Democrats in WV, KY, OR, PR, MT and SD have a right to vote for their

[question everything]

(Sorry, Montana, you are MT, not MO)

preferred candidate, either Clinton or Obama. No one should tell Clinton (or Obama) to drop from the race before all the voters had a chance to vote.

After all, didn't many vote for Edwards even after he suspended his campaign? Or for Kucinich, Richardson and others? Weren't they still on many ballots?

(I would not know. In my caucus we got pieces of papers to write a name and we put the note in a box, to be tabulated later..)

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!

[JVS]

13. Guam was the turning point

[Hutzpa]

2. Yiiieeeeeek!!!!

:hide:

[AllentownJake]

3. No one wants to stop the voting

We want to stop the attacks on the presumptive nominee. If she wants to campaign she should be campaigning against McCain right now.

[boobooday]

4. They can still vote for whomever they want!

Notice Huckabee still taking GOP votes from McCain . . .

[Doityourself]

5. To me, it's not about Hillary staying in until the last primary..it's how she stays in..

[chascarrillo]

6. What makes you think Clinton won't still be on the ballot after she concedes?

:shrug:

[MercutioATC]

7. Agreed....especially because Clinton is no more viable than Edwards as the nominee.

That's not a poke at Edwards, just a claim that neither Edwards nor Clinton have any chance of being the Dem nominee.

If Clinton wants to keep spending money she doesn't have, that's her business.


My concern is that she isn't running a clean fight and she's now effectively attacking the Democratic nominee. She can stay in the race as long as she likes, I just hope she realizes the potential damage to the party as a whole if she keeps running this type of campaign.

[Yael]

8. Only HRC and BO were on the ballots in PA. This has nothing to do with people not voting

Hell, my mother voted for Huckabee on April 22nd.

Just because we have a presumptive nominee doesn't mean that the primaries are canceled.

[question everything]

18. Funny. Your mother must wonder where she went wrong ;-)

[Yael]

29. She thinks Obama is the AntiChrist.

Seriously.

*sigh*

On edit -- I told her my story about canvassing GOTV in Section 8 neighborhoods in the city on election day (making sure that everyone who wanted to vote was able and getting transportation for those who needed it) and how we were welcomed into homes of people left right and center -- that the Democratic party is uniting people beyond race.

Her response to me was "you expect me to be entertained by stories of how you are helping the AntiChrist take over this country?"

:rofl:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

32. Ask your mom why she's thwarting the will of God by not voting for Obama then.

If he's the anti-Christ, then his return to earth has been prophesized.

[Yael]

34. Believe it or not -- I tried that

Didn't get very far, but I thought I would throw it out there. :D

She was 'amused' by my support of John Edwards all last year (and even wears the Edwards '08 T-shirt I got her), but for some reason Barack scares the crap out of her.

Oh well.

[GarbagemanLB]

9. Hillary supporters need to shut up with this bullshit 'let all states vote!' argument.

Guess WHICH candidate said this would be over after Super Tuesday? Yeah, Hillary Clinton.

[question everything]

12. Niiice, very nice

It is this type of tone (I would not call your garbage "argument") that will persuade Clinton supporters to stay home (at best) or vote McCain (worse).

[GarbagemanLB]

14. Go ahead. Help the pro-life candidate win just to soothe your own bruised ego.How fucking childish.

[K Gardner]

10. Look.. people in ALL THE STATES have ALWAYS VOTED in Primaries ! No one has EVER

denied them the "right to vote". Sheesh people.. just because the nominee reaches pledged delegate majority prior to a primary does NOT negate the right to vote.

It has NOTHING to do with Hillary being in or OUT of this race.

[washingdem]

11. Dropping out wouldn't remove her name from the ballot.

[question everything]

15. But how many would still vote for her?

In my caucus on Super Tuesday I would have written Edwards, as I did four years ago, and he won, only to find out, when I drove home that he quit.

[washingdem]

17. As many people that want to.

[Stop Cornyn]

16. They could have moved up their primaries of they had so wished. It isn't my fault that the election

was over by the time their primaries rolled around.

[havocmom]

19. Didn't the Dems in MO already get to vote for their preferred candidate?

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/MO-D.phtml

Missouri Democrat
Presidential Nominating Process
Primary: Tuesday 5 February 20081
State Committee: Saturday 5 April 2008
State Convention: Saturday 10 May 2008


Obama, Barack 406,917
Clinton, Hillary Rodham 395,185
Edwards, John 16,763
Uncommitted 3,142
Kucinich, Dennis J. 820
Richardson, William B. "Bill", III 689
Biden, Joseph R. "Joe", Jr. 626
Gravel, Mike 438
Dodd, Christopher J. "Chris" 250
Spelbring, Ralph 220
(available)
Total 825,050

NOW, those of us in MonTana (MT) are voting June 3 and I don't get to vote for MY perfered candidate and that seems to be OK with HRC supporters, so no, I really don't think this needs to go on and be so damaging TO THE PARTY.

[question everything]

22. Sorry about that, went back and corrected: MO to MT

This is why we need rotating regional primaries.

I hope that at least this lesson the "powers that be" in the party would learn.

[havocmom]

28. Thanks for correcting your OP header.

As a MonTana resident born in MissOuri, I am a bit ticklish on that particular error. MO never made a lot of sense to me for the state of my origin, but then, I am not old enough to have been consulted in the matter.

And I still don't think voters being able to vote for their preferred candidate is a valid argument for HRC to keep making problems at a point when SO MANY of us already cannot vote for our PREFERRED CANDIDATE. But it seems many HRC promoters just don't think about voters who prefered lots of people over Hillary but can't vote for any of them with any purpose now.

She's out.

[Blarch]

20. The nomination is wrapped up.

nobody is telling them they can't vote ...it's just that the nomination was wrapped up before they voted.

Why can't hillary peeps understand this ?

[Pab Sungenis]

21. ..

[BlooInBloo]

23. Thanks, Captain Obvious. No-one said they didn't, or suggested they shouldn't.

[FARAFIELD]

24. Yes guam was THE turning point

[Yukari Yakumo]

25. MT here...

Frankly, I'd rather have HRC drop out so this thing can finally be put to rest. Or at least have HRC just shut the fuck up with her race-baiting and delusional bullshit.

[question everything]

33. Look how PA, NC and IN were exposed in the media in the past weeks

When was the last time that the residents of these states got to talk and to express their hopes and frustrations with the way things are?

No doubt, if Hillary is still in the race, Montana will get the limelights, too. And, of course, you have an interesting governor..

[Yukari Yakumo]

40. Yeah right...

We're last in this thing and have very few delegates.

Plus both of them have already made stops here already.

[HooptieWagon]

26. What if their candidate was Kucinich, Biden, Richardson, or Dodd?

hillary could withdraw tommorrow, and the elections won't be cancelled. Nobody is preventing anyone from voting by the rules.

[sandnsea]

27. Will you respect the result of that vote?

Or will you continue supporting your candidate overturn that vote?

[last_texas_dem]

31. Deleted

Decided against commenting; not being 100-percent sure about my assertion.

[gmudem]

30. Clinton said the primary campaign would be over by 2/5

So excuse me for not taking this "let all the states vote" argument too seriously.

[NJmaverick]

35. What if their candidate was RIchardson or Edwards????

[bowens43]

36. Whether she drops out or not they can vote.

But don't believe for a minute that hillary gives a flying fuck about whether or not anyone gets to vote. She wanted this thing to be over on super tuesday.

[Gore1FL]

37. They'll have a right to vote

I assure you the polling places will be open on the respective dates.

[NC_Nurse]

38. It is nice to matter for a change. I just want the tone of the campaign to

be positive. She could suspend her campaign like Edwards did and still collect donations and be on the ballots.
I think those states will get more exposure even if she does drop out. It's still a closer race than usual.

[Orangepeel]

39. I don't get it. You're saying that people can still vote after other candidates drop

Which of course is true. So what's the problem if Clinton drops out?

The primary will still happen, even if only one candidate is running. This is the first time in my 20 years of voting in presidential primaries that there was more than one candidate running by the time I got to vote.

I don't have any problem with her continuing to run (although I do not like the way she is running) or with her dropping out. I don't think it matters anymore.

[SoCalDem]

41. No one was EVER going to cancel your elections

When Kerry locked it up in IOWA & NH back in January of '04, ALL the rest of the elections happened...right on schedule, and in most cases, all the names were still on the ballots..even the ones who dropped out..

Hillie planned to drop ALL the states following Feb5, like a hot potato once she had "it all over by feb 5"..

She might have made a courtesy call to those states during her "victory tour", but ALL those elections would have still happened and people could have still voted for "their candidate"..

She's such a drama queen.. no wonder she loves the "under-educated" voters..she's got them all believing that their very right to vote depends on her continued stalking of Obama :rofl: