I certainly hope Sebelius is the VP.

[mystieus]

If anything happened to Barack, we could count on Kathleen Sebelius to carry on Barack's policies.

God forbid that anything should ever happen to Barack, other than being elected President and being reelected, but as a VP is chosen I do hope it IS someone who has the same or a very similar philosophy that Barack has.

A Clinton politian would not fit that bill or they would already be supporting Barack. I would find other important offices within the Administration to utilize Clinton's skills and her surrogates' skills, but not as VP.

[Aloha Spirit]

1. me too!

[yurbud]

2. It would be smarter to pick someone with a military background and/or from the South

like Webb or Wes Clark.

[mystieus]

4. I don't buy into the idea that we need 'military musculature'

it was that kind of thinking which told us John Kerry would be a shoo-in in 2004, and to some extent I bought that reasoning. I think it's fallacious. I think the American people are far less driven by that kind of thinking than the conventional wisdom gives them credit.

We need bright candidates who can articulate vision.

[beezlebum]

11. me either

and i'm all for sebelius.

[Aloha Spirit]

22. Agree. Plus, that's not the VP's job, to be muscular. That's the SOD's job.

[yurbud]

34. GOP always tries to paint Dems as weak on defense, so Clark or Webb would make that more difficult

[mystieus]

39. Who cares what they think, Republicans don't set our agenda

[yurbud]

40. they own the media, so they largely do.

[virtualobserver]

3. I completely agree. I also believe that it is time to have a woman at the top

I completely disagree with the view that some hold, that a black man and a woman represent too much change. We need a lot of change.

[yurbud]

5. Sebelius is DLC. That means business will trump the interests of ordinary people with her

On DLC page:
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=450015&subid=900153&contentid=253858

[mystieus]

10. The people of Kansas disagree

[yurbud]

33. DLC is better than Republican, but when you have a choice between them and a progressive...

go with the more progressive.

[kentuck]

6. I have never heard her speak...

Is she a progressive? Is she really intelligent? What makes her so good??

[mystieus]

12. Listen to this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY4rgdPjlTE

[LibraLiz1973]

25. One of the worst speeches I have ever witnessed

[closeupready]

7. Sebelius is a good choice, but he needs someone with a military background.

That would be a killer ticket.

[mystieus]

16. And I'm not making a big deal out of military service because

all you have to do is look at how the Republicans trashed Kerry's military record and you'll see that they don't give a damn about that and neither should we. We need to stop allowing them to define who we are.

[closeupready]

19. You have a point, and I agree we must NOT let the GOP guide us.

However, I'm thinking in terms of broad appeal - is Sebelius going to round out the ticket for a sufficient number of voters as well as someone like Jim Webb or Wes Clark will?

[mystieus]

21. The point of my thread is if something were to happen to Obama which VP candidate is best to

Carry-on his philosophy... Jim Webb or Wes Clark, No. Kathleen Sebelius was on this train since she won Kansas governorship.

[flor de jasmim]

8. She sounds SUPREMELY competent, but

BORING when I've heard her speak. Yet she has won elections, so what do I know? But has anyone heard her sound truly passionate about anything?

[YOY]

9. The Finnish nationalist composer???

I thought he was dead!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

28. Who do you want for veep? CLINTON?...

:rofl:

[YOY]

29. No, he's already got a seat in "Parliament"

He heard the yearning masses strong outcry demanding "the funk" years ago...

[Bucky]

13. Her speaking style is kind of boring.

I guess boring people are an important voting bloc, but I still don't find her all that inspirational a public figure.

[mystieus]

14. We already have an orator in Obama...she doesn't need to be that

[NashVegas]

15. Good Luck With That, She's Totally DLC

Which was one of the greatest objections against Hillary Clinton for so many.

[mystieus]

17. Obama is going to pick someone who goes along with his new politics and his message of change.

[NashVegas]

18. I Think You Mean the Appearance of Change

ps - Female candidates are not interchangeable.

[mystieus]

20. You can sit on your ass and whine about our problems or do something about them

He believes change starts from the bottom up, not the top down. His whole candidacy is funded by us. over 1.5 million donors. no pac or federal registered lobbyist.

The idea is we'll have a voice over lobbyist in the white house because he's not in their back pocket.. something McCain or Hillary can't do.

[knixphan]

37. agreed

[LibraLiz1973]

23. I was hoping for someone with a personality

Sorry, I could not disagree more.
We need someone who can SPEAK on a national level without sounding
like the words were programmed and sent to a chip in the speakers head.

[PATRICK]

24. As Edwards said

he would pick someone totally on board with his policies. Since Obama really does not need more charisma or old guard lifelines he will likely pick a teammate not a conciliating sop or a nobody. That would take care of the dangerous times argument which certainly cannot be dismissed. JFK was forced to pick LBJ and with all the multiple enmities and risks that ensued it was a fateful choice.

I think even the experience issue might not be so strong if addled McCain falls into further decline following Bush and his own bloodthirsty fumbling for war. I think there is specific room on Obama's team in the cabinet for people like Clark who would have a herculean task cleaning up the military, going after real sources of terrorism. Edwards would be great as a deterrent to those thinking Obama is too liberal. In a double irony Edwards is less likely, since he is simply part of the old tickets while being more ambitious now for his programs just to take the job and shut up. Gore Edwards and carter, the retired pols have considerable advocacy outside government which will be invaluable. Cabinet insiders will have woeful cleanups and restorations to grimly engage in.

I think was early here in examining Sebelius although Richardson has a few things on her. In both their cases the Clinton factor looms large so long as she hasn't moved her bloc toward full reconciliation. Even so, Obama has the option of making great choices work for him in that area too. McCain can only appoint a Bush stooge, likely Romney or get embroiled with groups of discontent in picking a bigger loser than himself. He himself is blinded by ambition and not in the center of the game. He won't even think about the succession or what personal danger he faces from within his own circles.

The power of Obama, thanks to the long primaries, is not just centered on one single person. I think we are getting at broader empowering. The real fear should exist on the other side- where it belongs.

[LibraLiz1973]

26. Choosing a "nobody" would be disastrous

He's already going to have a hell of a time getting elected

[mystieus]

27. She is one of the most popular governors! a nobody, lol geez

Do some research if you're out of the loop.

[LibraLiz1973]

38. lol

That response cracked me up- thanks!

[Avalux]

30. She would be good, however I think we need someone with strong FP experience. n/t

[mystieus]

31. Newly uploaded video on why this would be a excellent choice.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x130945

Enjoy!

[Avalux]

32. Thanks!

:hi:

[oldpol]

35. she is a great governor

I couldn't agree more!

[mystieus]

36. I would LOVE to see an Obama/Sebelius ticket.

Sebelius is a high achiever who has forged a tremendous reputation as a Democratic governor in a red state. You couldn't ask for a better narrative to fit into the idea of a coalition that stretches through both blue and red states.