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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:16 AM
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Finding Obama guilty of insufficient devotion to Israel
Finding Obama guilty of insufficient devotion to Israel

By Glenn Greenwald


The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg conducted what he's calling an "interview" with Barack Obama regarding Israel, but it sounded much more like an inquisition. Goldberg repeatedly demanded that Obama swear his devotion to Israel and affirm prevailing orthodoxies ("I'm curious to hear you talk about the Zionist idea. Do you believe that it has justice on its side?"; "Go to the kishke question, the gut question: the idea that if Jews know that you love them, then you can say whatever you want about Israel, but if we don't know you –- Jim Baker, Zbigniew Brzezinski –- then everything is suspect. There seems to be in some quarters, in Florida and other places, a sense that you don’t feel Jewish worry the way a senator from New York would feel it"; "Do you think that Israel is a drag on America's reputation overseas?"; "If you become President, will you denounce settlements publicly?"). Afterwards, Goldberg pronounced himself satisfied: "Obama expressed -- in twelve different ways -- his support for Israel to me."

Marty Peretz, after a telephone conversation with Obama devoted primarily to Israel, similarly clears Obama of any suspicions of disloyalty, approvingly noting that Obama "recognizes" that Israeli settlements of the West Bank are not "the core problem" for the conflict with the Palestinians (to Peretz, such settlements "are very much a side-issue"). Peretz further decrees that Obama's "exhilarating experience with American Jews and with their bonds to the dream and realities of Israel" was evident in both Goldberg's interview and in Obama's call with Peretz.

Needless to say, Obama's vows of devotion to Israel were not enough for the right-wing polemicists who endlessly play on the fears of American Jews and exploit Israel-related issues for political gain. GOP leaders in the House -- such as Minority Leader John Boehner -- issued highly inflammatory statements regarding Obama's interview with Goldberg, condemning Obama for describing Israel as a "constant sore" when, in fact, Obama used that term to describe the Israeli-Palestinian conflict -- not Israel (that lie by Boehner and others was so severe that Goldberg, to his credit, embraced Andrew Sullivan's description of Boehner's statement as a "flat-out lie" and added that it was "mendacious, duplicitous, gross, and comically refutable"). \

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Barack Obama runs around proclaiming his devotion to this other country; virtually wraps himself in its flag; vows to shun its enemies (who are not our enemies); is forced ritualistically to "express[] -- in twelve different ways -- his support for Israel" to the likes of Israel-centric war supporters like Jeffrey Goldberg and Marty Peretz; tells Palestinians to their faces that -- to use his words -- "if you're waiting for America to distance itself from Israel, you are delusional"; affirms every one-sided piety applied to Israel-related issues; has compiled large numbers of prominent Jewish supporters for whom Israel is a top, if not the top, issue; and still . . . the dominant narrative among neocons and in the establishment media is that, deep down in his heart, he may be insufficiently devoted to Israel to be President of the United States. Has there ever been another country to which American politicians were required to pledge their uncritical, absolute loyalty the way they are, now, with Israel?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/13/obama/index.html
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:22 AM
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1. We don't have the power to protect Israel anymore.
We spent all our $ and ruined our military on Iraq.

Sorry guys, you are on your own.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:24 AM
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2. not quite, not soon enough. we still make and sell them
the illegal bomblet shells, the ones that maimed and murdered thousands of lebanese children after being used by the IDF.


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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:28 AM
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3. Ruined our military?
Quit drinking the media Kool-Aid.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:41 AM
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5. Oh, and our equipment and staffing is just fine?
We are grinding our equipment down in the sand of Iraq. Sad but true.

And then we ruin the physical and mental health of our men and women by rotating them in and out of that hellhole, for 3, 4, 5 trips?

Looks bad to me.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:38 AM
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4. I, for one, am much more interested in a candidate's devotion to the USA..
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:42 AM
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6. Ditto.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 07:47 AM
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7. Exactly right
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