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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:54 PM
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Hillary's campaign is not about advancing women, it's about advancing Hillary
“Women have been standing up for what we believe in, defying convention and going forward for a long time,” she said.

She also acknowledged that women, including herself, have “experienced a moment along the way when your own sense of limitless possibility collided with a harsher reality.”

“Women face a lot of barriers, some visible, some invisible,” she said. “And in 2008, it’s really important we recommit ourselves to making sure that our daughters and our sons have an equal chance to lead and serve in the future.”

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“I am asking for your support, so that I can continue to fight for you, fight to finish the work that we have started,” she said, before quoting yet another message she received.

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Hillary's endless campaign is certainly colliding with the "harsh reality" that she has lost.

Barbara Ehrenreich

Hillary's Gift to Women

Posted May 12, 2008 | 10:41 AM (EST)

In Friday's New York Times, Susan Faludi rejoiced over Hillary Clinton's destruction of the myth of female prissiness and innate moral superiority, hailing Clinton's "no-holds-barred pugnacity" and her media reputation as "nasty" and "ruthless." Future female presidential candidates will owe a lot to the race of 2008, Faludi wrote, "when Hillary Clinton broke through the glass floor and got down with the boys."

I share Faludi's glee -- up to a point. Surely no one will ever dare argue that women lack the temperament for political combat. But by running a racially-tinged campaign, lying about her foreign policy experience, and repeatedly seeming to favor McCain over her Democratic opponent, Clinton didn't just break through the "glass floor," she set a new low for floors in general, and would, if she could have got within arm's reach, have rubbed the broken glass into Obama's face.

A mere decade ago Francis Fukuyama fretted in Foreign Affairs that the world was too dangerous for the West to be entrusted to graying female leaders, whose aversion to violence was, as he established with numerous examples from chimpanzee society, "rooted in biology." The counter-example of Margaret Thatcher, perhaps the first of head of state to start a war for the sole purpose of pumping up her approval ratings, led him to concede that "biology is not destiny." But it was still a good reason to vote for a prehistoric-style club-wielding male.

Not to worry though, Francis. Far from being the stereotypical feminist-pacifist of your imagination, the woman to get closest to the Oval Office has promised to "obliterate" the toddlers of Tehran -- along, of course, with the bomb-builders and Hezbollah supporters. Earlier on, Clinton foreswore even talking to presumptive bad guys, although women are supposed to be the talk addicts of the species. Watch out -- was her distinctly unladylike message to Hugo Chavez, Kim Jong-Il, and the rest of them -- or I'll rip you a new one.

There's a reason why it's been so easy for men to overlook women's capacity for aggression. As every student of Women's Studies 101 knows, what's called aggression in men is usually trivialized as "bitchiness" in women: Men get angry; women suffer from bouts of inexplicable, hormonally-driven, hostility. So give Clinton credit for defying the belittling stereotype: She's been visibly angry for months, if not decades, and it can't all have been PMS.

But did we really need another lesson in the female capacity for ruthless aggression? Any illusions I had about the innate moral superiority of women ended four years ago with Abu Ghraib. Recall that three out of the five prison guards prosecuted for the torture and sexual humiliation of prisoners were women. The prison was directed by a woman, Gen. Janis Karpinski, and the top U.S. intelligence officer in Iraq, who also was responsible for reviewing the status of detainees before their release, was Major Gen. Barbara Fast. Not to mention that the U.S. official ultimately responsible for managing the occupation of Iraq at the time was Condoleezza Rice.

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CAMPAIGN '08

Hillary Clinton failed to master the female approach, former mentor says

By Robin Abcarian, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
May 12, 2008

ASHLAND, ORE. -- Recently, as New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton campaigned in Eugene, her onetime friend and mentor Jean Houston was at home in her double geodesic dome, a style that is not out of place here in this town of theater lovers and spiritual seekers.

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Houston was not Clinton's spiritualist, but when Clinton was at her lowest -- after the 1994 defeat of her healthcare initiative, the Republican takeover of Congress, seemingly interminable investigations and intense vilification -- Houston, a pioneer of the human potential movement, was something of a secret emotional life raft for the first lady.

The friendship ended after Bob Woodward revealed in a 1996 book that Houston had helped guide a devastated Hillary Clinton in imaginary conversations with her hero Eleanor Roosevelt.

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Houston believes Obama is on the verge of winning the nomination partly because he has promoted himself as the embodiment of a new kind of politics, and partly because Clinton has had trouble portraying her authentic self.
"She is funny, hilarious, generous, warm, given to acts of kindness that are extraordinary," Houston said. "She is a deep woman, not just a very bright woman. But she is part of a dying breed, an archaic sensibility."

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Ironically, Clinton's problem today, Houston said, may be that Obama has given better voice to that new pattern of possibility -- that he embodies a more female, inclusive approach to problem-solving, while Clinton has become mired in proving herself capable of emulating the male model, which requires combat and the demonization of enemies.

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West Virginia Women Announce Endorsements for Obama
Leaders praise Obama’s ability to unite people for change



CHARLESTON, WV—The day after his decisive win in North Carolina and a tight finish in Indiana, women across West Virginia have announced their support for Senator Barack Obama citing his advocacy of women’s issues, successful record of fighting for working families and unique ability to bring people together for change. From the mountains to the Capitol, in small towns and large cities, women are working hard to galvanize support for Senator Obama. Endorsers include Sharon Rockefeller, wife of Senator Jay Rockefeller and Melinda Rahall, wife of Congressman Nick Rahall.

The West Virginia Women for Obama held a kick off reception this week in Charleston, where women gathered to talk about why Obama is the best candidate for women in West Virginia and throughout the country.

“Across the country, we’ve seen Barack Obama’s ability to bring all types of voters together,” said Sharon Rockefeller. “Come November, we will need a candidate who can and will unite this country, not divide it. Barack Obama has proven that he is the right leader for the voters in West Virginia and in America.”

Senator Obama has a long record of standing up for women. As a State Senator in Illinois, Obama co-sponsored and passed the Equal Pay Act, which provided that no employer may discriminate between employees on the basis of sex by paying ages solely on the basis of the employee’s gender. Addressing the needs of more than 19 million women who are uninsured in the country, Barack Obama is committed to ensuring that all Americans have health care coverage by the end of his first term in office as President. In addition, Barack Obama is an original co-sponsor and passed Johanna's Law, which educates women and increase awareness of ovarian cancer -- the fourth-leading cause of cancer-related death among women in the United States.

West Virginia Women for Obama, consisting of elected officials, activists, local community leaders, teachers, attorneys, doctors, mothers and grandmothers, will continue to help organizing support for Senator Obama in the days leading up to the May 13 primary. The women will hold Women for Obama phone banks and will feature a “mother daughter” canvassing events on Mother’s Day.

The following list is more than 130 West Virginia women who today announced their support of Obama, joining thousands of other women across the country who proudly support Barack Obama:

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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 05:58 PM
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1. It is only a gut feeling..
But that is how I read her too. And it took a very long time to come to this conclusion. Reading a whole lot about her, the way she presents herself, and of course reading and listening to what she has written and said.
I was sorry to conclude, it is all about her, not about us.

..That is what I really feel about her.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:00 PM
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3. I learned that when she was my Senator
Her primary campaign erased any doubts about it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:44 PM
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12. Hillary's reputation took a hit (her own fault), that's for sure. n/t
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:56 PM
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18. ITA...and Hillary will drop-kick her women supporters as soon as she doesn't need them anymore. n/t
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:00 PM
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Your post deserves a more thoughtful reply than I am about to give it
It is about advancing all women.

Watch:

Hillary is mortal.

All women are mortal.

Hillary is all women.

All women are Hillary.

Dipso Sum.

(And apologies to Woody Allen)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073312/quotes
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:42 PM
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6. Wouldn't that make Hillary a bigamist? n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:00 PM
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2. That's a GOP talking point
I thought Obama supporters were Democrats? Seems fewer of them are these days, showing their true colors now that they think they have the primary race in the bag....

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:08 PM
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4. No because Hillary isn't a candidate for the nomination any longer
We're not helping the GOP by attacking her.

Y'all (including Hillary) are helping the GOP by attacking Obama.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:32 PM
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8. Ding Ding!!!!!!!1 eom
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:24 PM
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5. Nonsense! It's a fact. n/t
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:00 PM
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7. "Margaret Thatcher, perhaps the first of head of state to start a war for the sole purpose"...
"...of pumping up her approval ratings" is not strictly accurate. Assuming the author is talking about the Falklands war, the Falkland Islands had been considered British territory for a long time and were actually invaded by Argentina so technically, Thatcher didn't start that war, she responded to it. I suspect if there had been a genuine move for independance or union with Argentina within the Falkland Islands (which there wasn't and still isn't), Thatcher would have had a very hard time fighting it.

Granted, Thatcher was a monster but that specific charge is slightly unfair.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:56 PM
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14. Heads of state have been starting wars to bolster their support
since there were states and wars.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:01 PM
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9. sadly yes
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:01 PM
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10. sadly yes
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:01 PM
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11. sadly yes
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:54 PM
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13. "he emobdies a more female, inclusive to problem solving" - exactly.
Here's the link to the Robin Morgan post I wrote last week or so:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5828394
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 01:58 PM
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15. Hillary has a very undeserved ego, built on the success of her husband.
She's been a hanger-on her entire life, a Laura Bush, not a Margaret Thatcher. If she had not been married to Bill, no one would have ever heard of her, except maybe Harriet Miers, since they would likely be big friends.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:03 PM
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16. Big duh. Of COURSE Hillary is not about women's rights. That's too liberal for her.
Hillary is about Hillary. If she were about women's rights, she would speak out more strongly against repression of women in fundamentalist Islamic countries.

On SEVERAL occasions I tried to get responses from Hillary supporters as to precisely what Hillary was going to do about repression of women in such places, and my question were met with stone cold silence. Pfft. Tells you lots.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:48 PM
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17. K & R
:thumbsup:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:05 PM
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19. Please, it is time to stop the in fighting. It is time to go after McShame.
Those that insist on Clinton/Obama wars are damaging the party. Use your enthusiasm to attack McStrange.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:13 PM
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20. Granted, especially since it's all but over
Sadly, the bots on both sides seem determined to keep slugging it out until at least the convention.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:57 PM
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22. I question their motives. nm
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:16 PM
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21. Remember, she's entitled.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:45 PM
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23. Hillary supporter: NARAL endorsement of Obama is "disrespectful" to Hillary

Malcolm blasts NARAL

A rift in the women's movement, as the head of Emily's List -- a key Clinton backer -- attacks Naral for endorsing Obama:

I think it is tremendously disrespectful to Sen. Clinton - who held up the nomination of a FDA commissioner in order to force approval of Plan B and who spoke so eloquently during the Supreme Court nomination about the importance of protecting Roe vs. Wade - to not give her the courtesy to finish the final three weeks of the primary process. It certainly must be disconcerting for elected leaders who stand up for reproductive rights and expect the choice community will stand with them.


You don't understand, Hillary doesn't believe it's her fault she is losing

Hillary is not losing because of sexism.




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