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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:30 PM
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Obama cant just sit and negotiate with Iran's president
Edited on Sat May-10-08 09:31 PM by thewiseguy
Iran and United States have not had diplomatic relations for over 20 years now. Can anyone please tell me how a presidential level talk is going to take place with the leaders of Iranian regime? Did any of you honestly believe Obama was going to sit down with AhmadiNejad and negotiate?

For several years now United States has refused to negotiate with Iran unless they ceased enriching Uranium. So that was our condition and obviously Iran never accepted it and therefore negotiations never took place and perhaps the conflict escalated.

Obama has proposed that such an approach to Iran's problem is not helpful. He said we should negotiate with the government of Iran without setting conditions as the Bush administration did.

Now how was that translated to a one on one talk between AhmadiNejad and Obama, it beats me! :shrug:

For a presidential level talk to be held many things needs to take place. For starters the foreign secretaries of two states might want to talk first. The UN envoys for the two states might want to sit and talk. We might want to open up an embassy in Iran? Lift sanctions on Iran?

My point is to try to smear Obama and rather make a simple but false assumption that would be easy to sell to the voters is what I expect the brainless rethugs to do. :hi:

With that said I firmly believe that the Iranian regime would be open to diplomacy with United States. As they have had talks with us on the security matters in Iraq on multiple occasions.

GOBAMA! :bounce:
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:32 PM
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1. People are not going to read all the way to the end
Just so you know.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:32 PM
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2. You say I should...
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:36 PM
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4. I did.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:36 PM
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3. If the president of the U.S. wanted to talk to the president of Iran
It would happen; it's that simple. All the forces necessary to make it happen would be focused and brought to bear to make it happen.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:39 PM
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8. The Iranians must be willing too for such a high level talk
Given the structure of the Iranian government and how things tend to progress slowly there, lower level talks have to be the top priority of the Obama administration.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:37 PM
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5. Just another reason (out of 1000s) that Obama will be a great President!
Nice post - and I think the simple answer is, "How has doing things the old way worked for us so far? Exactly.!"
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:37 PM
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6. Question: has refusing to talk with enemies ever prevented a stupid war?
Communication is only a bad thing if you are a Repuke thug or a Obama basher.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:37 PM
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7. There are many ways to go about it.
The point is that the Bush administration has deliberately avoided talking because they want war.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:41 PM
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9. Here's a NY TImes article from last year on Obama's stated views on this
Edited on Sat May-10-08 09:42 PM by gristy
Obama Envisions New Iran Approach
By MICHAEL R. GORDON and JEFF ZELENY
Published: November 2, 2007

CHICAGO, Oct. 31 — Senator Barack Obama says he would “engage in aggressive personal diplomacy” with Iran if elected president and would offer economic inducements and a possible promise not to seek “regime change” if Iran stopped meddling in Iraq and cooperated on terrorism and nuclear issues.

In an hourlong interview on Wednesday, Mr. Obama made clear that forging a new relationship with Iran would be a major element of a broad effort to stabilize Iraq as he executed a speedy timetable for the withdrawal of American combat troops.

Mr. Obama said that Iran had been “acting irresponsibly” by supporting Shiite militant groups in Iraq. He also emphasized that Iran’s suspected nuclear weapons program and its support for “terrorist activities” were serious concerns.

But he asserted that Iran’s support for militant groups in Iraq reflected its anxiety over the Bush administration’s policies in the region, including talk of a possible American military strike on Iranian nuclear installations.

Making clear that he planned to talk to Iran without preconditions, Mr. Obama emphasized further that “changes in behavior” by Iran could possibly be rewarded with membership in the World Trade Organization, other economic benefits and security guarantees.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/us/politics/02obama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:47 PM
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10. There are a couple of conditions set by Obama in your article
But in return we would not just negotiate with them but make some promises in return.

For example I dont see why Iranians would continue to meddle in Iraq if we promised them not to seek "regime change".
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 09:49 PM
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11. well if its on the internets, it must be true
Edited on Sat May-10-08 09:49 PM by Capn Sunshine
I guess there's just no way it could ever happen
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