Question: what could Obama say or do to get the vote of a Clinton supporter?

[texshelters]

Is there any way Obama can get former Clinton supporters in his camp? I mean those that already said they would vote McCain or stay home.

Tex Shelters

[Bluebear]

1. Tell some of his supporters to be more inclusive and hopeful?

[democrattotheend]

3. I for one am trying

And I know there are some other Obama supporters on this board who are as well. It's a shame some Obama supporters have to be so obnoxious that they turn other Democrats off from Obama. But none of us speak for Obama, so I hope you don't judge him by any of us.

[Bluebear]

Good on ya.

UNITY

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I Wonder What He Would Say If He Read This Board

And it's not so far fetched as this is not an obscure board... It has been mentioned in the main stream media...

[cali]

9. you're not voting for his supporters on a web site.

This should have nothing to do with his supporters. This is about Obama and McCain and the future of this country. Not hurt feelings.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. If by "inclusive and hopeful", you mean not criticizing her campaign tactics in any way

Sorry, no sale.

[MonkeyFunk]

86. There's a big difference

between "criticizing her campaign tactics" and what goes on here. It's a non-stop hate-fest of lies and smears.

[Cant trust em]

21. I understand that some of his supporters are dickheads

but that really doesn't have anything to do with the candidate. There have been plenty of Clinton supporters who were jerks to me, but I learned to get past them and if Clinton is the nominee then I will gladly vote for her.

I vote for Democrats.

[Bluebear]

24. 'I vote for Democrats.'

Hell yes! :toast:

[BlooInBloo]

36. It's been tried. They just get flamed. Next idea?

[Pawel K]

2. For some of them he would have to probably paint his skin white.

[texshelters]

I hate to agree,

but as someone who called Texas for Obama (a Dallas suburb), there was some real racial hatred out there. From Democrats!

Tex Shelters

[Pawel K]

23. I was totally oblivious to it until recently

I honestly, for some idiotic reason, thought that for the most part this country had gotten over race. Yes, of course, there would be exceptions but I never imagined it to be at this kind of level. A while ago I would dismiss most Obama supporters as crazy when they tried to say racism was at play in regards to some of the hate Obama got. It wasn't until the Wright thing blew up that I woke the hell up. And I feel ashamed for being that naive.

[Barack_America]

43. And the absence of a vagina is a fatal flaw to others...

He'll never get all of them.

Hopefully all he'll have to do to get most of them is fight for the Democratic platform and against McCain.

[VotesForWomen]

84. so now we're racists *and* man-haters??!! but you want our votes? oh wait, no, O doesn't need our v

votes, he's gonna sweep all the red states, where there aren't any racists. clue: if O is barely winning the dem primary and claims everybody who won't vote for him is racist, then he's going to lose the GE for sure, because there are a whole lot more racists in the general electorate than there are among dem primary voters.

[Barack_America]

91. Um, okay.

Feel free to jeopardize reproductive freedom to satisfy your irrational anger.

As an American it is your right. That one, at least, is safe.

[ecstatic]

56. LOL. That's along the lines of what I was going to post

Glad you did it for me :)

[VotesForWomen]

83. yep, we're all a bunch of racists. nt

[Pawel K]

89. I never said that, but nice try

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Mention his non-supporters?

Like Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts...

[YDogg]

11. ding! ding! ding!

[IndianaGreen]

6. It depends on which kind of Clinton supporter we are talking about.

Some of them will never vote for someone Black, male or female, or gay.

[Lerkfish]

7. seriously?> vice president clinton would do it.

[Liberty Belle]

8. My Mom's Jewish; she doesn't think Obama is strong enough

on protecting Israel if Israel is attacked, and says she knows other Jews who are reticient about supporting Obama for that reason.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Obama Is Very Pro Israel

~

[texshelters]

17. Just because he won't nuke Iran to the ground?

ALL US presidents will protect Israel to the hilt, as will most governments in Europe. Too bad the far-right propoganda has worked against him already.

Tex Shelters

[Cant trust em]

18. I am concerned about Florida.

I'm going stricly based on stereotypes here, but southern racists in northern Florida/panhandle plus pro-Israel jews in southern Fl make this a tough state for Obama.

any thoughts?

[JuniperLea]

22. Obama is very, very pro-Israel

Perhaps your mom's friends are confusing him with his pastor, who clearly is NOT pro-Israel. He speaks very well of the Jewish religion, but not Israel.

[AllentownJake]

26. Why does Israel need our help?

They have 200 nukes and second strike capability. I think they can take care of themselves.

[Lerrad]

62. Right On! n/t

[VotesForWomen]

85. that's something that repugs will hit big time. O's a little to close to Islamists and other anti-j

anti-jewish folks.

[book_worm]

10. If not being the democratic nominee in the most important race in years isn't enough

then I don't know what would be. If it were Hillary, who I've come to really dislike because of this race, as the nominee I would vote for her in a second in November over McCain.

[Mass]

12. Tell them to listen to Hillary Clinton?

[Cronus Protagonist]

13. Tell us he would end corporate personhood

And do it.

I'd canvass for him if he would end corporate personhood.

[mmonk]

14. For her real supporters, it will probably have to come from Clinton.

For those that crossed over or voted that way due to racism or Operation Choas, probably nothing.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

16. Tell them that the world is more important than their ego.

[VotesForWomen]

87. heh. back at you. i wonder, will O zealots apologize to the rest of us dems when O loses the GE badl

badly, and causes lasting damage for years to come?

[alfredo]

20. Maybe this will help

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/14/clinton/index.html

[JuniperLea]

29. This proves that what supporters say does get back to the candidate...

So for all you who claim that what you say on a message board has no effect, think again... you may be wasting votes and time for your candidate.

[alfredo]

32. If she did otherwise, she'd be persona non grata in the party

Being a long time Clinton watcher, I think she is punking the Republicans and the media. I think she is working with Obama. The Primaries have been Obama's OJT (On the Job Training.) What if the primaries ended in Feb or March? Would Obama or Hillary be getting this much attention in the MSM?

[JuniperLea]

25. He might tell his supporters...

That he is NOT stealing the SD's who are moving from the Clinton camp to his, because SD's cannot be stolen.

[hfojvt]

27. you've gotta say the magic words

ooh eeh ooh ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang

[Kool Kitty]

34. Great. Now I'm gonna have that song in my head for the

rest of the day.

[hfojvt]

35. don't fight it

it'll do your heart some good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe-PEJda5Qs

I find that one to be a pleasant earworm.

[Milo_Bloom]

28. For the most part these people don't exist.

Obama doesn't have to say or do anything special to appease anyone... he should just keep doing what he has been doing. the vast majority of these people are talking our their rears will wind up voting for Obama.

The small group that won't are people who probably thought the IWR was a good thing to vote on and since Obama didn't support it, he won't get their vote. However, CLinton wouldn't have gotten the anti-war vote, so she would have lost much much more than Obama in the GE.

[texshelters]

30. Very wise

That is mostly true. I know there are some who will need a little coersion; however, the hopeless cases will remain so. If they would rather vote for McCain, then what's the point?

Tex Shelters

[Hatchling]

33. I think the word you are looking for is "convincing" not "coercion"

Coercion really ticks me off.

Well. I want my pony delivered before the GE.
I also want a new computer (preferably a Mac)
And he has to promise free broadband for all!

That will do it for me. ;)

[texshelters]

65. I kind of did mean coercion

because I'm getting sick of politics, I use cynical wording. Point taken!

Tex Shelters

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[Jamastiene]

37. CHANGE his attitude toward women, poor white people, and gay people.

But then again, he'd just be faking it and I don't like fakers either, so I'm thinking nothing at this point for a lot of people who have been thrown under the bus.

[crankychatter]

39. He's never exhibited any of the above - your statement is patently false

are you making it up or do you have some evidence?

[Jamastiene]

41. "Hold on Sweetie we'll do a press avail"

then it never happens. That's all I needed to see happen to know I am right on this.

[crankychatter]

44. The man lives with three women... he used the word "sweetie" casually and that means....

he's anti-gay, anti-poor and anti women?

wtf are YOU smoking?

you cannot be serious, therefore I am terminating this conversation

[MethuenProgressive]

That won't ever Change.

When the teleprompter goes out, we hear the "real" Obama.

[texshelters]

66. Gay people?

Please explain this. Also, he doesn't hate poor people, he just doesn't understand them. He has worked with some working class people in some contexts, and not others (steel workers vs. coal miners, restaurant workers vs. factory workers for example.)

Woman? Other than the "tea party" comment, which was stupid, what else has HE said (not hsi surrogates)?

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[crankychatter]

38. Maybe he could do the Michael Jackson thing.... but throw in TG surgery? n/t

I know... I'm not funny.

[Perry Logan]

40. "I hereby disown my followers. What a bunch of assholes, huh?"

Just kidding. Actually, only a small percentage of Obama supporters are assholes.

[Jamastiene]

45. OMG, and they are so loud too.

:wow:

[MethuenProgressive]

51. Actually, only a small percentage of Obama supporters are on DU.

There's math in there...

[texshelters]

68. Hey!

stop talking facts!

Tex Shelters

[DS1]

42. Promise to attack Iran, disavow any work towards NAFTA, loan himself a few million

and dodge non-existent bullets in European countries.


:yoiks:

[cd3dem]

46. "WOW! I didn't think anyone would really take me seriously, I quit and will run again in 2016!"

I will NEVER vote for BO as he is unqualified and scares the shit out of me. I will vote for Hillary Clinton if I have to write in her name!

[MethuenProgressive]

52. That's what he just whispered in Johnny Edwards' ear.

:hi:

[Lerrad]

63. Just throw your vote away?

McCain scares the shit out of me.

[texshelters]

71. You want experience, vote for Cheney!

Why does he scare you? As far as experience go, I would take a freshman Republican over Douglas anytime. You know, Abe Lincoln, one term Representative who became President. He certainly sucked, huh?

Why all the fear people? He didn't say he would "obliterate Iran" or anything. I don't get it. Have you been paying attention to the bad government all the "experienced" people have brought us?

Tex Shelters

[Beacool]

47. Absolutely nothing.

Moses could come down the mountain with a third tablet that said: "Vote for Obama" and it wouldn't make a blessed difference.

The only way I would consider it would be if they were both on the ticket. When two candidates are so close in votes and delegates, the top person should offer the other the VP spot.

[BzaDem]

48. I would also say absolutely nothing

because absolutely nothing needs to be said. If Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will happily support him, even if he is not my preferred candidate. I hope you will too. This election is about issues, and I hope you realize that Obama's positions on issues are very close to Hillarys' positions, and very far away from McCains.

[cd3dem]

50. Write in Hillary Clinton! The DNC and Dean think they can force their candidate on us!

Obama 2004: I can't see running for president
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gexyfVpFMU

IN 52 SECS WHY BARACK OBAMA CANNOT WIN A GENERAL ELECTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs&NR=1

[Beacool]

54. I might just do that!!

I just got calls from 2 campaign volunteers from PA who said that enough was enough. One is going to write-in her name, the other surprised me. He said that he was watching Edwards' endorsement and that he had decided that not voting was not sufficient and that he had decided to vote for McCain. This man is in his 50s and has never voted for a Republican in his life.

[texshelters]

78. Talk about your conspiracy nuts!

Clinton has been the DNC candidate for two years and only lost their support when she started losing. Stop spreading false propaganda!

So you don't like Obama, fine. There is no reason to make up false allegations. There are plenty of reasons people don't like him, but don't make up shit!

Tex Shelters

[texshelters]

74. Should Obama give Clinton the ticket when she

would lose him the election? Just a hypothetical. I don't think Clinton would be so gracious.

Tex Shetlers

[salbi]

49. Change the color of his skin?

[MethuenProgressive]

53. He could apologize for Swiftboating the Clintons on race one more time.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/MethuenProgressive/551

[cd3dem]

64. BINGO!!!! Swiftboating to win by calling a fellow democrat a racist doesn't get my vote!

I would rather get out the coat hangers and meet President McCain!

I will not condone this type of crap from democrats! He should be ashamed of himself! At least we know we cannot trust McCain, but to get our throats sliced by a democrat!!!! Just plain BS!!! This campaign has offered the dirtiest bullshit from Obama and his supporters trashing Hillary on her character... sexist statements that never end! and Michelle!!! my God the women is atrocious!

[Faygo Kid]

67. For all you do, this one's for you. Enjoy.

Great evening, isn't it? All the best.

[aquarius dawning]

70. Edwards looks like he knows he's being used by people who hate him.

[Faygo Kid]

73. Yeah, that's what everybody must be thinking now. Not.

[aquarius dawning]

76. Please. three weeks ago, obama fiends had nothing but vitriol for him and went as far as to condemn

him for being another white male. He's being used by people that resent him.
edit typo

[texshelters]

81. Who hates him?

The DNC? The Republicans? Certainly not Clinton or Obama. Maybe Kucinich who even had the guts to call Edwards out on trade with China.

Tex Shelters

[texshelters]

79. How did he do that?

Yes, I saw the link. Tell us what you think, please.

Tex Shelters

[madrchsod]

55. nothing-- it is up to her to join obama in this "quest"...

if she drops her ego and works for the good of our party then fine .any "democrat" who will not vote or will vote for john really is`t a democrat are they....we have to much work to do than to worry about losers

[DearAbby]

57. If you are really a Democrat...

Obama doesnt need to beg for your vote...but I am sure if you want to have blood on your hands, and wish to make the Supreme Court ultra conservation for the next generation, go a head and vote McCain.

[asdjrocky]

58. How 'bout this-

He's a Democrat. What is it with you people?

[Name removed]

59. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Lerrad]

60. It's not what Obama could say...

It's what McCain will do if elected, and what he has done.

Where do we start?
1) Bomb, bomb Iran, bomb, bomb Iran....
2) One Hundred more years in Iraq.
3) McCain admits that he knows nothing about the economy.
4) No plan for health care at all.
5) His association with domes day preacher Rod Parsley.

Please add to this list.

[Az_lefty]

61. Have Edwards talk to them. He was very convincing this afternoon about uniting the Party

[cd3dem]

69. "I want Hillary for my VP and I'm dying and have only 9 months to live... "

[aquarius dawning]

72. ding ding ding. we have a winner!!

:party: :applause: :rofl:

[cd3dem]

75. He would win by a landslide then!!!

[NashVegas]

77. ERA

Obama did as well as he did, at least in part, because his campaign excelled at splitting the womens' vote.

Time to put up.

[texshelters]

80. ERA would be great!

That failed when I was a kid, it's time to bring it back. Equal pay should be at the top of the list, them military protection and facilities for women, then whistle blower protection, etc.

Tex Shelters

[VotesForWomen]

82. he could start by telling his 'supporters' to STFU. it may be too late, though. he's already told

us that he doesn't need or want our votes, and threatened that his supporters would not vote for hilllary.

[texshelters]

88. Do you have a link or site for the quote?

I didn't hear him say, "don't vote for Clinton." Did I miss this?

I think being more accommodating would help for everyone. Do Clinton supporters really think McCain is better?

Tex Shelters

[IDemo]

90. "Roe v. Wade"