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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:41 PM
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Anyone donating to HRC now must understand that they are merely putting $$ in her pocket
to help her pay herself back WITH INTEREST on the loans she made her campaign. that goes for her presidential campaign, as well as any donations to her senatorial campaign. you are doing nothing but putting $$ into hillary and bill clinton's pockets.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:42 PM
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1. not sure why you would care who donates to who . . .
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MikeDJohn Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:45 PM
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5. But I care where people spend their money........
Maybe you have so much you don't.

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:02 PM
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16. why?
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:15 PM
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26. i just want them to be informed that their donations will be going into the clintons' personal
coffers...

she is going to PROFIT from loaning herself $$ in the form of interest on the loans. that, to me, is unseemly. of course folks will do what they wish, but they should know the facts before they donate. hillary should level with her potential donors.

hell, if she did, I would donate to her to help her out; but i don't like to be played for a sucker.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:26 PM
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33. but why do you care how or to whom anyone contributes . . .
isn't that their business? Any other reason you feel like tinkering with the lives and finances of others?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:44 PM
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2. I earned it
and will do with it what I please.
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:53 PM
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9. "I earned it and will do with it what I please."
of course, i would never suggest otherwise, but it's a bit unseemly to think the clintons found a way to funnel cash earned from shady things like bill's library fund and speeches to industry and foreign audiences into their campaign.

the amount of money HRC blew in the run up to super tuesday, in an effort to deny later voting states the right to cast a meaningful primary vote, is preposterous.... considering the way they have race baited and torn this party in half, i say they should have to pay this debt on their own... serves them right for their arrogance.

but of course, everyone will do as they please. this is only my opinion
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:56 PM
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10. yes I will - thank you
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:44 PM
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3. bothers you, huh?
heh
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:03 PM
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17. yeah it bothers me that they still play democratic voters for suckers
by continuing the farce that she still can win so that she can stay in the race to solicit campaign funds that will ultimately wind up in her pocket when her campaign pays her back for the $11mm in loans (source of income: only God knows) she made to it.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:29 PM
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35. the NON-doner is lecturing folks on how to spend their $$! te he.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:45 PM
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4. I believe people can make their own decisions about their own money
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:45 PM
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6. A fool and his money are soon parted.
As the old saying goes.
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MikeDJohn Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:46 PM
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7. Amen! eom
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:50 PM
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8. I said this in another thread but it depends on the Premise
Edited on Sun May-11-08 08:14 PM by galaxy21
towards the end of their campaign Huckabee/Paul were both honest about their chances, but most gave them money anyway out of protest against Mccain, or because they wanted to. No one reallythought they could win.

Hillary is still telling people she can win. Are people giving her money because of that, or are they aware she doesnt have a chance but are willing to give her their cash anyway?

Bottom line: she should not still be acting like she has a good chance of winning. It's misleading.
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:59 PM
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14. great point and totally agree
she is running around furiousloy soliciting donations, pretending she still has a change to win, when this is clearly not the case. someone needs to re-introduce that woman, and her delusional supporters, to reality. she has no chance, and, if she wants to stay in the race so she can continue to raise funds to pay off her debts, she should say so. then donors can make an informed choice. but the clintons have always been hucksters. asking them to level with the common folk is apparently asking too much.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:58 PM
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12. That makes Bill Clinton a multi-million dollar fool. n/t
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:58 PM
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11. of course it's up to individual people to give it you like, but I think it's a bit unnerving that
she's asking/begging for money, somewhat immoral IMO.
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:06 PM
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18. not only is she begging, but when i went to hillaryclinton.com yday...
i didnt even get to the home page before i was re-directed to another page soliciting contributions.

i thought that was a little crass that she re-directed me to the page asking for credit card info for donations.

i guess they don't see much point being subtle when the chances they might not recoup their millions are so high.

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:58 PM
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13. Who am I to tell people what to do with their money?
Edited on Sun May-11-08 07:59 PM by backscatter712
If they want to fund a defeated campaign, that's their choice.
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:09 PM
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20. HRC should at least be honest about it instead of playing contributors for suckers
she should tell everyone that her chances are slim but she is stayin in for the off chance that obama implodes and also to raise funds to pay herself back. or she could even say she's staying in to raise $$ to pay off campaign debts without mentioning that she is the primary creditor.. people would at least know what they are donating to.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 07:59 PM
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15. If they want to do that
Edited on Sun May-11-08 08:00 PM by Jake3463
That's their business. Most of her supporters know this is over. If they don't than they are uniformed and not watching or reading everything that is written...everywhere.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:07 PM
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19. Because of course the hate cannot stop.
I have seen more anti-Clinton threads in the past week then I have in all the time I have been on the DU.

Almost all of the Senator Obama threads have been positive (one or two negative ones have cropped up.)

If people want to donate to Senator Clinton, back off, it is THEIR money, not yours and they can do whatever they want with it.

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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:11 PM
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22. please, DU has had it's share of anticlinton posts throughout the primary season
if it seems like it's more now, maybe it's b/c democrats are few up with with her delusional pursuit of a nomination she cannot win, in which she continues to damage herself, her party, and the guy we are going to need to whip mccain.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:19 PM
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29. Good lord, leave her alone, she is free to continue if she wants to.
And her supporters are free to support her if they want to. Even if you think they are idiots for doing so, TELLING THEM THAT DOES LITTLE BUT MAKE IT HARDER FOR YOUR CANDIDATE IN THE FALL TO PICK UP THOSE VOTERS.

Remember the old adage: if you cannot say anything nice, do not say anything at all? Same goes here.
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:20 PM
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31. yes, she is free, but at what cost to the party?
hillbill should level with the people she is courting for donations rather than lie to them.

it's a simple question of honor and dignity.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:25 PM
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32. 50% turn out. Or higher...Golly what a cost to the party.
:eyes:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:13 PM
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24. Amen.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:10 PM
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21. I hope she has to pay for it as a reward for prolonging this and hurting the party.
Edited on Sun May-11-08 08:11 PM by L0oniX
It was her decision to invest in a bad deal. I won't be sorry for people with that much money and power. Screw the Clinton's.
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:12 PM
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23. exactly... eom...
she has lost herself all the good will she started out with
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:13 PM
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25. or Mark Penn's fat pockets. He will go down in history for his ineptitude in delivering
bad strategic plans for the campaign and yet he profited grossly. If I were a Clinton supporter, I would be pissed off at this despicable buffoon.
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:17 PM
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28. that her campaign would up with depleted coffers after the obscene amount of $$
she raised is stupefying... the arrogance of a campaign that thought it would have wrapped the nomination on super tuesday must not be rewarded.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:15 PM
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27. Dear me. What ARE you so afraid of?
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:19 PM
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30. just want folks who donate to do so with open eyes...
hillbill should admit they have no chance and are only raising donations to pay themselves back.

her personal financial considerations are what keeps her campaign going.

or at least that's how it looks to someone like me who has determined she has no shot at winning.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:27 PM
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34. You are the FOOLISH one--lecturing people as they they do not
know the situation.

what an arrogant wittle Obama fan you are. you actually make them look stupid!!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:35 PM
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36. Here's a classic for ya
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