Clinton campaign continues to search for "damaging information" on Obama - but still wants VP slot

[powergirl]

I never believed she was just "winding things down" and trying to assuage the concerns of her supporters. She doesn't care what she does to Obama or the party. They've been on their "search" for several months and it's not working out -even Scaife hasn't been too helpful. And then to posture for a VP position - I hope that doesn't happen.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/bernstein.clinton/index.html

"However, several important Democrats aligned with Obama predicted that he -- and Michelle Obama -- will vigorously resist any Clinton effort to get on the ticket. Rather, Obama is more likely to try to convince Clinton to either stay in the Senate or accept another position in an Obama administration, should he win the presidency.

"Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination. But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination."

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Wait for it-

"Yet the Clinton campaign's search for damaging information and its hope that such information exists continues, according to knowledgeable sources. Strategist Harold Ickes, her premier tactical counselor, warned on the eve of the North Carolina and Indiana that Obama could be vulnerable to an "October surprise" by the McCain campaign."

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"Meanwhile, some of the Clintons' longtime friends and political counselors are intent on trying to talk her down calmly -- something almost like a family intervention -- to get her to concede the Democratic presidential race when the appropriate time comes, in such a way as to heal some of the wounds to the party and to both candidates but allow her to make her best case for the vice presidency.

"Almost no one I have spoken to who knows her well doubts that, as she reconciles to the likelihood that her presidential campaign will fall short, she will probably seek the vice presidential spot. One reason: Contrary to common belief, she doesn't look forward to going back to the Senate, they say. Many Democratic senators believe that she would not have an easy time winning an election for majority leader; the tenor and tactics of her presidential campaign have alienated some of her Democratic colleagues in the Senate."



:bounce:

[saltpoint]

1. When your campaign strategy comes down to awaiting a "catastrophic"

event to be your opponent's undoing, I think it's time to put the lid on the green bean casserole and stick it in the fridge.

Show's over, Mr. Wolfson. Please pay your last electric bill for your offices, and let's close this file.

[Patsy Stone]

35. Can you imagine?

Going to bed every night and the one thing that keeps you going is the possibility tomorrow may be the day they find something on him?

Very sad.

[saltpoint]

38. Hi, Patsy Stone. Yes. It's sad, and I mean personally sad and not

politically sad.

I'd be embarrassed to have a sentence like that attributed to me.

Who is running that campaign, anyway?

[nomorewhopper]

2. she sickens me

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. Me too. VP my ass.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

19. Me too. VP my ass.

[K Gardner]

3. "RAY OF HOPE for a CATASTROPHIC EVENT".... screw them.

[lisa58]

9. Not my definition of HOPE!

[shenmue]

29. Nice of you!

Wow. Manners much?

:puke:

[dionysus]

61. LOLOLOLOL... pollyanna much?

:rofl:

[K Gardner]

4. "people are trying to talk her down calmly".. good lord, she is frightening.

[Exilednight]

It kind of like watching a suicide jumper. n/t

[lisa58]

12. what's that song...

...break it to me gently...

[K Gardner]

17. Brenda Lee, Juice Newton, etc.. "break it to me gently, give me time.. give me

just a little time to ease the pain.."

[lisa58]

34. that's the one!

[Cha]

37. bush in a pantsuit..

[AllentownJake]

5. They've been doing Oppo research for a year

and she's pretty much ensured she won't be VP after the shit she's pulled this week.

[chascarrillo]

6. Hasta Manana!

[Hutzpa]

15. It that ASTA LA VISTA !

baby....


:hi:

[AllentownJake]

7. Why the fuck does getting her to concede

Sound like talking points of a police officer trying to get a jumper off a ledge.

[lisa58]

14. this thread is too funny - yet not funny...

...if you know what I mean.

[IDemo]

26. It's a Wonderful Primary

[Cha]

39. That's it! I was trying

to think of what this is analogous of and that comes the closest to anything I've thought of yet.

It's also reminiscent to me of a hostage negotiator talking to the taker outta of a crisis situation.

[AllentownJake]

47. This is past the point of worrying about

damaging the party. People who care about her need to worry about her damaging herself.

[IndianaGreen]

8. Hillary should become Obama's ambassador to Tuzla

She has plenty of experience dealing with snipers there.

[lisa58]

11. lol

[bvar22]

55. Good one, IG.

I had opposed giving Hillary any position in the Obama administration (the trust thing), but I think you found the perfect place.

Hillary for Ambassador!

[saltpoint]

10. On the subject of Sen. Clinton going for majority leader...

I'd love to see either Dick Durbin or Chris Dodd have that role.

Barbara Boxer, too, would be a far more vigorous progressive presence.

[lisa58]

13. better choices after this mess

[saltpoint]

16. Hi, lisa58. And I may be leaving some names out, but those 3 came to

mind right away.

I'm ready for a larger, more effective majority in the next Congress.

[K Gardner]

20. Dodd deserves it after his LONE FIGHT on the FISA bill.. god bless him ! Hillary

just does not have the temperament for it. Too divisive, too explosive.. too everything but what she needs to be.

[saltpoint]

22. Hi, K Gardner. Dodd. Yes. That was a bold stand on a hot potato,

and he came through with flying colors.

I could live with Chris Dodd in the role, no problem.

[AllentownJake]

21. I'm hoping for someday there will be

a Senate Majority Leader Al Franken :-)

[saltpoint]

23. Hi, Jake. That's a good wish, and if you don't mind, I'd like to just say

I hope there will no longer be a Senator Norm Coleman in the next Congress.

After that numbskull is gone, we can work on promoting Al for the job!

:thumbsup: :hi: :dem:

[Liberal Veteran]

24. It probably sounds unkind, but I'm not sure she wouldn't use the position to undermine Obama.

I have come out of this with a deep distrust of Senator Clinton and a feeling that she can be incredibly vindictive.

[saltpoint]

31. I am arguing for Durbin, Dodd, or Boxer, and open to other names,

but prefer that Sen. Clinton not have a leadership role.

Perhaps an ambassadorship some place.

[globalvillage]

53. Three of my favorites, OC.

I was thinking Hillary would be good in that role. That was weeks ago. Now I think it would be impossible.

[saltpoint]

57. Hi globalvillage. A lot of things are connected. She can't run

the kind of campaign she's running and then come back and say to colleagues in the Senate, hey, I want to lead you guys.

[Cha]

42. It sounds more like a

"heads up", to me.

[mamalone]

43. sadly...

that would be my concern as well. I mean if she were VP and Obama was not a successful pres, or if he had some type of scandal or other that would keep him from seeking a 3rd term... or maybe even force him from office... Well, what do ya know? lookie who's waiting right there in the wings?

It's scary that my thoughts are even going in this direction...

[BattyDem]

51. I agree.

If she is so far gone that people have to "talk her down calmly" then she shouldn't be trusted as VP. What if she tries to bring the Obama Administration down from the inside?

[Inuca]

45. They vote on that, don't they?

And I do not think that she is super-popular among dem senators right now, even less so if this circus continues much longer.

[saltpoint]

48. Hi, Inuca. Yes, Senators interested in the job lobby and a vote is held.

Agree with you -- she is not wildly popular in the Senate at the moment.

And agree also that the longer she takes these digs at Obama, who is very likely the next president the Senate must work with, the less likely she will become.

As I've posted here before, I have no idea in hell who is advising her, but he or she is likely the most overpaid advisor in the world.

[williesgirl]

25. FUCK HER.

[BlooInBloo]

30. Beat me to it.

[Danger Mouse]

27. It is my hope that her VP ambitions are met with an invitation...

to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.

[shenmue]

28. I'm actually hoping she'll continue in the Senate, or someday, for governor of New York.

She has strong support there and there's no reason to give up on that.

[AllentownJake]

33. That's fading

[CakeGrrl]

32. She's disturbing...and the whole campaign is a bunch of vultures

You don't have to talk a sane person down 'calmly'. Everyone else in this race dropped out like reasonable people.

Given all the machinations and the politics of destruction (and the continued hope that it will happen to Obama), and reports of this bunker mentality, it's hard to understand why some Obama supporters don't seem to be overly concerned that she could be on his ticket...

[Cha]

36. Obama hasn't worked this hard and

come this hard to have the biggest screw-up in Democratic Primary history extort her way on to the ticket.

hilary is the worst politians have to offer. Want the summary of a dirty politician=hilary.

[democracy1st]

40. those are some serious bullsh..trs

[HCE SuiGeneris]

41. Hillary (R) Clinton.

'nuff said.

[NorthCarolina]

44. Did Hillary need help from the black community in NY to win her Senate seat?

if so I think she's in a heap-O-trouble.

[rainbow4321]

46. She made her bed now she gets to lay in it...

This whole fucking mess could have been avoided...by HER.
SHE has isolated herself from the rest of the Dem party and NOW she has the nerve to even CONSIDER being in the future Dem administration?????



Hillary, you are irrelevant now...FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.



Found these HRC quotes a while back:

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/hillary_clinton.html

Probably my worst quality is that I get very passionate about what I think is right.
(that's a nice way to phrase a deep psychological disorder)


The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not.

(yes, you're right, we are. SO GO THE FUCK AWAY. NOW. )

[MattP]

49. Effie from Dreamgirls

Did anybody else see where someone said they expected her to start singing the song from Dreamgirls I'm not Going.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

50. TELL THE TRUTH, HILLARY IS REPUBLICAN LITE

:puffpiece: :loveya: :puffpiece: :puffpiece: :loveya: :puffpiece: :loveya:

[stillcool]

52. That's pretty frightening...

who would have thunk shit like this would come from the Democratic Party? I hate to think of what they are 'hoping' for.

[symbolman]

56. you know, as far out as she's taken everyone on this bizarre ride..

some part of me agrees with you, its almost like she's hoping for Michelle to get cancer or some knuckle-dragger to take a potshot at the man.. It worries me because she and her advisors seem to have no Scruples at all.. Only a "passion" for their way..

God, keep this man safe in your hands, keep the SS vigilant, and open the eyes of those wishing and hoping for Obama's demise.. So her Campaign IS about Hope, Eh? Hoping that Obama has a catastrophic failure of some kind..

Jesus, I can't believe they'd even let ON that THAT is what they're hoping for! Vulturish, and so totally Devoid of CLASS that its mind-bending..

And this is another reason she's losing.. Karma Is as Karma Does..

[rocktivity]

54. Written by Hillary biographer Carl Bernstein...

:boring:
rocknation

[Colobo]

58. They won't find jack.

[dkf]

59. She doesn't like being a senator? Is that for real?

She was simply using it to run for President I guess. How sad for the people of NY.

[Cha]

60. Yeah, it's real sad..but

if it finally ends..there's some compensation in that.