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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:47 PM
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Things to send to your "Christian" hypocrites about helping the poor
I'll never forget a friend of my mother's sending me the story of the ant and the grasshopper, (or one of those bugs that jump around) and how the ant worked and worked and saved and then the winter came and the grasshopper was poor and hungry and the moral of the story was.....(wait for it)....... VOTE REPUBLICAN!

So I found a sight that talks to the Christians about helping the poor. It might be useful to send to some greedy rethugs.


It's a lot longer than what I have put up here. I've cut it down.


http://www.zompist.com/meetthepoor.html

The Bible on the Poor
or, Why God is a liberal
The Bible contains more than 300 verses on the poor, social justice, and God's deep concern for both. This page contains a wide sample of them, and some reflections. It's aimed at anyone who takes the Bible seriously.

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Biblical attitudes for believers toward the poor

So far we've examined only the surface God's commands concerning the poor, what happens if we obey or if we don't. Here we consider the spirit in which we respond. Without some of these correctives, we might make many mistakes serving the poor.

Prov. 29:7. The righteous is concerned for the rights of the poor; the wicked does not understand such concern.

1 John 3:17. But whoever has the world's goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?

Luke 6:33ff. "And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, in order to receive back the same."

2 Cor 9:7. Let each one do just as he has purposed in his heart; not grudgingly or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver.

Mt. 6:2-4. "When therefore you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will repay you."

Mt. 6:24. "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money."

1 Tim. 6:10. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.

Gal. 2:9ff. Recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas and John... gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we might go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. They only asked us to remember the poor-- the very thing I also was eager to do.

Lev. 19:15. "You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you are to judge your neighbor fairly."

Acts 2:44. All those who had believed were together, and had all things in common; and they began to sell their property and possessions, and share them with all, as anyone might have need.

Acts 4:32-35. And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them. And with great power the apostles were giving witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and abundant grace was upon them all. For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales and lay them at the apostles' feet; and they would be distributed to each, as any had need.

Eph. 4:28. Let him who steals steal no longer; but rather let him labor, performing with his own hands what is good, in order that he may have something to share with him who has need.

God's identification with the poor
Like a good king, the Lord is concerned with his poor subjects. In the passages below, we see that His heart goes deeper still: he identifies with the poor; he puts himself in their place.

2 Cor. 8:9. For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Prov. 14:31. He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker, but he who is gracious to the needy honors Him.

Mt. 25:31-46. "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with Him, then He into eternal life."
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:51 PM
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1. THAT is the true Gospel: to do justice, heal the broken-hearted, etc.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:53 PM
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4. I think the smilies just came up because of his use of : and ) 's
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:52 PM
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2. One of the logical implications of "Pro-Life" is that ANY Human Life is more valuable than money. n
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 07:53 PM
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3. My fav... Matthew 25: 40-46
40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:08 PM
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5. I'll give you Rec. #5 even though this is posted in the wrong forum.
DU has a couple of religious forums that might give some interesting responses to your excellent list of Biblical verses concerning the poor. I am sure that there are a good many there who are "Christians", but do not consider themselves to be hypocrites. Also, as much as it pains me to admit, I have known a good many fundamentalists with whom I disagree vehemently on many things, who nonetheless do help the poor. It would be convenient if we could paint all "Christians" whom we believe are hypocrites as some kind of monsters or simply despicable, but the truth is that a good many of them are good people (I am sure there are many here who would be willing to flame me for even suggesting that). Broad brushes usually get paint where it does not belong.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:56 PM
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8. My RW Christian neighbors saved my life
Edited on Mon May-12-08 08:57 PM by truedelphi
While many of my "friends" who I had helped over the yrs let me know that I should have saved more, worked harder, avoided the calamity that is America without the universal Health Insurance, etc, by being as lucky as they always are, my RW neighbors were a different story - they helped me out.

Despite hardly knowing me, they lent me close to $ 3,000. It got me through the three months until the household income had picked up.

I'm sure there are RW "Christians" who aren't Christian, but some people do walk the walk as well as talk the talk.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:07 PM
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11. I think that was wonderful of them. And I think you can remind them
that voting for a Dem stop all people from ending up in the situation you were in.

I wish their were a better way to differentiate between people who actually try and act like Jesus did by helping the poor and sick and needy and the crystal cathedral ones who only care about babies until they are born. I just use "Christian" and Christian and I hope that gets the message through.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:17 PM
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12. Some of these friends are not people that I can talk to abt politics. That is the bad news
I don't think they are ready to ignore their ministers' pro war message and vote Demcoratic.

But at least they kept me alive so that I can vote Democratic. I appreciate that a great deal! That is the good news.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 09:03 PM
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10. That is why I put "" around Christian because real Christians who actually
follow the teachings of Jesus are not judgmental mean people. I believe that Jesus was here and that he taught people. Whether or not he came to earth to free the people of their "sins", (parenthesis again) is not the issue...well I don't think it is. The point is that the ones who call themselves "Christians" and then vote for a person who they know is pro-war is just damn hypocritical in my book. And the ones who call themselves "Christians" and don't want universal health care and universal education and universal good will toward all are hypocrites.

That's all I am trying to say here and I think it is a good thing to mention to the ones who use their vote to encourage NOT taking care of their fellow persons on this earth. Maybe it should have gone in another forum but in this case I am trying to make a political statement.



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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:18 PM
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6. Thank you. Bookmarked and forwarded to my circle of friends.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:31 PM
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7. Thank you for reminding us that poverty is not a stigma for which we should shun our brothers
or call them "ignorant" or "incapable". It is a sign that some of us have strayed from grace and in doing so have forgotten our duty to our fellow human beings. When those we have offended speak out in opposition to their plight, they do so righteously, in the name of all that is holy.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:59 PM
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9. Ooooh, ooooh, oooh; I know this one!!
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