CNN: "Majority of Dems want Clinton to be V.P." Charlie Rangel: Scenario would be "terrific"

[Amerigo Vespucci]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/13/majority-of-dems-want-clinton-to-be-vp/

May 13, 2008
Majority of Dems want Clinton to be V.P.
Posted: 11:00 AM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney



(CNN) – Even as the prolonged Democratic presidential race has become more divisive in its final stretch, a majority of Democrats want Barack Obama to choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate, according to a new poll out Tuesday.

A new Gallup poll shows 55 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents surveyed think Obama should offer the New York senator a spot on his ticket. That number is significantly influenced by Clinton's supporters — close the 75 percent of her backers want the No. 2 spot to be offered, while only 43 percent of Obama supporters feel the same.

The poll comes as some of Clinton's highest profile backers increasingly suggest Obama and Clinton should team up for the general election. Speaking in New York Friday, Sen. Chuck Schumer said he at first didn't think such a team was possible but now blives "it could be."

"Hillary and Barack have both run very strong and great races, and I think they'd be a strong ticket together," he said.

Rep. Charlie Rangel, who also backs Clinton, also put his support behind a joint ticket Monday. Speaking on CNN, the New York congressman said such a scenario would be "terrific," adding "I hope it works out that way."

[GarbagemanLB]

1. No thanks. Talk about a weak ticket.

[PoliticalAmazon]

55. 14 Reasons Why Hillary Should NOT Be Considered by Obama for VP:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5935549&mesg_id=5935963

[NightWatcher]

2. Rangel, a Clinton backer wants her to have a job???? no way

[newmajority]

18. Rangel wants her to get the Hell out of New York

Or he thinks he's got a shot at the Senate seat, if she's not in it.

[marylanddem]

3. Rangel just called her "dumb" for her racist comments

What a freaking pol he is. NO WAY should she be let anywhere near the ticket.
And it's certainly NOT TRUE that "a majority of dems" want her on the ticket. He's full of shit.

[Texas Hill Country]

6. no, he said it was a dumb thing for HER to say because it opens her up to attack and that she should

have left it to subordinates.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

38. That sounds dumb.

:shrug:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. funny how the only dems saying this are on her campaign staff

or pledged to support her.

no democrat I know wants to see her anywhere near the WH, except on a senate conference at the WH.

[PoliticalAmazon]

56. "Want to take a swim, Barak? Here's an anvil"....

Another DU poster posted this, and it sums up what I feel about the Nightmare Ticket.

Rangel is certainly a loyal supporter of Hillary. That in and of itself tells me more than I ever thought I knew about him.

[book_worm]

5. I think this is a pretty strong indication that Hill wants VP

but I agree with those who say it wouldn't work, not after the campaign Hillary ran. We are using soundbites of McCain "100 year war" and supporting Bush's economy. They would counter if Hill was on the ticket with Hillary's soundbite that she and McCain are ready to be commander in chief and Obama isn't. Nope, it won't work.

[SoCalDem]

8. and she would let it be known that "she would guide him"

wink-wink..:puke:

[PoliticalAmazon]

57. I do wish they would quit begging. It's embarassing to watch. n/t

[Hope And Change]

7. No!

[Tom Rinaldo]

9. If we trust Obama enough to make him President...

...we should trust him enough to make this call. I supported Clinton in the primaries, but this is Obama's call to make. If he goes with someone else I am sure he has good reasons to, and if he picks her, then I trust he will have good reasons for that as well.

[Texas Hill Country]

17. ummm... i dont trust him to be president, so... what do i do then?

[Tom Rinaldo]

29. OK, in that case lobby hard for whoever you want as VP

I assume you trust Obama to be President more than McCain (correct me if I'm wrong) so whoever Obama chooses should be preferable to the G.O.P. VP pick.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

28. Obama's call to make, then it's the voters' call to make

I agree with you in principle, but it's really the call of the voters.

[Crunchy Frog]

32. Even the best people don't always make smart VP calls.

You remember Gore's running mate in 2000 don't you?

[Tom Rinaldo]

Yep. That was the biggest strike I had against Gore this time around

I knew that Gore took a very different path than Lieberman took after 2000, but it still did not reflect well on Gore that he made that choice back then.

But no one is error free, not even someone who can be a great President. I gotta hope Obama gets this one right.

[Va Lefty]

10. Not that please

haven't we had enough of the Clintons?

[Texas Hill Country]

22. yeah, they must stop fighting for national health care, equal rights, veterans benefits, programs

for the poor, international cooperation, making education more affordable, the economy...


yeah, fuck them!!!

[Va Lefty]

40. I voted for Bill twice

the first time enthusiastically, the second time, not so much. The Clinton Presidency was not good for Democrats. We lost the House under Clinton, lost numerous Governorships and his conduct, (Monica), cost Gore the White House in 2000. I don't want a return of "triangulation" or more treaties like NAFTA or social policies like Welfare "reform". So yeah I'm ready to close the book on them!

[PoliticalAmazon]

59. No use inviting as snake into the egg house, is there? n/t

[yourguide]

11. Big pass Elton John.

[invictus]

12. I would not vote for the ticket if Hillary is on it. Neither will a lot of progressives. n/t

[PBS Poll-435]

13. A unity ticket is the smartest move at this point.

[Bensthename]

20. agreed.

[Egnever]

14. with the race still going clinton supporters still want a spot for her

and some Obama supporters like the idea as well. Wow color me shocked ...not

in the run up to the war 70% or something similarly stupid thought Sadam was responsible for 9-11 also.

Those American people are certainly well informed!

[CoffeeCat]

15. Hillary and her surrogates...

...can babble on and on about what she wants, and how she should have be Obama's running mate.

At the end of the day, it's his decision. It's not up to her, or her bestist friends.

Obama's top surrogates, and other higher-ups in the party--who are closest to Obama--have indicated
that it's not going to happen.

She needs to deal with that...and move on.

Hillary's not entitled to the Presidency, and she's not entitled to a vp position either.

She needs to absorb those realities.

[still_one]

16. It is most likely because they think we won't unify without it

personally I believe a more seasoned VP would be better, but who knows what will happen

The bad blood generated, mostly from the Clinton camp make it highly unlikely in my view

[bowens43]

19. Dumb idea.....the change we need is away from politicians like hillary.

We certainly don't need to validate her way of doing things by rewarding her.

[Bread and Circus]

21. If so, I want the nice, smart Hillary. Not the Penn, Ickes, Wolfson badly managed Hillary.

And she has to leave The Fellowship!

[Life Long Dem]

23. It doesn't matter how many want it.

I think Obama should have the say over who he will be working with by his side in the White House. Obama needs to be able to work with the VP or who knows how things will go. It's something one shouldn't push, unless your out to jeopardize his electability and or his Presidency.

[maddiejoan]

27. He's the Decider!

[AlabamaBrightBlueDot]

24. Hmmm...

Of course, I am only one vote (middle aged caucasian female) but I would not want Mrs. Clinton on any ticket.

As a side note:
I have asked my partner to promise me if I start acting like Mrs. Clinton to get me on HRT as soon as possible.

[BeyondGeography]

25. She has basically said Obama isn't qualified to be commander-in-chief

Which DISQUALIFIES her from being on the ticket.

I wish this bogus speculation would stop, but it won't.

[goclark]

39. Exactly and she has set the tone for

negative campaigning, beyond what I recall in the 60's.

[Doityourself]

26. Weak ticket. need someone with foreign policy and /or military experience

[wileedog]

36. 17 million people just voted for her in a primary

That brings a lot more to the ticket then experience.

Plus she's dealt with snipers! :)

I think its a viable option, despite the hurdles.

[Doityourself]

46. ha ha...the sniper line is very funny..but I disagree...

[peaches2003]

30. The issue for Obama is NOT "the ticket "or the GE

The issue is governance and could he live with her as VP in his administration. Sure, they might get elected, but what about the next 4 yrs and the ability for him to govern effectively. It would not work. Would anyone want Bill and Hillary second guessing every move and promoting themselves and their own agenda. Hillary would suddenly be satisfied being #2, my ass!

[truebrit71]

31. Which is why he is in congress and NOT running Obama's campaign...

...No thanks Charlie!!!

[yardwork]

33. I don't think so. The majority of Dems I know want Hillary to go back to NY.

[dkf]

34. Majority of Obama supporters say "no freaking way"

[Lady-Damai]

35. Fuck no. n/t

[Lucky 13]

37. BULLSHIT.

How does he know what the "majority of dems" want?

I don't want her anywhere near our ticket.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

42. Course, What You Want Hardly Matters To Them.

I'm so hoping the delegates and other party leaders force this to happen. So badly I want to see that!

[Doityourself]

47. Don't hold your breath though...you may turn blue..for real

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

41. Wooooohoooo!!!!! Would Be The Best Ticket Ever. Hope This Keeps Getting Legs To The Point It

becomes the only way.

[shadowknows69]

43. Bullshit

And if they actually do they aren't seeing the big picture.

[JackORoses]

44. She gets nothing.

[cliffordu]

45. This is GENIUS!!! Between the racists and the Clinton haters

that ticket could go down to a defeat unseen in the history of American politics!!

[AtomicKitten]

48. Not.Gonna.Happen

ever

[democrattotheend]

49. I have really mixed feelings about it

If she had won North Carolina and they were at essentially a stalemate, with him having more delegates but her winning all the later contests, I think a Clinton/Obama ticket would have made a lot of sense.

But I am not sure the other way around makes as much sense. A lot of people see Obama as inspiring but inexperienced, and wonder if he is ready to be president. Clinton is seen as a policy wonk who has experience in the White House (though not on national security issues) and has a strong following but high negatives as well. I am not sure putting her on the ticket does much for the perception that Obama is inexperienced. Even though she's been winning the white working class vote for the most part, I am not sure that having her on the ticket would make people who can't bring themselves to vote for a black man any more willing to do so. Also, putting her on the ticket might drive away some support among independents and disgruntled Republicans.

On the other hand, she has a strong following, and putting her on the ticket might help to mollify some of her committed supporters. I know a few weeks ago, when it looked like Clinton might end up being the nominee after all, I felt that I would have a hard time voting for her, but if Obama were on the ticket it would be a no brainer. So I imagine it might be the same way for some Clinton supporters, particularly older women who may feel slighted.

Of course, these are just the electability considerations. There's also the question of whether or not she could play second fiddle as a VP candidate and as VP without undermining him, intentionally or not. Beyond the question of what role Bill would play, they'd have to see if they could agree on strategy and priorities for the campaign and the presidency, or if she is willing to go along with his judgment if she doesn't agree. I don't think they had that rough of a relationship before the past few months, so hopefully they could get along well enough to work together.

[Robbins]

50. Hillary

If she wants VP she should accept reality and drop out tomorrow.Obama could work on reaching out to
Hillary supporters and start full on running against Mccain.This won't happen since she will never
admit she lost.She has praised Mccain,and bashed Obama.Hillary as VP Is a disaster.She could not
attack Mccain like Lieberman was soft on Bush.

[redqueen]

51. I love how they find Hillary supporters who think it's a good idea. Shocking!

Not!

:rofl:

[shaniqua6392]

53. I am for both of our candidates

so I would be really happy if this happened. I can not wait to find out and I think it may happen soon. Awesome!!

[thoughtcrime1984]

52. Yuck

I would fear for Obama's life. I would fear that his message of change really wasn't meant to be. She is more of the same old Washington, that so many want to get away from.

[CakeGrrl]

54. BAD idea. What the MSM pushes is no good for Democrats

I'll post my $.02 every time I see one of these "Dream"/"Unity" ticket suggestions posted.

She drags down the ticket. It might be her final gambit to take him down if she can't have the #1 spot.

Her surrogates are still dissing PDs and SDs who aren't on their side.

She's still looking for dirt on Obama or hoping for an "Act of God" to deliver this nomination to her.

She wants the WH way too much to be #2.

[redqueen]

58. "What the MSM pushes is no good for Democrats" Exactly!

Anyone still not aware of that... well... they should do more thinkin.

[Lilith Velkor]

60. The MSM is only good when it's pushing Obama

Got it. :eyes:

[Eurobabe]

61. NO!

It's not going to happen.