Obama is weak on the Soviets

[Wetzelbill]

I just don't see him putting much pressure on them. We have to consider the security of our allies in Berlin, it's too risky to have a president who needs training wheels. If it was up to him he'd have direct meetings with Brezhnev and I just think it's capitulation to meet one on one with our worst enemy when they have yet to renounce there invasion of Afghanistan. And with Danny Ortega back in power in Nicaragua, there is a pretty good chance the Soviet tanks could be on our Southwest border in like a day or two if the Soviets chose to mobilize them.

That's something we have to consider. I'm just saying.

[anonymous171]

1. Hillary: I would obliterate the Soviets

[Wetzelbill]

14. I think she would enact a cone of silence

to protect our allies in the region from any Soviet attacks in the first place, so hopefully, it will never come to that.

[Wetzelbill]

38. or possibly "construct" a cone of silence

Nothing can stop her.

[NeedleCast]

102. That's just what we need

More "tough guy" foreign policy.

[midnight armadillo]

67. You forget the pic for the "We will bury you!" line

Link: http://bostodelphia.blogspot.com/2008/04/clinton-to-iran-we-will-bury-you.html

[mcctatas]

2. Grandpa...

is that you? (poor old man went to the big battle in the sky still bitching about the "sovyutz") ;)

[Wetzelbill]

12. oh those old school folks were ingrained with the Cold War

the remnants of the hate is still around. It pops up from time to time. :)

[MnFats]

3. You're quoting Reagan, right?

He had imaginary Russkie tanks rolling into Brownsville, too.

[Wetzelbill]

9. yeah,paraphrasing the general idea

good eye, mate.

[bluetrain]

4. What isn't he weak on? (except Karl Rove's playbook and blank checks)

[anonymous171]

5. Empty promises, like Hillary's Gas Tax pander/lie

[mcctatas]

6. quack quack quack quack quack....

freaking ducks...

[Wetzelbill]

13. I will give you your props for being hardcore

I make a deliberately stupid thread and you still find a way to rip on Obama. That's dedication, my friend.

[blogslut]

7. Russians/Hussians

Tomato/Tomato

huh? :)

[Wetzelbill]

34. exactly

you took the borscht right out of my mouth. I have no clue what I meant by that.

[donheld]

8. Soviets?

Aren't they gone?

[Wetzelbill]

11. that being said the Wetzelbill/Kurovski campaign is the only campaign with a plan

to deal with them. Gone? I say they are hidden.

[Aloha Spirit]

100. You act as if dealing with soviet element is a mere game of hide and seek. They are

INSIDE YOUR HAUS! Stealin your CHANGE!

[Wetzelbill]

114. Ha! I have a futon!

[Aloha Spirit]

120. I bet you made a pact with the communist Swedes to secure it.

[PretzelWarrior]

10. wow. there's a whole genre of books and movies down the tubes

or in massive rewrite after the fall of USSR. amazing. years go by and world events continue to amaze me. latest amazement is the US turning into THEM.

[Wetzelbill]

16. Oliver Stone is already making a film about myself and Kurovski

It's called "W", you know, for "Wetzelbill." Evidently it's about a jocular simpleton who is drunk all the time and is in the vile clutches of his evil vice president. That's me and the K-man for sure.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Not only that, he's positively squishy-soft on the Ottoman Empire and the Spanish Inquisition.

And what's he going to do about all these folks who are getting dragged out of their caves at night by saber-toothed tigers?



The people demand answers.

[Wetzelbill]

17. I plan to hit him hard with those questions during the debates

[Hardrada]

18. Nice kitty, nice kitty....nice kitty (help!!)

[libnnc]

19. He needs to be held accountable for these guys

Obama's softness on "comfy chairs"-gate is troubling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY

[opihimoimoi]

20. MxSane is weak on thinking which is worse.....

[Wetzelbill]

21. well he has extensive experience in these matter dating back to the Civil War

so I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss him.

[opihimoimoi]

72. Whad did he ever LEAD?...He waz a pilot and a POW...no Administration decisions in his life...

He is McSane

[Wetzelbill]

79. The real question is, What did I ever lead?

You think about that for a minute. The choice for president is clear.

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
The Best, We just Can't Prove It

[dionysus]

74. ROFL

[Wetzelbill]

94. I like it when people miss my satire.

:)

[Youphemism]

22. Who's the real pantywaist?

The true leader is clear. I'll let the news articles speak for themselves.

-----------------
ITEM ONE
-----------------
Republicans savage Obama over 'bomb Pakistan' threat
By Tim Reid
Monday August 06 2007

REPUBLICAN candidates for the White House formed an unlikely alliance with Hillary Clinton yesterday when they branded Barack Obama reckless for suggesting he might bomb Pakistan.

"He's gone from Jane Fonda to Dr Strangelove in one week," said Mitt Romney, to applause, during a Republican debate in Des Moines, Iowa. "He went from saying he's going to sit down for tea with our enemies but then he's going to bomb our allies."

-------------------
ITEM TWO
-------------------
Drone-fired missile kills al-Qaida leader
By The Associated Press and The New York Times/Friday, February 1, 2008

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The killing this week of one of al-Qaida's top commanders by a missile from a U.S. Predator drone aircraft could signal an escalation in U.S. covert action aimed at killing terrorist leaders and dismantling their networks in the tribal areas.

[Wetzelbill]

23. that's all fine and dandy, but what's his Soviet policy?

As far as I know, he doesn't have one. He doesn't even acknowledge they're a threat, we can't afford that type of naivete in the White House. The Wetzelbill/Kurovski candidacy are the only ones on top of this issue. Last week Premier Kruschev veritably endorsed Obama. Well good for him, but Wetzelbill is the Soviets worst nightmare.

[Youphemism]

43. Show me the policy *you* like

First, I note that people with an ax to grind just ask questions like, "what's his/her policy"?

You can look it up, just like the rest of us. In case you're unfamiliar with how elections work, a lot of policy details get fleshed out during the general election, when the candidates increase their staff.

If you think that's some kind of "out," please prove your point by providing us with the more detailed policy of another candidate. If you can't do that, you're just spouting.

But, to help provide you with some information you could have just looked up yourself, here ya go..

Where McCain wants to kick the Russians out of the G8 and basically restart the Cold War, here are a few things Obama has done and plans to do:

Encouraging dialogue is a hallmark of Senator Obama's perspective on American foreign policy. Accordingly, he has been the most outspoken candidate on working together with Russia to drastically reduce the two powers' nuclear stockpiles. This vision of nuclear abolition, which Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev nearly negotiated at Reykjavik in 1986, has more recently been supported by luminaries of both parties including Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, and Sam Nunn. Senator Obama has traveled to Russia with Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) to advance the goals of the Cooperative Threat Reduction program and authored legislation with Lugar subsequent to their visit to control the spread of nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union.

Senator Obama has also suggested a full evaluation of the benefits of a missile defense system before rushing toward deployment. Although he has not stated opposition to the program in principle, he appears sensitive to concerns about this program among our Western European allies. Senator Obama's top Russian adviser, Michael McFaul, is well respected for his scholarship on democratization, and U.S.-Russian relations, in particular.

[Wetzelbill]

46. allow me to break character for a second

you are aware that this isn't a serious thread? See I play a dense but lovable empty suit who is running for president. My gay, yet ruthless, VP is a DUer named Kurovski, who is the real power behind the throne. I periodically create moronic threads like this, which are my supposed policy positions.

Here is where it all began, so this might fill you in.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3364192

[Youphemism]

60. Oh

Subtlety is usually lost on these boards. I'm a relatively new poster who is unfamiliar with your background.

My apologies for making you step out of character.

Good luck with your campaign.

[Wetzelbill]

62. no problem

It happens. :) Well as fake campaigns go, we aren't even doing well at faking it. :)

[Youphemism]

69. Coalition Building

FYI, I guess I should mention that my limited travel, near agoraphobic tendencies, and mediocre involvement in international business uniquely qualify me to be an unbiased, dispassionate Secretary of State, should your campaign get to the point of choosing a cabinet.

I'm not gay, but I did once get my hair cut at a beauty salon.

[Wetzelbill]

77. I have promised so many cabinet positions I lost track

So what's another one? You're my Secretary of State. It is written. :)

[Usrename]

24. Tear down that wall!

the wall of confusion

[Wetzelbill]

30. the only confusion is Obama's flip-flopping

I have counted six different positions alone on the Boer War. Consistency matters.

[dkf]

25. They have oil and we don't...sucks to be us.

[Wetzelbill]

29. and it's plain to see detente isn't working

The Iron Fist of Wetzelbill is what's needed. I eat glasnost for breakfast. Then I wash it down with a cool glass of perestroika.

[TomClash]

26. Plus he'd let the damn hippies run wild

And those beatniks with long hair!

[Wetzelbill]

27. oh yeah that's another consideration

[NewHampshireDem]

28. Wetzelbill/Kurovski: Weak on Robots?

Well, Mr. Drunk-and-lying-in-a-ditch, we've yet to hear anything from your campaign about Robots. How are we supposed to believe that you have any chance at all in the GE when you won't give us your plan for the most-cited concern of elderly voters: robots who eat old people's medicine for fuel?

Will you call for universal robot insurance? Will your plan have mandates? Will it truly cover everyone? You and I both know that the American people deserve the best quality robot insurance we can provide--every senior should have access to the same coverage that Dick Cheney has.

Please, won't someone think of the old people!?!?


Is what a Wetzelbill/Kurovski means for your grandpa?

[Wetzelbill]

31. Well, you know, the guy... the person who I really respect on this issue is Dr. Coburn

In fact, I was just reading a paper he gave me the other day on robots. I'll have to look, I'm sure I have a position on it, I'm just not sure what it is, I'll have to look. I'll get bicentennial_baby (my Rove) to look it up and she'll tell me what my position on robots are. I know I have one. But no, I think the only way to prevent robotic diseases is abstinence, that sounds like something I'm for, I'll probably have to have somebody look it up, I think I'm for that though. If the president's policy is for it, I'm for it. I'll get Dr. Coburn's paper. And have my staff tell me my position. Hamas endorsed Obama. Just thought you'd want to know that. Trial lawyers suck too.

[unlawflcombatnt]

32. Obama is weak on EVERYTHING

Except hot air.

[Wetzelbill]

33. well, I wouldn't say everything, I heard he has a fine singing voice

and makes an excellent minibar martini. He's also been known to whistle lonely ballads.

[eridani]

48. Except organizing, campaign management and fundraising n/t

[Wetzelbill]

50. you're just a sore loser. Accept it, I have the nomination wrapped up

:)

[eridani]

52. Not if you insist on having that idiot Kurovski as your VP! n/t

[Wetzelbill]

54. He's the brains behind the whole operation

Which goes to show you how smart I am..... :yoiks:

[eridani]

76. That's what I was afraid of-----n/t

[Wetzelbill]

81. yeah it keeps me up at night myself nt

[against all enemies]

35. He could hire Condoleeeeeeza - She's a Soviet expert and does a

FUCKING GREAT JOB.

[Wetzelbill]

36. he could, I myself trust my "gut" on Soviet affairs

And my gut says that when I go meet with the Soviets during my administration, I'm going to need lots of vodka and probably a shot of penicillin. Oh is that presidential? Nope, but I'm looking to be a different kind of president. I choose to embrace booze, women and mild corruption, and I will break Bush's vacation record in my first term.

[matcom]

37. The "SOVIETS"???

:rofl:

did you take your Geritol this morning?

[Wetzelbill]

39. I had a dream about wolves and bears too

But I need to attack Obama hard on national security matters if I hope to catch him before the convention. As far as I know, I am the presumed nominee though.

[Kaleva]

53. The Kaiser is more of a threat, IMO

Imperial Germany has the most powerful army in the world and its navy is second only to the Royal Navy.

[Wetzelbill]

55. I'm the Kaiser's worst nightmare!

He endorsed Obama last week, after Jimmy Carter went and met with him. I strongly disagreed with that, btw. I think we need to isolate our enemies and make them bitter, and once they are bitter and hate the rest of the world enough, they will join us. See? It's simple. Then we bomb them back to the Stone Age.

[Wetzelbill]

40. Wetzelbill, are you pandering to older voters by playing the Soviet fear card?

Is this all an attempt to cover up that you have a gay running mate and aren't even old enough to run for president? Will Capone and his cronies rule Chicago forever?

[Jamastiene]

41. I'm going to just assume you are joking, right?

For a second there, I had an 80s flashback.

:spray:

[Wetzelbill]

42. there is nothing more serious than protecting the United States from these Communist killers

Now watch this drive!

[lojasmo]

44. He won't provide the sniper fire in Tuzla

You're right about that.

[Wetzelbill]

45. I think if she stays in a few more weeks he might though

[saltpoint]

47. Exactly. We need to bite down hard and beg -- BEG -- Condi Rice to

stay on. She's a Russia expert, you know.

She's the only one keeping Soviet tanks from rumbling through the streets of Tucson.

[Wetzelbill]

49. And I live in Tucson! Ground Zero. It's why I understand the nature of the threat better

than all the other candidates. They seem to not even realize that a Soviet threat exists. I do.

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
Every Chicken Will Smoke Pot

[saltpoint]

51. And thank Jesus you're down there on the front lines, taking the heat.

Keep us safe.

And why does this chicken taste funny?


:thumbsup: :hi:

[Wetzelbill]

56. It's tough, but I am willing to sacrifice

:smoke:

[zulchzulu]

57. No mention either of talks with Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Louis IIV or Sid Vicious

:shrug:

Hillary would take them on because she's TOUGH!

[Wetzelbill]

61. Hillary kind of even scares me and I'm the "Balls" candidate

I never got into the "Change" thing, I just went with "Balls". In fact, James Carville actually borrowed one of mine to give to Hillary who then gave it to Obama. I still have like ten. I probably should get that checked out, that can't be right. I lived under powerlines as a kid.

Sid Vicious the singer or Sid Vicious the pro wrestler? Because I refuse to negotiate with anybody who would blindside Hulk Hogan. He'd have to renounce that.

[newmajority]

83. Sid?? What's Sid gonna do, take over the Afghanistan opium trade?

for his own personal supply.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc4HWiH_pzw

[THUNDER HANDS]

58. and the cylons, don't forget them

what is his plan to deal with the imminent cylon invasion?

[Wetzelbill]

63. He doesn't have one, that's just it

But I do, in detail. Somewhere around here.

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
We Will Obliterate the Cylons

[THUNDER HANDS]

59. and the cylons, don't forget them

what is his plan to deal with the imminent cylon invasion?

[Wetzelbill]

64. So important it had to be said twice

Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
"Balls" We Can Trust (and Xerox)

[Historic NY]

65. I'm be more worried about his "solyent green position"....

as a baby boomer I think its the only way out of the oil/food crisis were having.

[Wetzelbill]

66. I have some in depth policies on that too

I am pro-food growth. And pro-oil finding. And stuff like that. Did you know Hamas endorsed Obama? Oh yeah, they love that guy! And McCain, he's old and crazy.

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
We're anti-anti everything

[myrna minx]

68. What's he going to do about Y2K!11!!!

We're DOOMED! :rofl:

[Wetzelbill]

98. I have a plan for that too

I don't know what it is yet, but I have a plan. Something about the internet being tubes and we need to clean the tubes or something. I'll get back to you on it.

[Bolo Boffin]

70. In Soviet Russia, Obama is weak on YOU. n/t

[Wetzelbill]

96. My campaign hasn't been hurt like this since Scarlett Johansson got engaged nt

[bridgit]

71. Well, in international relations I think it best to be able to offer in-kind...

Obama could take Putin on 'the court' and as MO's brother feels, 'Discover the measure of the man' well...who knows from 'man' but Putin is my point. And Putin could whisk Obama off to a Siberian gulag mere weeks after pinching off natural gas to what used to be his toy states; and illustrate KGB-style black belt take-down judo, after touring a snazzy display of irradiated poisons. You know, stuff less found in the *We're Bearish On Russian Tourism* brochure :thumbsup:

A New World Order platform should contain the same ole give & take.

[Wetzelbill]

97. I plan to look into Putins eyes and see his soul or something like that

Hey it worked for the president I plan to replace, if it ain't broke don't fix it!

[dionysus]

73. Oh yeah? so are you and Kurovski!!! you commies!!! Kurovski is a russian plant!!!!111!!!

Dionysus/Snives '08

[Wetzelbill]

86. Oh what did you say? Because I just heard "Bill Clinton is racist"

And that's the type of negative attacks your campaign is known for. I reject those attacks, as I eat apple pie and hot dogs and drive a Chevy Truck while shooting my gun at Islams. I know Bill Clinton. I have picked up women with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is my friend. And you sir, are no Bill Clinton. And Hamas endorsed you and Obama. Oh.. and I'm paying for this microphone Mr. Green. :patriot:

[CreekDog]

75. "Soviets"? Your post must be in jest.

:crazy:

perhaps you should write about Siam, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. :eyes:

[Wetzelbill]

78. You're just mad because I refuse to get out of the primary

Well guess what, it's my right! Sure, I have no delegates, no popular votes, no SDS.... YET. I'll pull it out.

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
Got Obliteration? We do!

[CreekDog]

121. well you are quite adept at irony

i don't know what to make of you. :shrug:

[Wetzelbill]

122. all you need to know is that I'm worth voting for

A vote for me is a vote for.. something.

[Arugula Latte]

80. Also, he'll switch us over to the metric system in a blink of an eye.

Damn logical system!!! :grr:

[Wetzelbill]

82. I will at least pander to the idea but not go through with it

See that separates my candidacy from his.

[Faygo Kid]

84. Yeah, and if South Vietnam falls, first Southeast Asia, then California, will fall to the commies.

Actually, cretins like Bill O'Reilly think California HAS fallen to the commies.

Or at least think the ignoramuses who follow him will swallow such crap.

[Wetzelbill]

95. and as President, I promise you, I will obliterate California nt

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

85. Fuck that. What's he planning on doing about all those damn Red Coats with muskets standing

outside of my house?

[Wetzelbill]

90. I'm glad you asked that. He has no plan, however

The Wetzelbill/Kurovski plan is to create this giant defense shield, that is in no way practical, cost-effective or even beyond a remote fantasy. This "shield" will protect you from anything and everything that might attack America, even the Red Coats. It will specifically block musket fire, and has the added benefit of enriching my cronies with big contracts. I will call it: "Vic Mackey."

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
Funner Than Coke and Hookers

[Egnever]

87. oh my its like you guys were fed talking points today or something.

[Wetzelbill]

88. no, I absolutely pull my talking points out of thin air

That makes me a "straight-shooter." In politics anyway. Anywhere else in the world it would make me a a fucking moron. Why do you hate America so much?

Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
Bob Barr? Seriously.

[janx]

89. Yes! You have some stiff competition,

Mr. President!

[Wetzelbill]

92. I agree

That I could be a moron and that the nomination is within my grasp. :)

[Thrill]

91. Another example of Democrats using Repuke Talking Points against one of our own

Never thought I would see the day. Now you see it on a regular basis.

[Wetzelbill]

93. Hey Brezhnev endorsed Obama the other day

You guys are all mad at my campaign for pointing it out. I'm the presumptive nominee, Obama lost, get over it. I need to concentrate on McCain from here on out.

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
My Reply Will Make Sense When You Read The Thread

[walldude]

99. The sad part of this thread...

or of GDP in general, is that I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. :shrug:

[Wetzelbill]

101. I ride a fine line, my friend

A fine line.

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08
Balls You Can Trust

[Butch350]

103. You're

Just pulling crap out of your arse. What do you base this meaningless topic on.
Your "HRC" positive aren't you?

[Wetzelbill]

108. I base it on my gut. Why because I am the Balls candidate

and a straight-shooter at that. If HRC and Obama can't take the heat, they need to get out of the kitchen. That's all I'm saying. Why is it that I'm the only candidate in the race with a Soviet policy? Think about that for a minute.

[NeedleCast]

104. Obviouslly it's time for the horde

Once again it is time for my Mongel Horde to go sweeping west towards the Urals. The Soviets have become weak and complacent. Ripe for plunder. Let the spirit of Khan ride again until we reach the shores of the black sea, where, inevitably, one of my own will screw me and stab me in the back. I wont see it coming, as usual.

[Wetzelbill]

106. would you be interested in an Undersecretary of Mongol Affairs

position in my cabinet?

[NeedleCast]

119. Sure, but I should warn you

my chaotic nature makes me capracious, undependable and prone to bouts of rage and/or depression. Usually when that happens I behead a pantalooned royal of some random, local principality. Sometimes that doesn't go over very well at fund-raisers.

We also demand that you find a way to make heavy, square shaped, pelt-clad women and tundra an attractive tourist alternative to warm, sandy beaches

[HEyHEY]

105. I agree, plus with the flow of drugs coming from Panama, we need action.

[Wetzelbill]

109. we are on the same page here

[BlooInBloo]

107. Stupidest post of the year.

[Wetzelbill]

110. I disagree. I think I've made stupider ones, but this somehow gained traction

because some people don't get it. And the ones that do have joined in on it. There is genius in my stupidity, btw.

Vote Wetzelbill/Kurovski '08

[HEyHEY]

111. And you trumped it with your response.... wow, now THAT'S poetic!

[Wetzelbill]

112. To be fair, I am tough to get

especially if somebody isn't familiar with the Wetzelbill/Kurovski campaign. Still, the ones that miss the boat are funny. :) But seriously, I mention Brezhnev in the OP! If that isn't a giveaway I don't know what is, he's been dead forever. :)

[HEyHEY]

113. Well, when it was laid on as thick as this one was - I'm not gonna be flexible

Like, HELLO, who could possibly think you are being serious when you mention "The Soviets"?
Plus, this same dude was being thick in my thread earlier.

[Wetzelbill]

116. Yeah.. seriously... the Soviets?

:rofl:

Sometimes people don't get much past the subject line. That could have been it. :)

[Wetzelbill]

115. Wetzelbill, do you support a blockade of Cuba?

Just what are your plans to take care of Carrot Top? Will the Cubs ever win the Big One?

[madrchsod]

117. you were watching AMC`s "Red Dawn" marathon ......

were`t you? last month they are red dawn for almost three weeks....

[Wetzelbill]

123. No I wasn't

But I wish I did catch it. :)

[jgraz]

118. Any bets on how often McSame will call Russians "Soviets" during this campaign?

[Wetzelbill]

125. I'll go with around 100

[Hansel]

124. Any ideas about how tough he will be on the Persians? nt

[Wetzelbill]

126. I am a little nervous about the possible disruption of the rug trade nt

[Wetzelbill]

127. just to be an asshole I'm going to kick this one last time

:)