Why Obama is skipping WV and getting away with it....

[annie1]

http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/05/09/wva.aspx

"....Appearing on ABC's Nightline back in November 2007, Obama slipped into Bob Dole mode for this slightly overconfident assessment of his electoral chances: "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there." The Mountain State seems unlikely to confirm his analysis--to put it mildly...."


Obama to wv: I won't win, so you don't matter.

Yet in areas where african americans who vote for bo at 90+% make up more than 40% of the dem voting bloc, so hillary didn't have a chance, she still made an effort. I know most of you hate Sen. Clinton, but at least she visited and spent time in states she knew she didn't have a chance in hell in.

[DemsUnited]

1. From the very same newsweek article cited in the OP

"Better to keep expectations low (much like Clinton did when she skipped Nebraska, Washington and Louisiana in February)."

So it appears that Clinton used the same strategy when it suited her...

[greguganus]

12. Hillbots love to pick and choose bits from articles. Good catch. n/t

[dsc]

21. except she didn't skip louisiana

nor washington. She campaigned in both as did Bill. She may have skipped Nebraska, but I don't know for sure and given the two big, fat ass lies why should I give the author credit here.

[DemsUnited]

27. Sounds as if the author of the newsweek piece stretches truth a bit.

In fact, Obama will spend Monday in WV, so skipping the state is not quite accurate for him either.

[tabasco]

56. And Obama has campaigned in WV.

Caught bullshitting again, bucko!

http://www.wvva.com/News/index.php?ID=21836

[dsc]

64. actually I never said he didn't

in point of fact I took the author of that article to task for his or her other lies. That would mean I didn't tend to believe the author.

[tabasco]

66. But you said he "skipped" WV and that Hillary did not "skip" Louisiana

because she had visited there.

Hint: When you're in a hole, stop digging.

You got called on your bullshit and it's time to give up.

[dsc]

67. These are the mother fucking words I typed

except she didn't skip louisiana
nor washington. She campaigned in both as did Bill. She may have skipped Nebraska, but I don't know for sure and given the two big, fat ass lies why should I give the author credit here.

Show me where, in those words, appear Obama skipped WV. You owe me a big ass apology. I never said the words, not here, not in another thread, nowhere. The words you are looking for are "I am sorry I lied about what you said."

[hokies4ever]

31. Great job!

Nice to catch the hypocrisy of some Hillary supporters. :rofl:

[Forkboy]

42. This thread should have ended after this post.

:D

[burythehatchet]

48. thank you for applying a layer of shellack to little annie's fannie.

[Bensthename]

2. bs, he has won.. He is now on a national campaign.. While Clinton just wants attention..

The race is over. He is back to 50 state campaigns. And she did not focus on caucus states like Obama did. Thus the reason she is now a loser..

[my3boyz]

16. I heard he is going to start campaigning in battleground states THIS WEEK! nt

[LizW]

39. Florida? That should be good. n/t

[boppers]

72. Is florida expected to be batteleground this year?

I was under the impression that it was only Hillary's, or McCain's, so the battle had moved on. Have the numbers been changing to where it's worth going back to?

[virtualobserver]

3. it is always about race for hillary supporters

[annie1]

6. right, race has nothing to do with his win in NC. how silly of me.

[virtualobserver]

9. we are all just people and this obsession with voting blocs is divisive

[annie1]

10. then let's pretend it doesn't exist. ok.

[virtualobserver]

why does it matter how a person of a particular "race" votes?

[bowens43]

4. surprise , surprise. another cynical post from a hillary support

Obama of course did not say or inply that that the people of West Virgina do not matter. But being a Hillary supporter, you of course will spin and distort and lie to support your candidate.

[annie1]

7. he's skipping the state.

[VolcanoJen]

15. He's NOT skipping the state.

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- Senator Barack Obama will be back in West Virginia Monday to campaign ahead of Tuesday's Presidential Primary.

Obama will attend a rally at the Charleston Civic Center.

Doors will open at 10:30 a.m., and the rally will get underway at 12:15 p.m.

The campaign says the event is open to the public, but seating will be limited. Tickets are required. You can pick up free tickets beginning Sunday at three locations: Obama for America Charleston HQ, 1021 Quarrier Street; 2nd Avenue Community Center, 1411 2nd Ave., Charleston; and Obama for America South Charleston Office, 325 6th Ave. SW. Tickets are available at all three locations Sunday from 9 a.m. - 9 p.m.

For more information, you can call the Charleston HQ at 304-346-2616

[Window]

30. He has eight campaign offices and he will be there Monday.

Let him run his campaign the way he wants. It's worked for him very well so far.

[high density]

74. What does it matter to you, even if what you're saying is true? (Which it isn't)

It's a political contest. The states that are obvious wins or obvious losses don't get a lot of attention. This is nothing new, and the Obama campaign has said NOTHING about WV "doesn't matter." In fact what has happened is that the Clinton campaign is the one that took a dump on the voters of WV with their own metrics of saying big blue states with loads of electoral votes are the only ones that matter.

[RC]

5. When one is losing and deep in debt, one can get desperate and do a lot of things.

[VolcanoJen]

8. Obama's heading to West Virginia on Monday.

Guess you didn't know that?

[annie1]

11. good, glad to hear it

[MH1]

19. perhaps you should delete your op then?

Since the premise has been shown to be untrue?

[annie1]

35. newsweek wrote the article, not me.

[chascarrillo]

44. Well, then, that completely absolves you from blame, now, doesn't it?

pfft

[Name removed]

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[annie1]

57. your mother must be so proud.

[40ozDonkey]

13. "I know you hate Hillary, but..."

I mean, I've gotten everything wrong about you and your motivations for so long that it's almost funny, but let me give it one more shot and tell you Obama supporters your deepest emotions so I can devalue you as a person before you even begin to disagree.

I'm starting to see the unity Hillary supporters are clamoring for, the unity of their fist to my face. Yay!

[VolcanoJen]

14. Obama To Campaign In Charleston, West Virginia on Monday

This thread is now officially moot. :-)

http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/18830534.html

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- Senator Barack Obama will be back in West Virginia Monday to campaign ahead of Tuesday's Presidential Primary.

Obama will attend a rally at the Charleston Civic Center.

Doors will open at 10:30 a.m., and the rally will get underway at 12:15 p.m.

The campaign says the event is open to the public, but seating will be limited. Tickets are required. You can pick up free tickets beginning Sunday at three locations: Obama for America Charleston HQ, 1021 Quarrier Street; 2nd Avenue Community Center, 1411 2nd Ave., Charleston; and Obama for America South Charleston Office, 325 6th Ave. SW. Tickets are available at all three locations Sunday from 9 a.m. - 9 p.m.

For more information, you can call the Charleston HQ at 304-346-2616

[rzemanfl]

17. Whatever the size of the venue, he will fill it. eom

[rocktivity]

60. Charleston Civic Center capacity: theater 738, main auditorium 3,483

Throw in a video hookup between the rooms, and you clear 4 grand!

:headbang:
rocknation

[rocktivity]

54. FAIL!!!!

:rofl:
rocknation

[babylonsister]

18. annie1, are you from WV? Aren't you pissed or annoyed that your gal

pretty much painted all of the residents in these two states as less educated, bigoted folks, who comprise her base?

I would be. Her brush was broad.

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. Ain't gonna touch that last sentence......

Nope, not me.

:rofl:

[burythehatchet]

51. well, lil annie IS part of her base - uneducated bigots who couldn't be

honest to save their lives.

[babylonsister]

59. I can't fathom why people from WV and KY aren't annoyed at

the way the constituents have been 'painted', unless the foo shits.

[Double T]

20. GREAT POINT!!!

HRC is for ALL the people, NOT just her loyalists. BO disenfranchises voters AND does the same thing with HIS health care plan. Elitist? ABSOLUTELY!!!!

[Window]

32. Bullshit. And his health care plan will have to be 'tweaked' just like Hillary's.

[TahitiNut]

38. How's the weather in CloudCuckooLand?

Here in Michigan, it's overcast and the wind keeps shifting according to where Hillary's shooting off her mouth. When the rules suited her plans, she 'bigfooted' the DNC and helped make sure Michigan voters didn't get a dime in campaign money or a minute of her time. Now she's whining. But NOT about fucking over the voters and our state economy!! She's whining about HER OWN problems - whining about putting Humpty Dumpty together after she's fed on the omelet.

[rucky]

61. Lightning Seeds?

damn you're obscure.

:thumbsup:

[TahitiNut]

65. It's far older than a pop album.

It's from Aristophanes' "The Birds" (at least 400 BCE) and is a metaphor for self-delusional loss of contact with reality. I'm a victim of a Liberal Arts education. (Most folks forget that Math is a Liberal Arts major.)

[ecdab]

23. You may want to watch the video from nightline

it actually is a fairly nice clip - and he certainly wasn't slipping into Bob Dole mode.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Story?id=3916663&page=1

That will take you to the nightline transcript, if you scroll all the way to the bottom, under more coverage - you can click on WATCH: Obama Country.

Once you do, you will understand how specious a thread you have started.

[NJmaverick]

24. Someone should write a book- 1001 excuses for not supporting Obama

It would save some of these DUers a lot of time and effort dreaming up these lame excuses.

[juno jones]

53. It'd be more like

'Obama Hating For Dummies' and would have lots of colorful easily understood illustrations. They could bundle it with 'My Pet Goat'.

[rug]

25. His dilemma is if he campaigns strongly there and loses by 30% it's a clear repudiation.

If he doesn't campaign, he's calling it a racist state.

[babylonsister]

33. No dilemma. She'll win, it's a done deal, but so what? If her win

gives her the props to drop out, I'm okay with that.

[EFerrari]

71. LOL

[lojasmo]

26. Since this thread is predicated upon a lie....

Well, you know.

[Kittycat]

28. Obama will be there Tomorrow - get your facts straight

[madrchsod]

47. opps ... did`t read your post ..we will see if either say anything about

what has happened to their mountains....

[MindMatter]

29. Another moran for my ignore collection

[burythehatchet]

50. I find it more fulfilling to smack their shit around a little first before flushing them

down the toilet.

[mystieus]

34. ABC is stupid, lol . Even I can read Obama's schedule. He's going there Monday

[DevonRex]

36. African Americans, African Americans, African Americans, African

Americans. Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

It's about nothing but race to you and apparently to Hillary. Shameful.

[book_worm]

37. He will be campaigning in WVA on Monday and has a field staff

He's doing more in WVA than Hillary did in many states.

[MattNC]

40. He's made stops there

A couple of visits a few weeks before the PA primary and now the one coming up on Monday

[Secret_Society]

41. agreed

really getting tired of the double standard

[DogPoundPup]

43. Clinton "at least she visited and spent time."..But Obama didn't

make her get down in the mud and roll in it like the Clintons are doing...

So what purpose does it serve for Bill Clinton to barnstorm a state like West Virginia and tell rural voters that Obama and his "elitist political/media cabal allies" Bill: "Hillary is in this race because of people like you and places like this and no matter what they say," Clinton said. "And no matter how much fun they make of your support of her and the fact that working people all over America have stuck with her, she thinks you're as smart as they are. She thinks you've got as much right to have your say as anybody else. are mocking Appalachia?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/bill-clintons-m.html

Ginning up the resentments and the class divide (and maybe other divisions). ... His message to these voters: Obama and the media are laughing at you and think you're stupid!!!

[madrchsod]

45. Big Coal......he`s side stepping the issue in west virgina

and i bet hillary and bill has`t said nothing about big coal either..Big Coal sponsored the many of the democratic debates....it`s all about the benjamins.....




opps did`t read if he was coming ...i`m very interested if either candidate has anything to say about big coal and their destruction of the mountains and the people who live on them

[AllentownJake]

46. Fucking out right Lie

Did I see Hillary in Idaho, Kansas, New Mexico etc...I actually remember her people making fun of him for stopping in Idaho.

[Vinca]

52. Obama knows he's got the nomination and he knows Hillary

is favored to win in West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico. He could rain on her parade and put millions and millions of dollars into the campaign there and steal some of her glory, but he isn't. He wants her to go out on a high note and, on the other hand, sees no need to spend valuable campaign resources better used against McCain.

[BlooInBloo]

55. Poor racist-code-using Clinton supporters.

[zulchzulu]

58. Besides all the other crap, your assumption Obama doesn't have the "white vote" is wrong

Explain this...

And as others have explained, Obama will be in West Virginia on Monday.

[annie1]

63. i don't think he doesn't have the white vote. i know he does. i made that clear....

when i said hillary's argument that he doesn't is silly b/c he's won several predominately white states.

[malik flavors]

62. Obama will be in West Virginia tomorrow. That makes this thread pointless.

[Heather MC]

68. He will be in West VA on Monday, You can't compare him to the desperate traveling of a woman who...

is losing this campaign and her mind.
I think he is trying to be nice and let her have an easy win so she can end on a high note. Hillary supporters might want to be thankful that he is allowing her to have a state without a fight.



Oh and by the way he may not be their but the "O" Soldiers sure as hell are!!

[KSinTX]

69. He was in WV in March per Washington Post

Also to be there May 12

March 20, 2008
11 a.m., Speech in Charleston, WV.
Location: Geary Auditorium, Riggleman Hall, University of Charleston, Charleston, WV

4 p.m., Town Hall in Beckley, WV.
Location: Beckley-Raleigh County Convention Center Arena, Beckley, WV

[kentuck]

70. annie1, it's about expectations...

Some folks expect Obama to lose by 43% points. If he puts on a few commercials - which he is doing - and goes in there the last 2 or 3 days of the campaign and tries to cut the lead to 20 or less, it will be seen as some sort of "victory" because he will have cut her lead in half.. Politics.

edited for spelling :-)

[CreekDog]

73. as soon as skips as many states as Clinton did, let me know

:shrug:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

75. she skipped SC

only she sent Bill