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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:44 PM
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Was it a mistake for Obama not to campaign more in West Virginia?
Discuss.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:45 PM
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1. Some 40,000 voters in the Democratic Primary.
Edited on Tue May-13-08 07:46 PM by tekisui
Less than a drop in the bucket.

He was there, he went there a few times. No biggie.

on edit: It could be more, I'll wait to make a number statement again.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:45 PM
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2. yes...he gave up about 1.2% of potential primary votes in his favor...
gonna cost him BIG....some say
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:45 PM
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3. by the numbers, it doesnt look
like he needed too....she was expected to win...

he'll campaign there for the GE....jmo...
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:47 PM
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4. No. He needs the money to pay off the Clinton Mafia's debt to Jabba the Penn
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:47 PM
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5. It depends on the turnout.
If turnout is small, then no. If it was huge, then yes he should have spent a couple of days there. I don't think he could have improved his margins by much, but he would be setting up a tent for the fall in doing so. This is a dem v. dem race and Hillary Clinton gets the benefit of having Clinton has her husband, with that name familiarity, legacy they have. Then look at the demographics...these are people TAILOR made for Hillary.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:48 PM
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6. After hearing how some of the people talk there
I wouldn't of spent more than a day there
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:49 PM
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7. Hard to say, I guess I wish he'd had spent one more day there
and he should spend a day or two in Kentucky this week. I would like him to continue to work towards the 50 state initiative. She'd win by a ton regardless, but the message that he is interested in every nook and cranny in the nation is a sound message to send the electorate.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:49 PM
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8. No. He did campaign there. He's saving his money for McCain.
And Obama will wind up having to pay for Hillary's campaign in West Virginia which was run on borrowed money. How the irony of that? Obama bought Hillary's victory.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:02 PM
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22. How can you keep making that charge
when it's entirely made up?
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:50 PM
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9. Yes, he really should of spread some of that money around.
He can make an impression that way....he didn't and that insulted the state.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:50 PM
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10. no.
it would be a big loss no matter what. Better to focus resources somewhere else.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:50 PM
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11. If Indiana hadn't turned out the way it had, yes.
It was a gamble.

He didn't stand a chance in WV, so it was best not to be seen trying.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:51 PM
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12. Frankly, yes
I think it will make it difficult for Obama to now convince the voters in WV that he really does give a rat's ass about them. He should have gone, whether the numbers were there for him or not.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:51 PM
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13. At first I thought so, but he's taking control over the calendar. That's good right now.
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Austinitis Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:51 PM
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14. Yes, and he's paying for it now...
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:55 PM
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19. Absolutely.
Hillary is going to have a lead in the pledged delegates soon of WV. When do yo think that will happen? I am not sure, but all I know is that the TIDE IS TURNING! And even though primaries have nothing to do with general elections, her win in WV means Obama will lose in November. And even though Obama demolished her in states like ID and KS and Utah, Obama has a problem with whites, and whites are the most important voters out there!

Hillary/ Baghdad Bob 08!
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:52 PM
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15. Was it a mistake for Hill not to campaign in KS, MN, ND, UT, LA, NE, WA,
CO, ID, GA (as much campaigning as Obama did in WVA), WY and other states that she ignored? Discuss.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:52 PM
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16. I think it is as irrelevant as Hillary's win there.
West Virginia will be in the McCain column in November even if Hillary were to, somehow, win the nomination.

It's only important in the imaginings of the last-gaspers in Hillary's following and the media who see more sales of beer and toothpaste by drawing out a lost campaign of an also-ran.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:52 PM
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17. waste of time...no one was going to vote for him in the primary
nor in the general election...they do`t like black folks in west virginia
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:53 PM
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18. it depends on how the press decides to spin it
If the MSM goes with the line that WV doesn't matter, then Obama's strategy will pay off. If the margin of victory gets close to 40 points, then the press may have to pay attention, and Obama's strategy of not campaigning there will look bad.

Obama did put a lot of resources into the state, btw. He outspent HRC, had more campaign offices and more staff instate. Still - him campaigning there would have netted him more votes probably than what he's getting.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:57 PM
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20. He campaigned in WV
Granted not much. What is to discuss?
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:00 PM
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21. I think not..
and if I were him, I wouldn't waste a lot of resources there in the fall either. I would go in, make a few stops, and make my case. There are other far more states he needs to devote his time and $ to, Florida for example.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:03 PM
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23. Nope
Selling change in WV is like selling Hillary nutcrackers on HillaryClintonforum.net
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:04 PM
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24. He's campaigning against McCain now
Going to WV would have forced the media to continue covering the "Dem Primary" if he were engaged in it. He isn't, so the media was able to move on. Very smart on his part.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:05 PM
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25. He's gliding through the rest of this protracted nomination & turning his sights on McCain.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:05 PM
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26. No. nt
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:06 PM
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27. IMO yes
Edited on Tue May-13-08 08:08 PM by Marie26
He's going to have to try to win over these voters in the general election, & skipping the state just reinforces the impression that he doesn't care about working-class voters. Even if he doesn't win the state, appearances would help to gain more trust & show that this demographic is important to the Democratic Party. WV went for the Republicans in 2000 & 2004, and Obama needs to win them back.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:07 PM
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28. I think so, yes...If nothing but for the appearance
To me, it appeared that he was just blowing WV off. I mean, I know and he knew that he wasn't going to win, but he should have been there instead of in Missouri or whatever. I'm a little disappointed, to be honest.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 08:07 PM
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29. No
He wasn't going to win it anyway, and at this stage in the game it probably doesn't matter.
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