WOMEN'S VOICES WOMEN VOTE TARGETED ME TODAY

[redstate_democrat]

I received a letter today from these people stating that I must change my voter registration. Now, they sent the letter to a property that I own in the same neighborhood, actually it's the next block down, stating I had to change my registration. They also sent the same letter to a family member of mine. Profile: Black woman, early 30s, voted Democratic since I could vote, voted at the same polling place for that entire period, St. Louis, Missouri, neighborhood predominately black and has gone through a bit of gentrification within the past 10 years with lower income families and professionals living side by side.

I scanned the letter and redacted the personally identifying information. They had the ENTIRE THING pre-filled for me. These people are something else! Too bad for them I already voted in my primary back in February. :D

[redstate_democrat]

1. kick

[Jazzgirl]

3. One more K&R

:kick:

[McCamy Taylor]

2. They are trying to get Dems to register to vote in the fall for the nominee (who will be Obama, now)

This is a GE registration effort.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

17. NO THEY AREN'T. Next and past victims:

Voter Outreach Effort Causes Confusion and Panic in Primary States

Officials in at Least Seven States Have Complained About the Group's Efforts
By AVNI PATEL April 30, 2008 A group responsible for misleading automated phone messages to North Carolina voters has drawn the attention and ire of state officials in at least seven other states. Women's Voices Women Vote, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit voter outreach group, says it has been active in 24 states trying to register unmarried women to vote. Mailings and phone calls from the group, however, have confused thousands of presidential primary voters and caused headaches for state election officials.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4758948&page=1

Next victims:

Oregon – Primary Day: May 20, 2008
South Dakota – Primary Day: June 3, 2008
Montana – Democratic Primary: June 3, 2008

http://www.wvwv.org/2008/5/6/women-s-voter-registration-group-responds-to-critics


Arizona. Nov. 13, 2007 In Arizona …election officials were "inundated with complaints" after Women's Voices sent a mailing erroneously claiming that recipients were "required" to mail back an enclosed voter registration form. Many who received the mailing were already registered; the mailing also gave the wrong registration date. Secretary of State Jan Brewer denounced the group's tactics as "misleading and deceptive." “I have serious concerns about this misleading and deceptive mailing and have asked the group to immediately stop sending these letters to Arizona residents,” said Secretary of State Brewer, “These mailings are misleading and deceptive because they indicate that the law requires the recipient to return the application regardless of whether the recipient is already registered to voter or even eligible to register.”
In addition, Sec. Brewer pointed out that the postage paid information is also misleading because it implies that the Secretary of State's office is involved in the effort and is paying for the return postage (“postage will be paid by addressee”), neither of which is true…this mailing may cause someone to register who is not eligible, which is a class 6 felony. Secretary Brewer also noted that the group's website incorrectly lists the deadline for registering to vote in Arizona as “30 days before an election.” The deadline in Arizona is 29 days before each election.
http://www.azsos.gov/releases/2007/pressrelease22.htm?PrintMe=Y

Colorado. Nov 15 2007. A similar mailing in Colorado that month " fire and caused confusion," according to a state press release. “We first found out about the mailing when my office received thousands of voter registration forms the past three days,” said Secretary of State Mike Coffman. “Many of these forms had written comments questioning why they needed to register again or telling us the person has been deceased for years.” Typically, out-of-state groups and mail houses work with the Secretary of State’s office to identify unique voter registration laws and purchase current voter contact information. For instance, WVWV would have learned that registering voters is performed by the county clerk and recorders, not the Secretary of State’s office.
http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/pressrel/voter_registration_mailing_bypassed_11-15-07.html

Wisconsin. February 17, 2008 MADISON, WI – The Wisconsin Elections Division has received hundreds of voter registration forms mailed after the January 30 deadline for the February 19 primary election. By law late forms cannot be processed to place voters’ names in the poll books.

In Wisconsin, state officials singled out Women's Voices for misleading and possibly disenfranchising voters, stating in a press release : "One group in particular -- Women's Voices. Women Vote, of Washington, D.C. -- apparently ignored or disregarded state deadlines in seeking to register voters," sending in registrations past the January 30 deadline and causing "hundreds of Wisconsin voters who think they registered in advance" to actually not be.
http://elections.state.wi.us/docview.asp?docid=13193&locid=47

Michigan February 19, 2008 officials ended up "fielding tons of calls from confused voters" after Women's Voices did a February mailing to "380,000 unmarried women" -- including numerous deceased voters and even more that were already registered. Sarah Johnson of Women's Voices "seemed confused by the confusion," the Lansing State Journal reported. …Many of the mailings had wrong names and addresses, Silfven said. Some were addressed to family pets
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:B8cdHbwqOAMJ:www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article%3FAID%3D2008802190329+%22Ill-conceived+voter+registration+drives+confuse+recipients%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

Florida. March 20, 2008 The latest mailings were part of 688,000 sent two weeks ago in Florida. In January, the organization sent 966,000 such mailings statewide.
A 1.5 million-piece Women's Voices mailing in Florida falsely stated: "To comply with state voting requirements, please return the enclosed application." Pasco County's elections supervisor called it "disingenuous"; another said it created "a lot of unnecessary panic on behalf of the voters," reported local newspapers.
http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22To+comply+with+state+voting+requirements%2C+please+return+the+enclosed+application%22&fr=yfp-t-501&u=www.tampabay.com/SearchForwardServlet.do%3FarticleId%3D426170&w=%22to+comply+with+state+voting+requirements+please+return+the+enclosed+application%22&d=BxP7tzWxQr0_&icp=1&.intl=us
Sarah Johnson of Women's Voice said, "I'm sorry to hear that."
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/mar/21/pa-mailings-confuse-voters/

Arkansas March 23, 2008 Pritchard said her office deals with the Voter Participation Center applications daily. "When they started getting mailed out, we would get boxes of them," she said. That was about the time of the presidential primary, she said…
By March, Women's Voices was backing off the erroneous "registration is required" language, but there were still problems. For example, a mailing in Arkansas allowed that "registering to vote is voluntary," but a clerk in Washington County reported that "the majority sent back to the county come from registered voters, causing needless labor for office employees."
http://www.nwarktimes.com/nwat/News/63400/


Louisiana April 2, 2008 Problems with the group's tactics have also been documented in Louisiana. These national registration forms have been a source of irritation for her staff for two reasons: most people are annoyed when they get a second form, primarily because they are already registered to vote; and people who depend solely on the form as proof of registration are not registered to vote….The national registration form they have sent to Rapides Parish residents is not complete, she said. She said the national form lacks information required by Louisiana law.
http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080402/NEWS01/804020332

Voter registration group slammed for its tactics
Ana Radelat • Gannett News Service • May 7, 2008 …On May 1, the group began mailing more than 160,000 voter registration packets to Louisiana residents..
http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/NEWS01/805070306/1002/NEWS01


North Carolina April 24 and 25, 2008. N.C. residents have reported receiving peculiar automated calls from someone claiming to be "Lamont Williams." The caller says that a "voter registration packet" is coming in the mail, and the recipient can sign it and mail it back to be registered to vote. No other information is provided.

The call is deceptive because the deadline has already passed for mail-in registrations for North Carolina's May 6 primary. Also, many who have received the calls -- like Kevin Farmer in Durham, who made a tape of the call that is available here -- are already registered. The call's suggestion that they're not registered has caused widespread confusion and drawn hundreds of complaints, including many from African-American voters who received the calls.
http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-bogus-nc.asp
N.C. Attorney General Says WVWV Robocalls Illegal
http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/05/nc_attorney_general_says_wvwv.html?ft=1

No mention was made of availability of “same day registration from April 17 through May 3. 182,236 anonymous and illegal robo calls were made to voters in North Carolina.
http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/05/nc-naacp-files-formal-vote-suppression.asp
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/05/02/robocalls/index.html?source=rss


—Primary Day: May 5, 2008 *WVWV is incorrect, primary day is May 6


Kentucky May 06, 2008
Grayson Issues Warning About Voter Registration
Jessica Noll 5/06 Secretary of State Trey Grayson issued a warning to Kentucky citizens that his office has learned that a voting group has sent thousands of potentially confusing mailings to women across Kentucky asking them to register to vote.
These mailings could cause confusion for Kentuckians because the deadline to register to vote in the upcoming May primary has already passed….The State Board of Elections has also heard from voters and from county clerks that WVWV have been sending automated calls encouraging people to register to vote which does not explicitly state that the voter registration deadline has passed for the May primary election.
http://www.kypost.com/content/news/commonwealth/story.aspx?content_id=4ed660a8-1927-41e6-8330-6387bcd9809a



Ohio. Nov. 2007 Robo calls made by fictitious African American male voice of “Lamont Williams” "Hello. This is Lamont Williams. In a few days you should be getting a voter registration form in the mail. Please fill it out and return promptly and you will be able to vote. Thank you." Since the election is Tuesday, the message is nonsensical http://www.buckeyestateblog.com/voter_suppression_in_columbus


Virginia. February 08, 2008 the Virginia State Police, which had investigated similar suspicious robo-calls before that Virginia's primaries last February.
http://wamu.org/news/08/02/08.php
http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-bogus-nc.asp

Their investigation concluded that the source of the calls was Women's Voices Women Vote
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/News/2008/news_release_02-08-08_NR-5.shtm

South Dakota. May 07, 2008 Secretary of State warns against bogus mailings
By Journal staff Wednesday, May 07, 2008
Secretary of State Chris Nelson is warning South Dakotans that a Boston organization called the "Voter Participation Project" is sending mailings into South Dakota, saying residents -- under "state law" -- must re-register to vote. The mailing lists the Secretary of State's address, adding the appearance of credibility.
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2008/05/07/news/local/doc4821fb86d39e6122252733.txt#blogcomments

Fake Voter Registration Hoax By Caitlin Haedicke
May 8, 2008 Some South Dakota residents have been receiving fake voter registration letters and our Secretary of State is warning you not to respond.
http://www.ksfy.com/news/local/18778844.html
South Dakota’s democratic primary is June 3.

West Virginia Friday May 9, 2008
Secretary of State says mass mailing has caused confusion
The Secretary of State's office is reminding first-time voters that the deadline to register to vote in Tuesday's primary already has passed.
Betty Ireland said she's worried that a mass mailing aimed at getting young women in West Virginia to register to vote might cause confusion.
http://www.dailymail.com/News/election08/200805090050
The democratic primary is May 13.

Above from Facing South http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-dc-nonprofit.asp

Proof of Communications
by PageGardner
Mon May 05, 2008 at 02:56:04 PM PDT
Update <2008-5-6 19:11:48 by PageGardner>:
There seems to be many questions related to the 'robo' call itself that we made and the press release we distributed preceding our mailing, here is our best attempt to answer some of them
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/5/174914/2663/907/509637

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

22. FL: created "a lot of unnecessary panic on behalf of the voters,"

Florida. March 20, 2008 The latest mailings were part of 688,000 sent two weeks ago in Florida. In January, the organization sent 966,000 such mailings statewide.
A 1.5 million-piece Women's Voices mailing in Florida falsely stated: "To comply with state voting requirements, please return the enclosed application." Pasco County's elections supervisor called it "disingenuous"; another said it created "a lot of unnecessary panic on behalf of the voters," reported local newspapers.
http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22To+comply+with+state+voting+requirements%2C+please+return+the+enclosed+application%22&fr=yfp-t-501&u=www.tampabay.com/SearchForwardServlet.do%3FarticleId%3D426170&w=%22to+comply+with+state+voting+requirements+please+return+the+enclosed+application%22&d=BxP7tzWxQr0_&icp=1&.intl=us

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

23. Arkansas "the majority [of forms] sent back to the county come from registered voters

Arkansas March 23, 2008 Pritchard said her office deals with the Voter Participation Center applications daily. "When they started getting mailed out, we would get boxes of them," she said. That was about the time of the presidential primary, she said…
By March, Women's Voices was backing off the erroneous "registration is required" language, but there were still problems. For example, a mailing in Arkansas allowed that "registering to vote is voluntary," but a clerk in Washington County reported that "the majority sent back to the county come from registered voters, causing needless labor for office employees."
http://www.nwarktimes.com/nwat/News/63400/

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

24. Virginia State Police, which had investigated similar suspicious robo-calls before that Virginia's p

Virginia. February 08, 2008 the Virginia State Police, which had investigated similar suspicious robo-calls before that Virginia's primaries last February.
http://wamu.org/news/08/02/08.php
http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-bogus-nc.asp

Their investigation concluded that the source of the calls was Women's Voices Women Vote
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/News/2008/news_release_02-08-08_NR-5.shtm

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

25. South Dakota Secretary of State warns against bogus mailings

South Dakota. May 07, 2008 Secretary of State warns against bogus mailings
By Journal staff Wednesday, May 07, 2008
Secretary of State Chris Nelson is warning South Dakotans that a Boston organization called the "Voter Participation Project" is sending mailings into South Dakota, saying residents -- under "state law" -- must re-register to vote. The mailing lists the Secretary of State's address, adding the appearance of credibility.
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2008/05/07/news/local/doc4821fb86d39e6122252733.txt#blogcomments

Fake Voter Registration Hoax By Caitlin Haedicke
May 8, 2008 Some South Dakota residents have been receiving fake voter registration letters and our Secretary of State is warning you not to respond.
http://www.ksfy.com/news/local/18778844.html

[Writer]

52. This is their evil reply to SD's governor on their evildoings.

They seem so evil :sarcasm:

http://www.wvwv.org/2008/5/14/leading-national-voter-registration-group

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

26. WVa Secretary of State says mass mailing has caused confusion

West Virginia Friday May 9, 2008
Secretary of State says mass mailing has caused confusion
The Secretary of State's office is reminding first-time voters that the deadline to register to vote in Tuesday's primary already has passed.
Betty Ireland said she's worried that a mass mailing aimed at getting young women in West Virginia to register to vote might cause confusion.
http://www.dailymail.com/News/election08/200805090050
The democratic primary is May 13.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

27. KY SOS Grayson Issues Warning About Voter Registration

Kentucky May 06, 2008
Grayson Issues Warning About Voter Registration
Jessica Noll 5/06 Secretary of State Trey Grayson issued a warning to Kentucky citizens that his office has learned that a voting group has sent thousands of potentially confusing mailings to women across Kentucky asking them to register to vote.
These mailings could cause confusion for Kentuckians because the deadline to register to vote in the upcoming May primary has already passed….The State Board of Elections has also heard from voters and from county clerks that WVWV have been sending automated calls encouraging people to register to vote which does not explicitly state that the voter registration deadline has passed for the May primary election.
http://www.kypost.com/content/news/commonwealth/story.aspx?content_id=4ed660a8-1927-41e6-8330-6387bcd9809a

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

29. NC Atty General says WVWV's robo calls illegal

North Carolina April 24 and 25, 2008. N.C. residents have reported receiving peculiar automated calls from someone claiming to be "Lamont Williams." The caller says that a "voter registration packet" is coming in the mail, and the recipient can sign it and mail it back to be registered to vote. No other information is provided.

The call is deceptive because the deadline has already passed for mail-in registrations for North Carolina's May 6 primary. Also, many who have received the calls -- like Kevin Farmer in Durham, who made a tape of the call that is available here -- are already registered. The call's suggestion that they're not registered has caused widespread confusion and drawn hundreds of complaints, including many from African-American voters who received the calls.
http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-bogus-nc.asp
N.C. Attorney General Says WVWV Robocalls Illegal
http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/05/nc_attorney_general_says_wvwv.html?ft=1

No mention was made of availability of “same day registration from April 17 through May 3. 182,236 anonymous and illegal robo calls were made to voters in North Carolina.
http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/05/nc-naacp-files-formal-vote-suppression.asp
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/05/02/robocalls/index.html?source=rss

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

31. Louisiana - WVWV sending wrong registration form to voters and who are already registered to vote

Louisiana April 2, 2008 Problems with the group's tactics have also been documented in Louisiana. These national registration forms have been a source of irritation for her staff for two reasons: most people are annoyed when they get a second form, primarily because they are already registered to vote; and people who depend solely on the form as proof of registration are not registered to vote….The national registration form they have sent to Rapides Parish residents is not complete, she said. She said the national form lacks information required by Louisiana law.
http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080402/NEWS01/804020332

Voter registration group slammed for its tactics
Ana Radelat • Gannett News Service • May 7, 2008 …On May 1, the group began mailing more than 160,000 voter registration packets to Louisiana residents..
http://www.theadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/NEWS01/805070306/1002/NEWS01

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

34. Michigan: "fielding tons of calls from confused voters" (registered voters & family pets getting)

Michigan February 19, 2008 officials ended up "fielding tons of calls from confused voters" after Women's Voices did a February mailing to "380,000 unmarried women" -- including numerous deceased voters and even more that were already registered. Sarah Johnson of Women's Voices "seemed confused by the confusion," the Lansing State Journal reported. …Many of the mailings had wrong names and addresses, Silfven said. Some were addressed to family pets
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:B8cdHbwqOAMJ:www.lansingstatejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article%3FAID%3D2008802190329+%22Ill-conceived+voter+registration+drives+confuse+recipients%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

35. Wisconsin - mailers causing voters to think they are not registered in advance

Wisconsin. February 17, 2008 MADISON, WI – The Wisconsin Elections Division has received hundreds of voter registration forms mailed after the January 30 deadline for the February 19 primary election. By law late forms cannot be processed to place voters’ names in the poll books.

In Wisconsin, state officials singled out Women's Voices for misleading and possibly disenfranchising voters, stating in a press release : "One group in particular -- Women's Voices. Women Vote, of Washington, D.C. -- apparently ignored or disregarded state deadlines in seeking to register voters," sending in registrations past the January 30 deadline and causing "hundreds of Wisconsin voters who think they registered in advance" to actually not be.
http://elections.state.wi.us/docview.asp?docid=13193&locid=47

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

37. Colorado: mailing drew fire and caused confusion. Went to registered voters & long dead people

Colorado. Nov 15 2007. A similar mailing in Colorado that month " fire and caused confusion," according to a state press release. “We first found out about the mailing when my office received thousands of voter registration forms the past three days,” said Secretary of State Mike Coffman. “Many of these forms had written comments questioning why they needed to register again or telling us the person has been deceased for years.” Typically, out-of-state groups and mail houses work with the Secretary of State’s office to identify unique voter registration laws and purchase current voter contact information. For instance, WVWV would have learned that registering voters is performed by the county clerk and recorders, not the Secretary of State’s office.
http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/pressrel/voter_registration_mailing_bypassed_11-15-07.html

[Writer]

42. How can receiving a mailer today...

disenfranchise her from participating in a primary that already occurred?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

44. did you read anything I posted? I guess not.

I'll leave it to the others to comprehend.

This group has plagued the country with deceptive mailers at the wrong time.

They have been asked to stop.

They give improper instructions to the recipients.

They get more money in grants if they can "show" that they are mailing lots of people.

They mail childrend and even family pets as well as dead people.

This is not how a voter registration group operates.

[Writer]

45. What about this mailer will disenfranchise the person who uses it?

When it's sent in May, months after the primary and months preceding the Nov. general elections?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

47. why are you ok with misleading voters? Answer these questions

1. Tell me why you think its ok for this group to send registration forms, forms which
are not legal in all states by the way - to PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY REGISTERED?

2. Tell me why its ok with YOU that WVWV sent a mailer with misleading and deceptive
information to the voter who posted this OP?

3. Tell me why its ok for this state to create havoc and confusion in state after state,
after complaint after complaint by election officials?

4. Tell me why you are ok with a "voter registration" group participating in
a lot of deceptive and in some cases illegal actions.

5. Tell me why its ok for WVWV to cause election officials to be flooded with
these registration forms, mostly for people who ARE ALREADY REGISTERED?

[Writer]

51. One more time: tell me how this mailer is will disenfranchise voters so far out from the general

election.

Please.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

38. AZ SOS: "inundated with complaints" and "misleading and deceptive."

Arizona. Nov. 13, 2007 In Arizona …election officials were "inundated with complaints" after Women's Voices sent a mailing erroneously claiming that recipients were "required" to mail back an enclosed voter registration form. Many who received the mailing were already registered; the mailing also gave the wrong registration date. Secretary of State Jan Brewer denounced the group's tactics as "misleading and deceptive." “I have serious concerns about this misleading and deceptive mailing and have asked the group to immediately stop sending these letters to Arizona residents,” said Secretary of State Brewer, “These mailings are misleading and deceptive because they indicate that the law requires the recipient to return the application regardless of whether the recipient is already registered to voter or even eligible to register.”
In addition, Sec. Brewer pointed out that the postage paid information is also misleading because it implies that the Secretary of State's office is involved in the effort and is paying for the return postage (“postage will be paid by addressee”), neither of which is true…this mailing may cause someone to register who is not eligible, which is a class 6 felony. Secretary Brewer also noted that the group's website incorrectly lists the deadline for registering to vote in Arizona as “30 days before an election.” The deadline in Arizona is 29 days before each election.
http://www.azsos.gov/releases/2007/pressrelease22.htm?PrintMe=Y

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

40. NPR: Follow the Money Trail and Political Connections for Women's

NPR: Follow the Money Trail and Political Connections for Women's ...

graphic showing who's who in Women's Voices, Women Vote. Close Window.
www.npr.org/news/images/2008/may/01/wvwvchart.html

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

41. Ohio: robo calls by fictitious African American male "Lamont Williams"

Ohio. Nov. 2007 Robo calls made by fictitious African American male voice of “Lamont Williams” "Hello. This is Lamont Williams. In a few days you should be getting a voter registration form in the mail. Please fill it out and return promptly and you will be able to vote. Thank you." Since the election is Tuesday, the message is nonsensical http://www.buckeyestateblog.com/voter_suppression_in_columbus

[blm]

49. Why choose confusing ways to do it and right when primaries are occurring in those states?

Any honest organization would seek the most simple presentation so as NOT to confuse voters.

Any honest organization would search for the BEST OPTIONS for easy registration state by state and add those to their mailers.

This is NOT an honest organization - not since Iowa.

[Aloha Spirit]

4. Wow... so, you can leave feedback here:

http://www.voterparticipationcenter.org/contact.php

[Aloha Spirit]

5. I gave them my constructive criticism based on your mailer.

[redstate_democrat]

6. Thanks

I don't understand why they would be sending me something like this when I have voted in every election since I could vote, local, referendums, state wide, presidential elections, etc. I JUST voted. All I KNOW is that my name better not be removed from the voter rolls for my precinct or there will be hell to pay.

[Aloha Spirit]

7. Well, all I can say is, that is EXACTLY why a private foundation should not be doing this.

[Texas Hill Country]

8. i dont understand why that is bad... it says IF YOU HAVE MOVED...

i dont get it?


why is that misleading?

[redstate_democrat]

10. Well for one, I haven't moved and for two, I'm a very active voter.

This causes confusion for people. How did they get my information and why did they send it to an address I don't live at?

[yardwork]

28. If she had filled it out and mailed it, she might become ineligible to vote.

This tactic actually tricks people into "changing" their registration, thus making their current registration void. If the voters who receive these mailers send them in after the deadline to change their registration, they will be removed from the current rolls and their status will be in limbo for a period of time - long enough to get them turned away at their polling place the next time they show up to vote.

It's a way of making people temporarily ineligible to vote. The effect lasts just long enough to keep them from voting in the primary. The mailers are sent to predominately African American neighborhoods right after the voter registration deadline in states with Democratic primaries.

Now, why would anybody want to reduce the number of African Americans eligible to vote in an upcoming Democratic primary? Hmmmm.....

[Writer]

39. It's May.

She has a long way to go before the November election.

BTW: Didn't Missouri vote on Feb. 5th?

[OzarkDem]

9. Why is this considered controversial?

They're sending out reminders to people to let them know that if they moved since the last time they voted, they can use the enclosed form to update their voter registration information.

Seems like a good thing to do, so people don't end up getting turned away on election day because their address is changed.

:shrug:

[redstate_democrat]

11. The problem here is that I haven't moved, my situation has been the same for several years

as far the property goes, and I am an active voter. Yes, the premise seems nice, but I don't put much stock in that knowing what they did in North Carolina and other states.

[OzarkDem]

13. Its a mass mailing to the area

They're probably choosing neighborhoods where many women voters were not allowed to vote last time because they had moved.

Changing voter registration information when one moves is a problem for working women who are already busy and don't think of doing it until election time - when its too late. I've volunteered at a number of campaign offices and its common for people to call or come by at the last minute trying to find out how they can register or update their registration. Most people don't know they can't change it at the last minute and local election boards don't always do a good job of getting word out to the public.

My guess is they're targeting women in neighborhoods where people often change addresses. They don't have access to information about how long you've been living there, so they just mail to everyone. Women who are new in the neighborhood will get the mailer and change their registration. People who don't need to change, like you, can just throw it out.

Its pretty self explanatory - IF you have moved, send in the form.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

15. they are sending deceptive mailers across the US, SOS are complaining

but they keep doing it anyway.

In some states the forms they are sending are incomplete or illegal.

In some states the law does NOT require you to re register when you move.

They couldn't do a worse job than what they are doing.

They send the mailers out AFTER the registration deadline and just before the primary.

Do you not understand voter supression?

The Attorney General of North Carolina has warned them not to make
any more of their anonymous robo calls, which are illegal in our state.

They are currently under investigation.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

21. WVWV has been asked to stop by many SOS across the United States

the mailers create alot of harm and not much good.

We don't know that any of the people they have targeted are actually not registered.

They seem happy to mail these to anyone. They can then claim they
send out all of these mailers when asking for grant money.

And then their BoD member's businesses can get contracts from WVWV.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

20. ANONYMOUS robo calls targeting African Americans in North Carolina

They have two different robo calls, one is a white woman's voice.
It tells the listener that a registration form is in the mail, to please complete it and
mail it in.

The other voice is a fictitious black male named Lamont Williams, and he
says the same as the white woman's voice EXCEPT that he advises that you must
first complete the registration form, mail it in and THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE.

This creates confusion because the calls seem to be mostly going to people who
are ALREADY REGISTERED TO VOTE. The calls infer that the person cannot vote,
and this is during our early voting period and before our final election day.

THE CALLS DON'T TELL NC VOTERS THAT THEY CAN REGISTER DURING EARLY VOTING IF THEY
AREN'T ALREADY REGISTERED.

THE CALLS COME IN DURING THE EARLY VOTING PERIOD, WHEN SAME DAY REGISTRATION IS AVAILABLE.

BUT NO MENTION OF THAT, JUST THE INFERENCE THAT THE PERSON CAN'T VOTE.

[anigbrowl]

46. Because it creates the impression that the voter's current registration is somehow flawed.

After all, if you are currently registered to vote and haven't moved, why would you be receiving a reminder that you need to register to vote? Don't be disingenuous, you know perfectly well what's wrong with it.

[SoCalDem]

12. If you do NOT send it back, will you get dropped from the rolls?

I would call the registrar's office *& check that out.. If this is a caging device, where non-return signifies you are no longer living there and are subject to dropping, then this is a bad thing.. If it's just a reminder, it's no biggie..

I would still call though

[OzarkDem]

14. No, that's impossible

The mailer wasn't sent by the Board of Elections, just a non-profit group trying to register women voters. The non-profit has no power to affect someone's registration.

I do find it odd that this organization, which is doing good, legitimate work, is being unfairly targeted. Very Rovian.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

18. Its Rovian that this group has raised complaints from SOS around the country

and persists in breaking laws, ignoring registration deadlines, and
makes no effort to work with election officials.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

16. they are mailing these to family pets, children, dead people:

WVWV gives some of their contracts to the businesses of their BoD members.

So the more crap they send out, the more money their BoD members make.

[NashVegas]

19. "IF YOU HAVE MOVED, YOU MUST UPDATE YOUR VOTER REGISTRATION TO VOTE"

Well, have you moved?

Did you update your registration after you moved?

[FlaGranny]

30. Reading comprehension? n/t

[Writer]

32. I don't think this is what you think this is.

This is a mailer informing you that if you have moved, you must register to vote in your new area.

It does not tell you how to register, or for what party you should register, it just reminds you to re-register if you have moved.

It's a GOTV campaign.

The organization in question is not as malignant as they've been made out to be.

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36. after what they did in NC

I guess they have to keep this up to look like they have only the best of intentions.

Especially as they are being investigated.

[npincus]

43. Shouldn't this kind of form come from one's local Board of Elections?

How strange to get something like that out of the blue.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

48. says postage paid and addressed to states' SOS

which misleads the voters to think the form came FROM their SOS.

Worse, in most states, it is at the county level that registration forms are processed.

Additionally, some states don't use the forms that WVWV is mailing, or the forms
do not contain all of the information necessary.

[Spazito]

50. They have been told OVER and OVER how confusing their mailings are...

state after state after state. If they actually were trying to be helpful, they would have STOPPED doing this after the first time they were told how disruptive and potentially harmful their confusing mailings were. Instead, they continue to send them and, when called on it, apologize, say they will change and do EXACTLY the same thing in the next state.

They need to be stopped and then investigated, imo.

[dailykoff]

53. All filled in.

They never miss a trick do they.

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