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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:43 PM
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After today I don't see how anyone could be delusional enough to still think Hillary has a chance
She now needs almost 85% of remaining superdelegates. It's not going to happen. Anyone who passed middle school math should be able to see that this race is OVER.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:47 PM
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1. Her only path to victory, I think,..
is to hope that Obama and his campaign somehow, someway, implodes.
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coyotespaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:37 AM
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13. or, much more likely
that an asteroid falls from the sky and lands on him.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:48 AM
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19. lol.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:48 PM
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2. The fact either fit their point of view, or the facts are wrong.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:56 PM
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3. I could care less what % you post. I am waiting for the other shoe
to drop on this arrogant man. It will drop and there is a stirring in the wind it will next week and folks it will not be pretty......but then again you all wanted to take obama at face value and not look into his background.

Maybe when this happens SOME of you obama folk will be glad that HRC stayed in this campaign so that we would have a candidate that will win in November.

Lets just say that HRC had dropped out in March. Well there was the wright mess that nearly toppled this man, but what if that other shoe drops and it is something the whoremedia cannot keep him propped up, then what will you all do? We again would be beholding to a wounded nominee......
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:59 PM
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5. You havn't been right about anything else this cycle...
I doubt you're going to start showing some real insight now.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:37 AM
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14. May I buy you a drink?
Seriously. And thank you!!!

:toast: :toast: :toast:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:47 AM
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18. Sure thing Jen
I like Captain Morgan. :toast:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 01:00 AM
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21. With Sprite, or Coke?
Coke is more traditional, but Sprite makes it taste like a drunky cream soda. ;-)

Pouring!!!!! :spray:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 01:04 AM
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23. Ginger Ale
Go figure, but it tastes like butterscotch.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:34 AM
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10. Seriously, have you EVER been right?!?
sorry, just wondering cuz when i check things dont add up with you, like ever.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:36 AM
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12. In that ridiculous, hypothetical eventuality...
... I would hope the party turns to John Edwards. At least he's not engaged in shameless race-baiting.

Careful what you wish for. And sorry it bothers you so much that Obama seems to have weathered the Kitchen Sink quite teflon-like.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:45 AM
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17. Propped up??
They tried to kneecap him at every turn with it. Notice the media blackout on Rev.Wright after it didn't freakin' work. That doesn't mean they didn't try like hell. They played the Rev.'s greatest hits, his biography, all Rev.Wright the entire weekend before Tuesday's election. Propped up my foot.

And the obvious answer to the other point you're trying to make, they don't completely withdraw, but merely suspend their campaigns. You know, kind of like Edwards has done. If you want to be technical about it, he could still potentially be the nominee if both Obama and Hillary implode. And they both have an equal chance of that happening.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 01:07 AM
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24. Meds, Benny, Meds!!!! (Sorry I'm late...)
Come on, Benny. Waiting for a man to get ambushed and lose a nomination THAT way shows almost NO faith in your candidate.

You can do better.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 03:35 AM
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28. Can you offer any proof of this dropping shoe coming in the oh-so-near future
or should I just assume you're talking out of your ass as usual?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 05:19 AM
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30. If his survival is due to media "prop up", I think we're okay.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:26 AM
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33. I'm sure that if you knew of any such dirt, you would be sharing it with us.
Revenge fantasies, though, are unbecoming.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:57 PM
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4. If Obama has it all locked up, what is the harm in letting our own process play out?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 11:59 PM
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6. Because Hillary has decided to continue to attack the nominee and use race as a wedge
I would have no issue at this point if she was taking the high road.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:35 AM
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11. +1
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:00 AM
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7. Because Obama needs to focus on McCain
Not Mrs. Irrelevent
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:07 AM
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8. Nothing
if she puts scorched earth tactics aside. Lately, it appears she has bought more flame throwers. I don;t have a problem if she wants to run on issues. Currently she is running on "I and only I can win because Obama is <insert bizarro issue de jour here>.

When push comes to shove, the biggest problem with her campaign coined strategy of "kitchen sink", is that when everything is done, there are a lot of dirty dishes and no place to wash them.

Frankly, my idea of being a fighter isn't spraying the air with machine gun fire in the hopes of hitting something.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:23 AM
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9. I don't think she's waging a "kitchen sink" campaign.
If she is, then she's definitely got an ace to play.

If she isn't, I'd still bet she has an ace to play.

Whatever, I think a big problem is that many Obama supporters whine so loudly whenever she speaks of him, and twists her words in bizarre ways, such that the hourly outrage from the Obama side has taken on a comical feel. I keep waiting to read that she eats kittens for breakfast.

I don't think the Obama camp has any room to complain, tho, much less whine incessantly, seeing as how he and his surrogates painted the Clintons racist leading up to the SC primary.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:39 AM
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15. An ace to play?
I think maybe you meant "faucet." Or "washer." Or maybe even "trap."

I'd say "stainless steel bowl" but those really hurt when they hit you upside the head. }(
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:41 AM
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16. Perhaps, just perhaps...
The Obama campaign got wind early on that the Clinton campaign were telling everyone they could that Barack Obama couldn't win SOLELY BECAUSE HE'S BLACK.

That might have been the point in which people started thinking they were racists. How dare they, huh?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:55 AM
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20. I'm talking about the "fairy tale" debacle.
Bill was clearly taking about Obama's supposed strong and lasting opposition to the Iraq war, and that there are quotes from Obama that back this up. It was played up like Bill had said Obama's campaign was a fairy tale.


Please.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 01:02 AM
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22. And I'm talking about what the Clinton campaign has been saying to SDs all along.
Which is Barack Obama cannot win because he's black.

Do you really think they've just started saying this?

They started as soon as he won Iowa. And that is why so many high level Obama supporters have been infuriated. They were making their racist case from the get-go.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 02:37 AM
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27. No you please Skip Intro after her latest comments there is alot of problems.
Everyone has fucked up in this campaign. How about we just leave it at that and move the fuck on!
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:24 AM
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34. Here campaign defined her tactics that way with those exact words
It started in WI, and I haven;t seen it stop, particularly.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 02:25 AM
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25. that makes sense
and is (like the oatmeal guy says) the 'right thing to do'
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 05:16 AM
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29. Because she's opting to take the low road.
Actually, she's taking the road lower than that.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 02:35 AM
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26. It is over but there are still contests left to go.
We need to keep our efforts strong till atleast the 20th which is JUST 10 days away!

So why cares what they think? We can spend the time better by phonebanking!

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/phonebankmap/
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:24 AM
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31. A chance at what, exactly?
There are more reasons for her to stay in the race than winning the nomination. She can try to repay the massive debt she's accrued, and she can still play for the veep slot or for a Cabinet post.

And she can always hope that some scandal will turn Obama radioactive. Being a candidate is a political tool; it's capital that she can spend in many ways.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 07:25 AM
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32. Maybe because voters prefer her over Obama & McCain?
Might have something to do with it.
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