIS bad on Free Republic! All this hate still boiling out over an enemy these people claim is DEFEATED.

Why? Where does this horrible level of hate come from?

It comes from the right wing, that's where -- in the form of the Mainstream Media, and this isn't the first time people who thought they were good Democrats got tricked into doing the work of the conservative Republicans.

Consider this from BartCop, who so far as I know, has never been wrong on a political issue since (at least) 1997.

From today's Bartcop./com

"In the 2000 election, our whore media demonized Gore and praised Bush.
They painted Gore as a helpless serial liar, and he was unstable if serial liar's not enough.
We didn't like it when the whore media made our decisions for us.

In the 2004 primaries, remember what our whore media did to Howard Dean?
Our whore media demonized Dean, saying he was unstable, and quite possibly wild enough
to eat a young child. Remember how they played his scream and laughed at him?
We didn't like it when the whore media made our decisions for us.

In the 2004 general election, remember what our whore media did to John Kerry?
They painted Kerry as a demented liar who claimed he went into battle in Vietnam,
while praising Bush's brave service to our country in the Air National Guard.
We didn't like it when the whore media made our decisions for us.

Now it's 2008, and once again, our whore media is up to their same,old tricks.
They have demonized our front-runner and elevated and praised Obama.

Why am I the only one who sees what they're doing?
The whore media is owned by super-rich Republican bastards.

They demonized Gore, Dean and Kerry, then praised Obama
to get Hillary out of the race - and we let them do that?

We stood and applauded while they fabricated horseshit racism charges
against the best friends Black people ever had in the White House.

Soon they're going to demonize Obama and praise McCain
and we'll be shocked - because we're Democrats.

Why am I the only one who sees what they're doing?

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:42 PM
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1. Bartcop is an idiot
Edited on Fri May-09-08 07:44 PM by IWantAnyDem
The media propped up Clinton from the day she announced until the day after Iowa. They've propped her up since there was no chance of her winning.

But Bart has never been known for his cognitive skills. He only sees what he wants to see.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:46 PM
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6. Your open minded two cents worth is overwhelming
its part of the Unity Cults charm.

Don't fret, I'm a democrat, not a cultist, despite you and your kinds greatest efforts I will be there for OUR candidate in the fall.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:48 PM
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8. Fallacy ad hominem
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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:39 PM
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48. Hey BOSSHOG. Let me tell you what Bartcop did one time.
He took a random photo of some soldiers serving (in what appeared to be Iraq) and shopped it to call them "murderers" and "rapists." He had no idea who those soldiers were in this photo or if there was any chance that their family members might see the photo. Someone even posted it here with a link back to his blog (and sadly, the majority of the replies were praising it - although there weren't that many). How is that any better than the horrible people who put purple bandaids on to bash Kerry? My husband recently retired from the military and he served in Iraq. That could have easily been a photo of him.

Sorry, Bartcop is an idiot.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:51 PM
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11. You are right.
Bartcop is a big Clinton supporter - and not in a good way. Belated Welcome to DU, IWantAnyDem!
:hi:
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:25 PM
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25. agree...
used to love Bartcop, but just like the Clintons, he has become sadly disappointing. His blind support for Hillary is just that selectively blind. All his writings on the war and tutu Democrats --including Kerry and Edwards -- yet somehow in his eyes Hillary, the aye voter on IWR and the Patriot Act, can do no wrong.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:28 PM
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39. Yes, he is such a lush that he suffers from wet brain
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:32 PM
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42. Excellent points per Bartcop. check www.attacktimeline.com for yourself
See who's run a Karl Rovian type of campaign. I'll never vote for this straw man-obama. Hillary gets my writein....if she's not the official candidate.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:33 PM
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44. The corporate media sat on the Wright videos for how long?
Edited on Fri May-09-08 10:34 PM by depakid
and treated Obama with kid gloves- with more positive press that ANY candidate for how long?

http://www.journalism.org/node/9828

I realize that learning how to think critically and analyze objectively will be difficult after 7 years of Republican outrages (and Democratic complicity) -but if folks want a fighting chance to win in November, they'd better get started learning (or re-learning) how its done....
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:44 PM
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2. Funny this is how the repukes defended bush- they labeled all of bush's critics as "bush haters"
it's a dishonest tactic that is also quite shameful.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:45 PM
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3. Bartcop might be the most colorful crayon in the box, but he's not the brightest. n/t
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:48 PM
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9. My sentiments exactly!
:rofl:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:28 PM
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40. Well put. Respect him many times, but on this one, he's wrong.
:shrug:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:45 PM
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4. Oh lunchmeat.
The right wing has been salivating at the prospect of a fight against Clinton for years now. They're all loaded up and ready to shoot. Obama's nomination screws up all their plans, and that makes them mad.

The media are interested in keeping the fight going as long as possible. It's the ratings.

These lines definitely cross, of course. And it's perhaps more than just coincidence that they've all been doing all they can to further Clinton remaining in the race.
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:36 PM
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45. Wrong....Hillary Clinton would be the stronger candidate. Obama is a wimp
a 'no resume'featherweight.....a packaged product from the king makers. Shme to watch the sheeple following him over a cliff into chaos and confusion.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:46 AM
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49. She cannot win. Face it. She's not going to be the nominee, to begin with
and she would have started with nearly half the country dead set against her.

We've seen what happens in 51-49 fights with the GOP machine. Wasn't going to happen.

With her behavior during this campaign turning off a significant portion of people who should have been her base, she's in even worse shape.

Obama's resume is not featherweight - unless you think working in the community counts for nothing. She was first lady - that's what she's counting on for a lot of her "resume". Not a particularly impressive achievement, IMO.

She's been an ok senator for a few years longer than he has.

John McCain has been a senator much, much longer than either of them. Do you prefer his "heavyweight" resume? Should that put him in the WH?

I think not.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:45 PM
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5. That's right, blame everyone but yourself.
The Clintons have no one to blame but themselves. The sooner people realize that, the sooner the healing can begin.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:47 PM
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7. no. they have been trying to push hillary since before 2004. and we arent buying
it....


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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:50 PM
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10. Oh, well. If the whore media was able to defeat her in the primary
the whore media would have been able to defeat her in the general.

What I wonder is what the whore media was doing when it talked about nothing but Reverend Wright for a month.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:52 PM
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12. Ignore the facile name calling here. You are exactly right. The sexism and
outright misogyny I've seen on DU and elsewhere in the so-called progressive blogisphere makes freeperville pale in comparison.

I'm sickened by it and while I would never vote for McCain I'm so repelled by these bizarre and manic "bot's of Obama I just don't think I could ever vote for him.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:03 PM
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17. So you're going to let what some rabid supporter said on in the internet prevent .....
you from voting for Obama? I've seen some pretty nasty things said about Obama from Hillary supporters, would that prevent you from voting for her?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:59 PM
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31. so, don't vote. your unwillingness to look at the shit storm by
the hill bots make you a partisan. who cares if you vote or not. don't.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:52 PM
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13. "Why am I the only one who sees what they're doing?"
Um, because he's off his meds? :shrug:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:55 PM
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14. For almost a year
the name Clinton was synonymous with the word inevitable.
Ms. Clinton brought her own negatives with her.
She then fought a typical Republican campaign.

So what if they demonize Obama?

They are whores. They are the mouthbreathers in the body politic.

This is the election year the wide stance party made, and their embedded enablers. It is going to eat them alive with fava beans and vinaigrette.

John McCain is going to make the Repugs look enviously at George McGovern. I mean at least we got a good elder statesman out of the disaster.

The cost will be that Obama will have to embrace the horror, and start getting ready to be F.D.R. on day one. It is more than he thinks is doable now, but he will find that in 2009, it is not just possible to provide universal healthcare, but that it may be near impossible to hold on to the private healthcare system.

We are in the Long Emergency. It is no longer deniable, and the old rules no longer apply. Progress is no longer suburbias ten miles farther out, and a thousand more square feet of living space on another 5 acres of lot.

Progress is what keeps society together through the storm.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:57 PM
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15. But if we look just a bit deeper at the case of Gore - we see a Dem behind that too
"There are those urging Bill Bradley to discontinue his campaign against Al Gore in the name of salvaging Democratic unity. But it appears that Bradley has instead decided to fight on full throttle, putting Gore's trustworthiness on trial. And that's good news for our democracy.

"How can the people trust a candidate," Bradley asked in New York the day after the New Hampshire primary, "who doesn't respect them enough to tell them the truth in the campaign?"

Bradley has warned voters to watch for Gore's "tricky" way with words, going as far as to compare him with Richard Nixon: "the kind of politician who'd chop down a tree, then stand on the stump and give a speech about conservation."

http://ariannaonline.huffingtonpost.com/columns/column.php?id=228

Now, they've run the same sly trick on Clinton - questioning her honesty and integrity at every turn, until it became the Obamas mantra: Clinton is a liar. Useful tools.

So BartCop asks:"Why am I the only one who sees what they're doing?" You're not the only one - many like me, saw through it all the while.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:03 PM
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19. actually snipergate was her own doing and real
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:15 PM
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22. But the Obama campaign was running this line on Clinton
long before "snipergate." It's just a campaign tactic - the very lowest.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:28 PM
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26. link please
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:29 PM
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33. It's always been about attacking Clinton's honesty and integrity - slickly done
“People have heard a lot of things that just aren’t true from the mouth of the First Lady, from the mouth of the former president, from the mouth of the campaign," said Robert Gibbs, Obama’s communications director."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8002.html

Q. Has she been truthful to voters about what she would do as president?

A. “No.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/27/us/politics/28q-aobama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

top Obama strategist David Axelrod said: "We're going to spell out positions on issues and demand others do as well. One of the things that people are looking for is someone . . . who will be forthright with them and not pass everything through a political calculator.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-debate1nov01,1,7488705.story

"You all know the okey-doke — when somebody is trying to bamboozle you, when they are trying to hoodwink you."

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080311/1a_bottomstrip11_dom.art.htm

Obama responded: "Hillary's idea is that we should force everyone to buy insurance. But this is yet another issue where she is not being straight with the American people because she refuses to tell us how much she would fine people if they couldn't afford insurance."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/25/AR2007112501030.html

http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-memo-on-clinton-misleading-voters/


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:02 PM
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16. Bartcop? The pink tutu guy?
Edited on Fri May-09-08 08:03 PM by ProSense
He's an idiot!

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:06 PM
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20. Bartcop objectifies women
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:03 PM
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18. Maybe if Clinton's chief strategists knew the rules she'd have done better
Expecting Hillary to wrap up the nomination early because she was going to take all 370 of California's delegates was the worst campaign blunder since Dukakis rode around in that tank.

Blaming the media now seems just a tad desperate.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:12 PM
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21. I suppose
that's why they've done everything to get her elected but stage a coup for her? I suppose that's why they have been harping on Rev. Wright and flag pins, and "bittergate" and all those other bogus anti-Obama faux-scandals for months? And on what planet is Hillary the front-runner?

This guy is either a moron, or blinded by his devotion to Her Hillaryness.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:16 PM
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23. No, he isn't the only one who sees it. It's been obvious for months.
They wanted Edwards out of the race, so they ignored him. (They did the same thing in 2004, to hurt his chances. And as Bartcop said, they demonized Dean.)

They built up Obama as "the rock star" -- God, I must've heard that said about him at least hundreds of times on cable news and network news shows. OTOH, they went after Hillary constantly.

And I expect them to now turn on Obama and start praising McCain.

Hillary has a lot more experience with them than Obama does. I believe she could have handled this better.

I'm still hoping she'll be on the ticket. He's going to need all the help he can get from her.
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40ozDonkey Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:19 PM
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24. Oh good, more crap from the Democratic version of 28%ers.
I'm so glad we dodged this bullet and put the cult of personality types where they belong.

In the 2004 primaries, remember what our whore media did to Howard Dean?
Our whore media demonized Dean, saying he was unstable, and quite possibly wild enough
to eat a young child. Remember how they played his scream and laughed at him?
We didn't like it when the whore media made our decisions for us.


You liked it when the DLC did it though: http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251690&kaid=1 "What activists like Dean call the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party is an aberration; the McGovern-Mondale wing, defined principally by weakness abroad and elitist, interest-group liberalism at home," From and Reed wrote in a fiery memo titled "The Real Soul of the Democratic Party" on May 15, 2003. What have Hillary fans done to discredit the DLC for leading the whore media attack? Oh, right, nothing. They rewarded them.

Now it's 2008, and once again, our whore media is up to their same,old tricks.
They have demonized our front-runner and elevated and praised Obama.
Why am I the only one who sees what they're doing?
The whore media is owned by super-rich Republican bastards.


Yeah, she should make those Republican bastards pay by giving air time to Mellon-Scaife and ... Rupert... Murdoch. <sigh>

We stood and applauded while they fabricated horseshit racism charges
against the best friends Black people ever had in the White House.


Why did Hillary apologize for Ferraro's remarks? Because they were too awesome and she was sorry she didn't think of saying it first? :eyes:

Why am I the only one who sees what they're doing?
Not sure, I'm guessing it's because Bartcop's off his fucking meds and somebody left the laptop out?
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:31 PM
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27. :sigh: I was hoping the OP was going to give me a reason to
put Bartblog back on my RSS. Instead, it's only reinforced my decision to remove it. :(
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:35 PM
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28. Bart is correct
and once they elevate Obama, they will tear him down in the GE. Pretty predictable.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:38 PM
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29. "the best friends Black people ever had in the White House"
Not exactly subtle, but very incorrect. Think Lyndon Johnson. Think Abraham Lincoln.

I used to enjoy a good Bartcop read every now and then, but I noticed early on in this primary season that he has some of his own demons to tend to. One is ego, and another is racial ignorance.

Maybe he's been hitting the chinaco a bit too hard lately.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:51 PM
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30. Clinton had this thing in the bag
Money up the wazoo

A veteran campaign organizatrion

Connections with the Hollywood elite.

Name recognition.


And still managed to blow it all to lose to a newbie who nobody knew from fucking Adam before the beginning of the campaign. She ran a horrible campaign and lost the aura of inevitablility the whore media had bestowed on her. Why? She is not a likeable person. And despite what anybody says, she is not a "fighter".

In Mr Cop's terms she's the pinkest of the pink tutu Dems, having voted for the Iraq war and refused to back away from it because she is still afraid of being labeled "weak on terror". Worst of all she is not even true to her own beliefs - she was a defender of the black panthers and the radical antiwar movement back in the day.

Hillary Clinton is a fake - fake fighter, fake conservative, fake racist, fake everything. And it shows. And most people can spot a fake. And Bartcop has become a sad partisan instead of a progressive observer.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:49 AM
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51. Then she refused to sell out
to Wall Street and the private insurance industry. Obama, ever the eager bag-man, took the bait.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:00 PM
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32. TYPO:
"They have demonized our front-runner and elevated and praised Obama."
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:10 PM
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34. only an idiot would blame the media for what hillary did to herself.
Edited on Fri May-09-08 10:11 PM by bowens43
She has evolved into nothing more then a mirror image of bush. She and W are two ends of the same worm. She's a deceitful, lying, race baiter.

It's tiume for hillary to Sit down STFU.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:14 PM
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35. Muslim, Osama, Madrassa, Wright, Hates Babies, bad bowler
yeah Obama is just getting his ass kissed by the media :eyes: Talk about thick headed. Try checking out hillaryis44 to see what freeperville looks like..
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:18 PM
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36. consider the source of hate on this site
It comes from the same people who did NOT fall for the smears against Gore, the people who did NOT fall for the smears against Dean, and who did NOT fall for the smears against Kerry. Funny how this time we would fall for propaganda from the M$M.

Sorry, but that does not add up. Is the media really enouraging people to hate Hillary as a Republican-Lite?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:20 PM
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37. Me thinks I need to start reading Bartcop more.
That was excellent.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:26 PM
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38. second link from bartcop today
funny it does`t get any better the second time around...
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:32 PM
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41. who gives a shit what fartcop has to say?
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:38 PM
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47. cute but not a genuine response of course n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:48 AM
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50. Careful
you're showing your true colors.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:33 PM
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43. Why aren't the voters as smart as you and this Bartcop genius?
:puke:

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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 10:37 PM
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46. some have been TRYING to tell people this for a loooong time
but very very few have listened.


and its far too late now.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:57 AM
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53. Oh, bullshit.
If we're too fucking stupid to figure out fact from fiction, we shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:55 AM
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52. Rightwing? Some of it for sure. A lot of it is pure rage and frustration.
There is no question that we have been infiltrated by knuckledragging assholes. They have disrupted constantly.

But that isn't me, and I'm plenty pissed off at the Clinton campaign and all their minions. The level of unforgivable shit that has been dished out toward Obama for months has been all that we can stand. And, now that she cannot possibly win except by changing the rules, somebody expects us to simply wring our hands and cluck our tongues. Fuck that.
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