Norah O'Donnell has developed a CACKLE!

[PCIntern]

She was just on with Senator McCaskill and when the good senator would give her a political answer to one of Norah's trademark moran questions, she CACKLED!

Then MSNBC cut directly to McSame discussing the importance of climate change....

[lisa58]

1. she's always had a cackle...

...that's why my teevee is on mute right now

[PCIntern]

2. this one's different...

i know the one you mean...that was more of a CHORTLE. This is a CACKLE!

[SoCalDem]

3. Nora's always been a cackler

:rofl:

[DJ13]

4. She's been a closet Clinton supporter so long, she caught the dreaded cackle virus

:scared:

[lisa58]

5. No she isn't...

...she loves McCain

[DJ13]

8. ..she loves McCain

......now she does, just like so many other Clinton diehards.

But no one took greater pride in talking about Wright and how it should help Clinton than Norah.

[lisa58]

19. She's loved McCain since 2000...

...she covered his campaign on the bus and was smitten. She and Tucker were reminiscing about it a couple of weeks ago and when asked if a Kerry and McCain would be unbeatable in 2004 she made a point of emphasizing McCain's name first as in a "McCain/Kerry ticket".

[PCIntern]

7. Tweety's gonna be able to go into one of

those closets at the new MSNBCplace, where they keep the red hair dye, and pleasure himself to another CACKLE...since he was so fond of Hillary's.

[WinkyDink]

53. She's as Republican as all get-out.

[panAmerican]

6. I've always known her as a cackler, but hers is much easier on the ears than Hillary's

[tyne]

9. I think it's darling...

I love it when she "cackles".

[PCIntern]

11. ...and on the eyes...

[peaches2003]

13. If she is the professional journalist

she likes to pretend she is, I would like to know exactly what this photograph is used for. Is this in her portfolio along with her resume?

[ccharles000]

44. I like the way Hillary laughs.

[Lucky 13]

10. Ugh. So what?

It's hard to be a female journalist. Wicked hard. Double standards, ridiculous scrutiny, etc.

You want to criticize her? Fine. I think you have plenty to work with. Her questions are often inane, and I feel, slanted. So can you bust on her for her lack of journalistic merit not a cackle or chortle or giggle or whatever.


(Sorry. I'm a little sensitive. My partner is a local TV reporter and the SHIT she puts up with is unreal - from her coworkers, bosses AND viewers.)

[PCIntern]

12. WTF, man?

I mean really...she's the one who says "democrat Candidate", and "you don't really think that Obama can...". this is well-documented here.

We make fun of O'Lielly and we make fun of O'Donnell...Who I may add is wearing skirts entirely too short for her present condition.

[Doityourself]

52. "Who I may add is wearing skirts entirely too short for her present condition."

Why? Because you say so?

She's looks great. I'm sorry, you think because she's pregnant she should be in long skirts, high collars or moo-moos and flats!

[Writer]

14. We need to do much, much more work into female sterotypes.

The fact that an OP like this goes without a vehement castigation by people on DU is abominable.

BTW: I'm sorry to read about your partner. I used to do ratings research for a local TV station, and all I have to say is, "It sure must be nice to have a penis and to be in power."

~Writer~

PS to the OP: Take your sexist trash elsewhere.

[PCIntern]

16. Excuse me but...

since when is cackling a sexist accusation?

Methinks thou does project too much.

How about YOU go elsewhere?

[Writer]

17. No, I'm not going anywhere.

Why else are you labeling her laugh as a "cackle," if anything, but to paint her as a witch?

A terrible laugh? Okay. But that's not what you said. Saying "cackle" is implying that her laugh somehow is ingenuine and that there's something witchlike about her. Why is that, PCIntern? Why witchlike?

[PCIntern]

21. Why do you ask why?

Are you enjoying starting arguments and raising people's blood pressures around here? Do you think you're original, trying that nonsense? What are you so defensive about? Why don't we see people like you rush to the aid of male reporters where DUers state that they saw them 'storming-mad' and 'angry'? That's not considered 'sexist'? No?

This is the most ridiculous thing you've posted except for everything else you have ever posted.

[Writer]

23. You didn't answer my question.

Why did you use the word "cackle," but if not to imply that there's something witchlike about Norah O'Donnell?

[PCIntern]

25. Men can't 'cackle'?

No? Really?

What kind of 'writer' are you? Short on originality and bad use of euphemisms I'm sure. Actually, I'm not sure, I'm certain.

[Writer]

26. No, men typically are not said to "cackle."

Because it's a word associated with female chickens - hens - after they lay eggs.

It's also described as a "high pitched, shrill laugh" that men aren't expected to make.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cackle

And it's associated with witches - another female archetype.

[PCIntern]

27. ...and trivial posts are associated with

oppositional personality disorders.

So what?

[Writer]

28. You are demeaning her by characterizing her laugh as witchlike.

And you're trying to pretend that it's an okay thing to do. It's not. It's stereotyping her based on her gender.

[PCIntern]

30. Just stop it....

you're making a fool out of yourself and you've come to this fight completely unarmed. It's just embarassing.

[Writer]

33. I'm not going to stop it.

I think your OP is attacking O'Donnell as being witchlike, and that is sexist.

[PCIntern]

34. I think you're being repetitive, redundant, and are saying things over and over

again.

You made you point, it's trivial and trite, and now you can go back to making popcorn and watching TV, rather than working on your Great American Novel.

[Writer]

35. Well then I've made my point, then.

And I think it's a good one to have made, and I'm glad I did so, thank you.

[PCIntern]

37. I'm sorry, I apologize profusely...

I should have realized: you were the writer who wrote the Monty Python Episode:

"...this is my theory which belongs to me and is mine too...!"

But can you burrow through an elephant?

[MADem]

39. Nope--YOU'RE the embarassment, here. Your sexism is showing. NT

[PCIntern]

49. Oh really?

My sexism is showing. To what precisely are you referring? Are you referring to my use of the word 'cackle'? do you associate that with the anti-Hillary diatribes on this site? Have you ever read an anti-Hillary diatribe authored by me? You haven't? That's because you can't find one.

But you can make up stuff and attempt to anger a longtime poster here at DU for inconsequential, false, and frankly, less-than-sound reasons. I've read your posts...you and I are congruent on so many issues. How could you assume from my use of a word that I'm sexist when that word is neither masculine nor feminine. It was the other angry folk who did that.

I'm very disappointed in you.

[MADem]

57. That, and your anguished "defense" of your remarks.

It's just a shitty thing to do, to go after women like that, with that kind of gender-pejorative language, and then play dumb about it--there's more than one kind of "code" language, you know.

I'd wager if someone used "shuck and jive" to suggest that Obama was avoiding an issue, the thread would be locked in a heartbeat, after a series of outraged "Hmmmmphs!" and calls for banning the OP. But....but....those aren't RACE-SPECIFIC words, ARE they? Why, ANYONE can "shuck and jive" can't they? Yeah, sure. Like anyone can cackle.

The "cackle" word IS sexist. It's been dragged out by the GOP for eons to denigrate Clinton. It's a shame to see it here on DU.

I'm disappointed in you, too.

[PCIntern]

61. There certainly is more than one kind of code language

and you're using it right now, you're hateful and resentful of some folks and it's coming right through your text. Your motives are transparent and your use of obscenities is not effective nor is it convincing. Good luck to you in trying to change the aspects of the world which don't require changing. If you ever wonder why our Liberal Cause is probably doomed to failure, look in the mirror.

[MADem]

62. Changing the subject doesn't change the facts of your OP.

"Cackle away" for all I care. I call it like I see it, and you came through loud and clear.

FWIW, real "liberals" don't feel a need to denigrate women with sexist language--you might want to check your own mirror before you cast aspersions on others. Suggesting that my objection to your sexist language will somehow doom the liberal cause to failure is a pretty pathetic stretch on your part, as well.

This is certainly not your finest hour.

[Doityourself]

55. I don't normally agree with you..but Bingo..the poster even disapproves of the length of her skirts

in "her condition"

"Who I may add is wearing skirts entirely too short for her present condition."

[MonkeyFunk]

51. It always has been

hens cackle. Women laugh.

[MADem]

38. The fact that an OP like this goes without a vehement castigation by people on DU is abominable.

Abominable, yes...but par for the course.

These "progressives," many of them, I have noticed, are not so progressive.

[Writer]

41. I wish that Clinton could create an organization committed to the enhancement of women...

in business and in politics. I'd love to see that - a truly powerful force that can speak up on behalf of women who are breaking glass ceilings.

And for women's rights around the world.

[MADem]

42. The fact that people here feel so free to disparage women

tells me that a lot of them are about as progressive as Bob Barr.

It's disgusting. And no organization could fix that. What would fix it is equal representation in the House, Senate and Judiciary. Then maybe we'd see some of this bullshit cease.

[Writer]

43. I fear a post-election backlash against women in the workplace.

I'm very glad I don't work traditionally right now.

[MADem]

46. I think it's happening already. Look at this thread. No fucking shame, either. NT

[Writer]

47. It's because women do not speak against it en masse. n/t

[MADem]

48. Yeah, they'll get fired if they do. NT

[TexanDem]

15. I heard it -- but same laugh as always -- maybe a little more pronounced.

[ShortnFiery]

45. Sometimes Nora gets a little "right of center" but I love her laugh ... it's too cool

to see an attractive woman "be herself" ... and let out that hilarious belly/nasal laugh ... it cracks me up - in a good way. :shrug:

[Bensthename]

18. Don't be talkin about my woman..

She is a yummy edible treat.. Mmmmmm.

[PCIntern]

22. Howcum the poster's who trying to destroy me

isn't coming after you too?

:hi:

[Writer]

24. Because he's simply expressing an attraction for her...

not demeaning her by calling her laugh a "cackle."

[PCIntern]

29. At long last ,have you no decency?

Nice try...double-standard. It's OK to lust after a gal on TV, but not to describe her laugh?

take a walk...

[Writer]

31. Okay. I'll tell the Keith Olbermann estrogen brigade.

No, I don't think it's a big deal, nor is it sexist, to find a person on television attractive.

But I do think it's sexist to demean a person based on her gender.

[redqueen]

58. Keith isn't a shill for the administration. Norah, on the other hand...

[redqueen]

56. Well if it's positive, then the sexism is FINE!

It sickens me seeing this shill of a reporter get a pass cause she's thought of as "hot".

Last week a Hillary supporter was going up and down a thread criticizing ANYONE who dared to say Michelle looked nice in her dress.

Someone then said how much more grace and feminine wonderfulness Jackie-O had, and (surprise surprise!) that went without comment.

:banghead:

[Bensthename]

32. LOL,

Good question.. I'm not sure.. But I like her, she sure looks and talks purddy.

[Catherine Vincent]

20. I hate to say this but she's always laughed that way.

And if that is labeled a "cackle", then so be it.

[Jamastiene]

36. "Developed" my ass.

She's ALWAYS had one. You should have seen her fawning over Chimpy at Crawford Ranch during the 2000 General Election. It was enough to make someone want to :puke:

[Name removed]

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[npincus]

50. where've you been? She's the Queen of Cacklers.

One day I'm expecting to see her fly off on a broomstick.

[PCIntern]

54. Better watch out!

The DU paranoids are going to be teeing off on your head....right after they finish up with me!

LOL.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

59. We call that cackle "Geoff Tracy."

[peaches2003]

60. And I STILL want to know

what a woman, who I am sure insists she has earned all the success in her career because of her talent for journalism and broadcasting, is doing with a professional photo like the above which certainly was put out for the public. I thought women were fighting any suggestion that they have used blatant sex appeal to further their careers.

[AZBlue]

63. Is she wearing the light blue pantsuit yet?

Is she carrying around her Hillary Clinton doll and asking for an extra seat for it?