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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:37 PM
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Clinton Campaign Brought Sexism Out of Hiding
Clinton Campaign Brought Sexism Out of Hiding
By Marie Cocco

WASHINGTON -- As the Democratic nomination contest slouches toward a close, it's time to take stock of what I will not miss.

I will not miss seeing advertisements for T-shirts that bear the slogan "Bros before Hos." The shirts depict Barack Obama (the Bro) and Hillary Clinton (the Ho) and they are widely sold on the Internet.

I will not miss walking past airport concessions selling the Hillary Nutcracker, a device in which a pantsuit-clad Clinton doll opens her legs to reveal stainless steel thighs that, well, bust nuts. I won't miss television and newspaper stories that make light of the novelty item.

I won't miss episodes like the one in which the liberal radio personality Randi Rhodes called Clinton a "big f---in' whore" and said the same about former vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Rhodes was appearing at an event sponsored by a San Francisco radio station, before an audience of appreciative Obama supporters -- one of whom had promoted the evening on the presumptive Democratic nominee's official campaign Web site.

I won't miss Citizens United Not Timid (no acronym, please), an anti-Clinton group founded by Republican guru Roger Stone.

Political discourse will at last be free of jokes like this one, told last week by magician Penn Jillette on MSNBC: "Obama did great in February, and that's because that was Black History Month. And now Hillary's doing much better 'cause it's White B---- Month, right?" Co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski rebuked Jillette.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/clinton_campaign_brought_sexis.html

Yoko Ono was right.......
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:39 PM
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1. As well as racism!
Edited on Wed May-14-08 12:41 PM by IndianaGreen
Racism has become respectable, alongside homophobia, for some Democrats.

"The happiest person in America tonight is John McCain."

Mike Huckabee on Hillary's victory speech in WV
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:41 PM
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4. Racism will continue to rear its ugly head if Obama is the nominee.
If anything, it will be ratcheted up.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:43 PM
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8. Nothing like appeasing the racists, just as Hillary appeased the neocons
"Obliterate Iran," she shouted (with nukes, of course!)!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:51 PM
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18. I'm only pointing out that Obama will confront racism as the nominee
just as Hillary would confront sexism if she were the nominee.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:45 PM
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11. Then don't succumb to it, help us fight it!
What am I saying?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 03:30 PM
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36. I guess so, if clinton supporters have anything to say about it.
how about working to reduce BOTH sexism and racism?

the OP complains about sexism, which apparently you're concerned about, but instead of being equally concerned about racism, you sort of threaten more of it, or at least seem blase about more of it.


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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:39 PM
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2. Along with people proudly proclaiming they wouldn't vote for a black person.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:40 PM
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3. "Yoko Ono was right"...?
About what exactly? Is she a reliable source on ANYTHING besides awful awful "music"?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:45 PM
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10. right about woman being the n****r of the world. nt.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:34 PM
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OMG! If you even begin to believe that then you don't know the CANCER of "racism"
:eyes: I've experienced sexism, up close and personal during the four years I served in the AD Army. How did I deal with it? NOT BY WHIMPERING and FEIGNING SELF-RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION, but by out performing the boys at their own game.

HRC vacillates between VICTIM and MERCENARY. She is NOT an inspiring leader because she's far too secretive and duplicitous.

Hillary is first and foremost "A ROYAL CLINTON" who just happens to be "a woman" when it benefits her "narrative." :thumbsdown:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:55 PM
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35. oh, I'm familiar with the cancer that is racism...its medical term is "white people" nt.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:41 PM
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5. according to many, though, there was no sexism involved. sad that it is so pervasive as to be
invisible to many.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:48 PM
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14. To me this is the truth and the saddest commentary:
Edited on Wed May-14-08 12:49 PM by Beacool
"I will not miss the deafening, depressing silence of Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean or other leading Democrats, who to my knowledge (with the exception of Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland) haven't uttered a word of public outrage at the unrelenting, sex-based hate that has been hurled at a former first lady and two-term senator from New York. Among those holding their tongues are hundreds of Democrats for whom Clinton has campaigned and raised millions of dollars. Don Imus endured more public ire from the political class when he insulted the Rutgers University women's basketball team."

That hurts and makes me realize that the Democratic party's mantra of inclusion is a total sham. Add to that the dismissive comments made by Pelosi, Kennedy and some other party leaders and I have to think really hard whether I should change my party affiliation to Independent. After being a lifelong Democrat it would break my heart, but I feel that the party may not represent me any longer.

:cry:
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:24 PM
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21. I wish the National Women's Party was still fully operating
Edited on Wed May-14-08 01:25 PM by niyad
National Woman's Party
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The National Woman's Party (NWP), was a women's organization founded in 1917 that fought for women's rights during the early 20th century in the United States, particularly for the right to vote on the same terms as men. In contrast to other organizations, such as the National American Woman Suffrage Association, which focused on lobbying individual states and from which the NWP split, the NWP put its priority on the passage of a constitutional amendment ensuring women's suffrage. Alice Paul and Lucy Burns founded the organization originally under the name the Congressional Union for Woman Suffrage in 1913; by 1917, the name had been changed to the National Women's Party.

During the group's first meeting, Paul clarified that the party would not be a political party and therefore would not name a candidate for United States president during elections. While non-partisan, the NWP directed much of its fire at President Woodrow Wilson when criticizing those responsible for the social situation in which women of the era lived. The National Woman's Party also opposed World War I.

Women associated with the party staged a suffrage parade on March 3, 1913, the day before Wilson's inauguration; they also became the first women to picket for women's rights in front of the White House. The picketers were tolerated until 1917, but when they continued to picket after the United States declared war in World War One, they were arrested by police for "obstructing traffic". Many of the NWP's members, upon arrest, went on hunger strikes; some, including Paul, were force-fed by jail personnel as a consequence. The resulting scandal and its negative impact on the country's international reputation at a time when Wilson was trying to build a reputation for himself and the nation as an international leader in human rights may have contributed to Wilson's decision to publicly call for the United States Congress to pass the Suffrage Amendment.

After the ratification of the Nineteenth amendment in 1920, the NWP turned its attention to eliminating other forms of gender discrimination, principally by advocating passage of the Equal Rights Amendment, which Paul drafted in 1923. The organization regrouped and published the magazine Equal Rights. The publication was directed mostly towards women but also intended to educate men about the benefits of women's suffrage, women's rights and other issues concerning American women.

Over the next several decades, the National Women's Party authored over 600 pieces of legislation fighting for women's equality; over 300 of these were passed. In addition, the NWP continued to lobby for the passage of the Equal Rights Amendment. In 1997, the NWP ceased to be a lobbying organization. Instead, it turned its focus to education and to preserving its collection of first hand source documents from the women's suffrage movement. The NWP continues to function as an educational organization and museum.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Women's_Party
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:32 PM
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25. Wow, thanks for the info.
I was not familiar with that group. I too wish that they existed today.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:42 PM
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23. did you notice that there wasn't anywhere near the coverage and outrage over the "iron my
shirt" comment as there was about the "boy" remark?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:33 PM
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26. Of course not!!!
It seems that sexism is OK in their eyes......
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:41 PM
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6. i wont miss canidates denouncing free trade while their spouses and campaign workers
cut deals with foreign countries and american workers get screwed by duplicitous pandering politicians
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:42 PM
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7. Quick look over here!
Don't think about Hilary's shameless race ploy, someone, somewhere, is sexist!
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:43 PM
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9. k & r
so glad I missed the examples cited, I would have done some serious screaming (my accountant tells me that replacing television sets because I threw things at them is a very expensive hobby)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:45 PM
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12. Feelin' down because your symbolic primary victory was sullied by the 22% of voters
who claimed they were voting on race? Get that sympathetical, hypothetical, electrically electable status back with Sex Card, the new and improved tool for hyper-effective, hyperbolic, hypochondric, homeopathic victimization from the makers of Race Card! Try it once! Try it twice! Try it over and again; never goes dull, never fails, never provides anything but absolute satisfactication!

That's Sex Card, folks! That ain't a vagina between your legs; no ma'am! That's a shield against the arrows of fate; that's an umbrella to keep out the rain; that's a sledgehammer that can crack a Race Card in half! Step right up and buy one, folks, you can't go wrong!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:46 PM
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13. I won't miss any of that either. It's been vile. n/t
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:50 PM
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15. Yay more cries of sexism!
Edited on Wed May-14-08 12:50 PM by socordsx
It doesn't matter that she's just not a good candidate.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:51 PM
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17. FSM RAWKS!
May we be blessed by the noodly appendage. :-)
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:50 PM
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34. It doesn't matter what kind of candidate she is, the sexism was there.
Sometimes it was veiled, but at other times it was openly flaunted and very vew people were called on it. It doesn't matter who she is or what a person's opinion may be of her, sexism is as unexcusable as racism. Racism and sexism are used to the same effect and both are deplorable.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:51 PM
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16. B.S. More than anything HRC is "a Clinton" and "political royalty" ... she's had all the breaks.
What disgusts me and reflects negative on my gender is her "feigned indignation" of imagined slights.

I'm ashamed for my gender that HRC is the first viable woman candidate for President.

HRC is NOT "all women" ... not by a long shot. :nuke:
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:54 PM
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19. In defense of Randi, she includes herself in that group. It was a nightclub routine...
Edited on Wed May-14-08 12:55 PM by WA98070
And Randi is not afraid of pointing out the difference between the sexes. She also refused to endorse anyone until Hillary went too negative.

Randi has always said her main issue is election reform. Although Obama has taken an active part in this area she made those of us who feel election reform is important to do our own research for months.

As far as sexism: B.T. Barnum said something about a sucker being born every minute and unfortunately too many of us are male.

These stupid items are not aimed at Hillary or women but at ignorant men willing to part with their money.

Our society finds humor at the expense of others, nationality, race, hair color etc. That's not right but it's reality.
When's the last time you told a joke?



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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:38 PM
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30. Yes, but she should have never said it.
I never understand women who put down other women by using such coarse language. I'm usually a cheerleader for all women, even those who I disagree with politically. I was particularly gratified when several Republican women I know through work or as friends, would wish me good luck when there was a primary and would also be angry when Hillary was unfairly bashed by the media. We are women first and party affiliation comes second. Even today, these same Republican women were congratulating me for Hillary's win in WV.

Take care!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:55 PM
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20. k/r
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:33 PM
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22. There's alot many of us won't miss. These primaries can't end soon enough
Edited on Wed May-14-08 01:42 PM by Catherina


Norman has said he got the T-shirts from someone in Arkansas. He started selling them at his bar -- known for the provocative, ultra-conservative political slogans often posted on signs out front -- in April but said he has no plans to mass market them.

The sales came to light this week when a loose coalition of local groups called a protest of the T-shirts.

About a dozen protestors rallied against the shirts Tuesday afternoon, condemning them as racist and asking Norman to stop selling them.

Norman acknowledged the imagery's Jim Crow roots but said he sees nothing wrong with depicting a prominent African-American as a monkey.

"We're not living in the (19)40's," he said. "Look at him . . . the hairline, the ears -- he looks just like Curious George."

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/13/mulligans_0514.html



Maybe by 2016 we'll have evolved a little more. In the meantime, we have to keep pumping money into education.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:30 PM
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24. I love Curious George and have a small one hanging from my rear view mirror,
but that's a racist and disgraceful way of using his image. There'll always be jerks out there, don't let them get to you.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the same a-hole who had on his sign "Hillary should have married OJ". Imagine that, wishing that a former first lady be assassinated in a horrible way!!!

Truly digusting....
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:34 PM
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27. The campaign has also brought shameless ambitious out into the open.
As well as devolving sensibilities and a whole new era of political strife and rancor.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:37 PM
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28. What a great post...and so true
and as I get sickened by the responses, I see that there are few responding who are truly as "Progressive" as they claim.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:41 PM
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31. Sexism and racism are as prevalent in our party
as they are in the population at large. Sad, but true.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:37 PM
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29. K&R
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 02:48 PM
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33. Maybe he stole mine too. I wondered why my remote wasn't working! nt
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