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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:03 PM
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I have nothing bad to say about WV or KY dems
If they go overwhelmingly for Clinton, that does not, de facto, make them racists. I live among poor white, underemployed and undereducated mountain folks, and they voted overwhelmingly for Obama. So I know that being poor, white, underemployed, undereducated and rural doesn't automatically make you a racist. I don't know why Obama has so much trouble connecting with dem voters from Appalachia, but I'm loath to reflexively call it racism.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:04 PM
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1. I just means that they know Hillary better than Obama.
Familiarity.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:05 PM
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2. It is what it is. Some parts of the country aren't going to accept him
Edited on Mon May-12-08 08:05 PM by BrentTaylor
The Good Thing is this thing can be won without those parts of the country.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:13 PM
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5. Why not? (I just like watching people squirm at The Thing Which Cannot Be Said)
:rofl:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:10 PM
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3. Thank you for that. nt.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:11 PM
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4. Me neither.
Let them vote. And let them vote for whichever nominee they think is best.

I am all for letting everyone vote, regardless of the math.

And let all the pundits and critics figure out why the state may go overwhelmingly for Clinton.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:13 PM
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6. what Obama is saying is unite, unite, unite
Hillary is saying segregate segregate segregate
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:18 PM
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10. Well, at least there 5 positive posts before the inevitable (and irrelevant)
crack at Hillary.

My thoughts are that I wish they were able to see that having a Democrat (any Democrat) in the whitehouse is far and away better for their economic interests (not to mention their health) than any Republican.

Hands down.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:16 PM
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7. At one point, I lived in a agrarian-based economy
And yes, it is racism. Some shamelessly say, "I don't know about voting for a black guy." <- This was one of my relatives from the area.

No, not all are racist, but they're not ready to give up the fight that ended 50 years ago.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:24 PM
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12. um, I live in a very agrarian, rural and poor place.
and as I said, people here voted for Obama in the primary. Want to explain that?
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:31 PM
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13. I said not all were racists
some are. Racism is a verifiable element in all of this. But some are also not ready for a Muslim sounding name.

Let's face it: WV is uneducated, poor, and redneck. They swallow this garbage because the average education includes Sunday Bible school and rejection of science. For people who believe the earth is 5000 years old, it isn't hard to make them swallow Hillary's lies.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:17 PM
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8. The MSM is pushing the meme that it's ignorance/racism
they often do embarrassing hit pieces on ordinary citizens. Having them on record saying stuff like, "He's a Muslim. I don't trust one of those." or something like, "His wife is an American-hating atheist." As long as the media pushes that story, other people will assume it's racism.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:18 PM
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9. Hopefully Obama will say otherwise tommorow night.
The people of WV will be watching.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 08:23 PM
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11. He won't address it directly
because Hillary will accuse him of playing the race-card. He'll obviously wait until he wins Oregon if he wants to specifically address his large contingent of white voters. Otherwise, he normally talks about a theme revolving around unity amound all types of people.
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