Oh, screw you, MSNBC pundits....Grrrrr!

[bicentennial_baby]

I just watched the discussion on who would be the best VP for Obama...Out of all the possible choices (Webb, Sebelius, Strickland, etc.), they chose...

CHUCK HAGEL (R)

:puke: :puke: :puke:

No fucking way. x(

[anonymous171]

1. Isn't he just an anti-war republican?

[bicentennial_baby]

2. Yes, he is...The operative word being

"republican"

:crazy:

[DJ13]

3. He's actually an anti-Bush Republican

[PBS Poll-435]

4. Whose election was questionable because of his interest in ES&S.

[FrenchieCat]

7. He's no longer a Republican......

But I'm sure that Obama will choose wisely, whomever he chooses.

Glad the pundits are talking about GE issues though.....better than them making Hillary winning WV being anything different than Obama winning Washington D.C.

[John Q. Citizen]

12. When did Hagel renounce the Repo Party? I hadn't heard.

[bicentennial_baby]

15. according to Wiki, he's still a 'puke

Just not running for his seat again.

[babylonsister]

17. Yes he is, AFAIK. You might be thinking of Chaffee. nt

[FrenchieCat]

24. That must be it.

Out of all of the Republicans that I can think of in congress, he's probably the most honorable....even if I don't agree with most of his views.

[babylonsister]

29. I do like Chafee, and Hagel is okay, but certainly not VP

material imo.
His anti-war platform is just fine with me though.

[SoFlaJet]

19. exactly FC

he's as much of a republican as LIEberman is a democrat. I've been wondering if McCain would be stupid enough to actually CHOOSE Holy Joe for a running mate-that would absolutely guarantee our winning in November

[anonymous171]

28. McCain/Lieberman would be the most uninspiring ticket ever put together.

[PM7nj]

11. Yes, but he is VERY conservative on everything else.

[gateley]

5. What reasons did they give for that assessment? nt

[bicentennial_baby]

9. Experience, credibility, anti-war...

I'm not voting for g-damn Repuke in Novemeber, hell no.

[gateley]

32. Don't worry - Obama would never go for it. And the Dem party probably

wouldn't either. These pundits are just way off base a lot of the time.

[maxsolomon]

6. don't pay them any mind.

they exist to fill space.

[redqueen]

8. Ah, the librul media... always looking out for the Democrat party's interests.

:rofl:

[Bensthename]

10. I thought the same thing.. Yah a republican on the ticket... No thanks..

Though Hagel is the lesser of the rePube evil, I dont think so.

[anonymous171]

13. Reading his wikipedia page, he seems to believe that certain issues are above politics

"National security is more important than the Republican Party or the Democratic Party. And to use it to try and get someone elected will ultimately end up in defeat and disaster for that political party."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagel#Criticism_of_the_Bush_Administration

[Zynx]

14. From the standpoint of winning, it makes sense.

However, it would make for an unstable executive branch.

[Joe the Revelator]

16. I like some of Hagel's ideas, and I think some of them are purely shitty...but...its a better idea

then asking McCain to be on the ticket in 04.

I also think, just purely hypothetically, that he's a stronger choice then putting Hillary in the VP slot.

[eleny]

18. GE putting it's finger in and trying to stir the pot

[nomaco-10]

20. Get ready for twenty or fifty, maybe more .....

"CLARKIES" to descend upon this post. They came out of the woodwork in 2004 when we had the Dean/Kerry smack down to insert themselves as the front runners. When that didn't work, they insisted the party would be lost without him as the VP candidate.

They are nice enough people, but they have become a phenomenon and an enigma to me at this point.

[Pirate Smile]

21. I think he could be a good choice for Sect. of Defense, and I don't think it would be a bad idea to

let that be known before the election.

[Joe the Revelator]

26. I agree.

[anonymous171]

22. Looks like he's a huge foreign policy guy. Also a vietnam vet.

In Senator Hagel's new book, America: Our Next Chapter, he suggests that the United States should adopt independent leadership and possibly another political party. He also believes that the Iraq War is one of the five biggest blunders in history. Hagel is critical of George W. Bush's foreign policy, calling it "reckless." He has been a major critic of the war since it started, and has stated that the United States should learn from their mistakes in the Vietnam War. He considers Bush's foreign policy a "ping pong game with American lives".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagel

[bicentennial_baby]

23. And anti-choice, anti-gay...

:thumbsdown:

[anonymous171]

25. I know. That is a problem with a VP. Also, huge incentive for GOP to "get rid of" Obama

[L0oniX]

27. Fuck Tweety with a rubber hose.

:evilfrown:

[nomaco-10]

30. Did anyone watch Me, Me, ME, ME, ME!!, Meeka, MEEEKA...........

She interrupted everyone with just pure babble, especially willie geist. Joe scumborough wasn't there and she took full advantage of it. She drowned out everybody with pure psycho babble and prattling.

Before I get my ass jumped for watching joe scab, please let me explain. I am early riser and the only alternate is C-Span callers who are either 109 years old or drunk, so I opt to watch (mostly listen) to this train wreck.

[tokenlib]

31. It would drive McCain a little crazy and be entertaining...

..but I don't think there is enough common ground on domestic issues to make it possible for a ticket. Maybe the cabinet...

[panAmerican]

33. Sebelius is my first choice, but I would take Hagel over Clinton as VP

[Shakespeare]

34. Eh, these are the same folks who got all dreamy over the prospect of a Kerry/McCain ticket 4 yrs ago

It won't happen, and they'll all get over it. Strikes me as little more than pundit woolgathering.

[bicentennial_baby]

35. Yeah, i know....it was just a moment of puke-osity for me...

:P

What scares me is the fact that *some* DUers don't see it being much of a problem :scared:

[niyad]

36. note to pundits--we don't CARE which repuke YOU think belongs on a DEM ticket.

you can all go straight to. . . .

[TexasObserver]

37. the pundits tend to get in a circle and blow smoke up each other's asses

and end up with dumb ideas like Hagel as VP

it's an idiotic idea, a non starter

[4themind]

38. If he has to go somewhere

let be secretary of defense...if that

[WA98296]

39. I just saw that too. It made me sick as well. Did you notice they suggested that

he might need a white southern pick, but of course did not mention John Edwards who really freightens Corporate America.

[Cha]

40. I hear ya..but Hagel

better than hilary..although, msnbc pundits will not be choosing Obama's VP:)

[JerseygirlCT]

41. I know. Unbelievable.

Really. Unbelievable. And idiotic.

No, no, and again, no.

And boy could that zap my enthusiasm for Obama! Hagel a heartbeat from the presidency? Could anyone serious about Democratic ideals really be that willing to gamble with my basic human rights?