How about you Quit trashing Obama and prove Clinton is even faintly Viable instead?

[symbolman]

Getting really tiresome, all these, "Obama Flip/Flopped/Lied/Did Drugs/Played Race Card/Was MEAN to Hillary!!" threads..

Instead, why don't you CONVINCE us that Clinton is a Shining Example of what a Prez should be?

All I see is that same tactic SHE Employs, TRASH Obama, and no need to prove your own candidate's Worth..

Show us! Prove it!

Cut the crap..

Of course the Requisite, "Well, HE Started it!!" should show up any time, eh?

Pump up your candidate instead of deflating Obama..

[BlooInBloo]

1. But she's not. Why would they even try?

[symbolman]

2. Oops

Got me there :)

They could Try!

[crankychatter]

3. a few weeks ago I ignored about 18 people - haven't seen a BS freepy thread since

you have my sympathy

[JVS]

4. That's too difficult a task

[ruggerson]

5. How about you quit trashing Clinton

realize that most here know Obama won, that she will pull out within the next few weeks, that the party will rally around the nominee and that all this teeth gnashing is an exercise in psychological dysfunction.

[Overseas]

8. If she could stop talking about the hard working white vote, that would help

I was foolishly hoping that the tiny 3% lead in Indiana, which she was supposed to win much more handily because she had proceeded with the ugly, anti-Democratic racial slurs foisted upon her by her "win at all costs" and "show em you're a fighter" campaign team, would bring her to her senses. I was hoping that even if she stayed in, she'd take the high road and battle Obama on which candidate could better slam the policies of the Bush-McLame administration. We voters are hungry for that. Three lousy percent for her ugly race-baiting and she didn't change course? The next day she's on TV talking about "hard working" white people? I wanted her to return to her former excellence and rise to the challenge and fill the few remaining weeks of her campaign with the best condemnations of this ugly administration that we could ever hope to hear. Show us THAT KIND OF FIGHTER. Not the slanderous slurry trash talker. We have had enough sleaze and fear mongering with Bush-Cheney-McLame.

[ruggerson]

10. Obama won

what is productive about further Clinton bashing? Does it make you feel good? Does it help our party? Does it help Obama?

[Overseas]

16. I am still stunned by the campaign tactics -- guess I was naive

I am still struggling to get over the horrible tactics her team has been using. I just didn't think someone I respected that much previously would stoop so low. Still in shock. And when I think perhaps now she will move onto the high road to rebuild our respect, another slur slips out. Not bashing more than still baffled.

[totodeinhere]

18. Yes, but what is productive about further Obama bashing?

There are several posters here who continue to start threads which bash Obama. What is their purpose in that? Do they want to help McCain or is it just sour grapes over the fact that Clinton has lost?

[MagickMuffin]

37. She didn't win IN by 3%, it was down to 1.1% after all the votes were counted

However, I knew that her "victory speech" would only last for the night. I knew she would be out trash talking Obama the very next day. And she proved me right.

So, sad. I can read her like a bad Stephen King book.

[Stinky The Clown]

6. What is the point of your post?

And don't play innocent. It was gloating flame bait.

But consider this.

You ever see an exterminator wipe out a heavy roach infestation? They all scurry around and die pretty quickly. Except for a few. Who continue to limp for minutes and minutes. but they die, too.

The number of people I have seen seriously flogging along saying she can win is less than there are straggler roaches.

Give it up and enjoy your victory.

[symbolman]

27. Innocent?

not "playing" anything.. Just tired of people trashing a person who brings back memories of Camelot, I was the only kid in 1st grade who voted in class for Kennedy, all the rest went for Nixxon, which I assume is who their parents voted for.. No one at my home pushed Kennedy, he just seemed Sane and Intelligent to me as a child -- of course they said HE would never win because we'd never had a Catholic (taking his orders straight from the Vatican they said) and most folks wouldn't vote for him..

But it was the natural progression of Irish from slavery to cop's to Judges to President.. I see the same progression with black folks ala Obama.. The kids in each generation take us closer to a more Ideal Society, most people don't care about race nearly as much as they used to..

And thats where the Old Style politicos don't get it.. Hillary might as well be from Mars with outdated thinking re:Race..

Thats one reason she's rebuked...especially by the youth entering the voting arena..watch MTV Reality Series, no one cares if their room mate is Black or White, all they care about is if they are Cool, or an asshole..

OLD racial divides are felt by the older ones, the over 65 people ARE from a time when a Black man was NOT Seen with a White woman, its ingrained in them..

So the change comes via the Youth, not stick in the mud Oldsters, which I think includes Clinton.. Saying that Whites will not vote for Obama seems perfectly rational to them, its what they SEE and HEAR..

But the rest of the world and younger people dong see it that way, hence the Divide, with both parties seeing things the way they appear to them..

I've got no guile here.. Just tired of the attacks on who apparently will be the Nom.. While the one who doesnt have a snowball's chance in Hell keeps at least LOOKING to younger thinking folks like they are pushing a Racial Division..

I dislike Clinton, but I don't think she Meant for her statement to come out the way it did.. Since everyone is polling about Race, Age,and Sex, she just quoted what her opinion was along with what her Internals told her..

I just think she's sloppy with the mouth, mixing metaphors, etc..

[Major Hogwash]

29. Did you read the reaction Europeans have had to Bubba's comments about Obama lately?

They are as shocked as the rest of us were that Bubba decided to make so many racist statements about Obama.

I guess he had a lot of us fooled.

[tekisui]

35. I will try to take your advice.

But, Hillary herself and her defenders make it hard to do. If she were leaving on a note of Democratic Unity, or even as an issue-focused Candidate, I could easily be gracious and accepting.

But, she is getting worse by the day, and the Defenders nearing unbearable. Especially the threats to vote for grampy or abstain in protest.

[K Gardner]

7. Simple: Because they can't.

[Evergreen Emerald]

9. There have been plenty.

But, they quickly reduce to attacks by the thugs masquerading as "progressives" I even was told by some posters to stop posting Clinton's achievements, as it is so repetitive. I guess her achievements were not what you were interested in.

[Exilednight]

12. Achievements and viability are two different things. You can end world hunger and make poverty ....

a thing of the past, but it doesn't mean you're going to win an election after you have been mathematically eliminated and behind in every measurable metric.

The popular vote metric is a myth. No one knows which candidate has more votes among the populace. Anyone who says otherwise either doesn't understand the system, or fooling themselves.

Most states won? Obama.

Most pledged delegates? Obama.

Most super delegates? Obama.

Most overall delegates? Obama.

National polling? Four out of five favor Obama.

Every time Hillary falls behind in a measurable way, she looks for a new ruler that favors her.

[SoFlaJet]

17. thugs huh?

how about we start referring to YOU Clinton supporters as bitches and ho's? Would you like that EE? Cut the veiled reference shit...

[WinkyDink]

11. Do the same.

[Exilednight]

13. Here you go ....

Most states won? Obama.

Most pledged delegates? Obama.

Most super delegates? Obama.

Most overall delegates? Obama.

National polling? Four out of five favor Obama.

[bowens43]

14. Obviously , if they could have done that she would have won the nomination.

She's not presidential material. She never was and she never will be.

[DS1]

15. I'll use some of their words

My Messiah doesn't have to be vetted, she's simply a better candidate and I believe this ever since my cult training.



Pretty obnoxious, isn't it?

[Gman]

19. The proof is that Hillary can win the white working class

Obama cannot. Hillary can win the big electoral vote states. Obama cannot. Obama can't even win a primary in a big state. Obama barely wins small state primaries without large African American populations. Consequently, McCain wins minimum 40 states in November. Start getting used to it. Start getting your outrage ready. Start begging for answers as to why you're saying President McCain, because you just won't understand, will you? And, above all, start claiming voter fraud because you haven't the faintest clue why Obama lost. Be sure to blame Dibold.

[emilyg]

20. They'll blame Hillary.

Just wait.

[Gman]

21. Of course. She will be the most convenient excuse for Obama losing

and the biggest loss since McGovern in 72.

This is going to be a friggin' trainwreck of biblical proportions.

Trainwreck of biblical proportions? What the hell does he mean by that? There were no trains in the bible.

[symbolman]

22. Funny trainersck quote, caught me offguard, had a good laugh :)

Okay, so what will You Say if (and I'm personally thinking "when") Obama runs the table again - and sends McSame yelping back to the Senate with his tail between his legs, as President Obama is Sworn in?

Will you be blaming Hillary for Toughening him up?

:)

GMan, you're a smart capable guy, but on this one we'll have to disagree.. There's a shift going on in the country and Universe, and McLame has never really beat anyone, he's The Born Loser, even stealing votes won't save him..

:)

[Gman]

32. What will I say if Obama sends McCain packing

I won't be able to wipe the smile off my face for at least 4 years.

Yeah, there's something going on in the country. There's a light at the end of the tunnel. Here's hoping it's not that train on its way to a wreck.

[Kahuna]

25. Obama can't win, SQUAWK!!! But he IS winning. Obviously whatever

coalition he has, it's larger than hillary's. duh.

[Chalco]

23. How about her record vs his.

And, no I'm not going to post it. I've posted it several times and not a single person commented on it. Obama supporters don't really want to know anything about Clinton.

I'm sure this one will be ignored as well.

[hokies4ever]

24. You counting all of those tea parties and dinners

she planned while First Lady as real 'experience'? She should have kept those White House schedules under wraps. Hillary Clinton is perhaps the most qualified person in this country at planning upscale dinner parties. If we want to count failed health care legislation, I guess we could include that as well. :rofl:

[Chalco]

28. Try this asshole.

But I really dont expect you to read any of this because you don't really want to know. Anyone who would be so disgusting as to say that her experience is in giving tea parties doesn't have the cajones to read information that might not conform to his beliefs and therefore might be confusing and oh my might cause him to think he was wrong. But you couldn't be wrong could you?

1-Children <http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/children/>

2-Civil Rights <http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/children/>

3-Economy <http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/economy/>

4-Election reform <http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/election>

5-Iraq <http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/iraq/>

6-National security <http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity>

7-Veterans <http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/veterans>

8-Women's rights <http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/women/>

I see you just joined DU less than a month ago and already have over 800 comments. Are you a troll trying to disrupt things, or an Obama person on the pay roll trying to disrupt things.

[hokies4ever]

31. How much money did you flush down the drain donating to Hillary?

Namecall THAT! :rofl:

[Chalco]

34. Just like I thought.

You don't really want to know the truth.

[democracy1st]

26. K & R

[nichomachus]

30. Yes, please do

[TexasObserver]

33. 16 months of running as inevitable doesn't leave room for conceding

Just as Hillary lacks either the emotional ability or the good sense to admit defeat, so do her most ardent supporters. Like Hillary, it's either get your way or throw a fit.

[Perry Logan]

36. For starters, she didn't call half the Democratic party "racists"!

[cali]

38. Mindless Clintophiles are the turds in the punchbowl of politics

You know all too well that Obama has never said any such thing, or even anything remotely related to it. Nor has anyone in his campaign said any such thing. Yet YOU choose to insinuate he has. Disgusting.

[Perry Logan]

39. My lawyers will be contacting you about stealing my lines.

Just kidding.

But I still think Obama's fans have done their best to alienate half the party.

We, not you, are the ones who should be disgusted, my friend. Even Obama people have commented on the savagery of the Clintophobes in their midst:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5120659

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