Obama may win the nomination but he will need most of the Clinton supporters in the GE.....

[suston96]

I suggest y'all bookmark this site and refer to it. It is updated every day:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Note that it also contains vital congressional races. Without big gains in the US Senate a Democratic presidency will be severely hobbled.

Give up all this childish and useless internecine bullshit and concentrate on a Democratic victory in both the Presidency and the Congress.

Obama will continue to need his black support - in the 90 percentile range. But he will also need former Hillary Clinton supporters - in the 60 to 70 percentiles, maybe more, to beat the Republicans and to coat-tail an overwhelming congressional win.

Pay attention! The Obama Clinton schoolyard antics are just about over. It's about Democrats winning everything - running the table - in November.

[Oleladylib]

1. We are not "former" Clinton supporters...and we recognize...

that a review of options is necessary. We are Clinton supporters, with Clinton foresight and are not caught up in fairytale promises with no reality attached.

[melody]

2. In other words, you're not going to back the Democratic ticket in November? n/t

[Renew Deal]

7. I think she's one of the McCain supporters on DU

I read that yesterday. Hopefully she will see the light when Hillary asks her to support Obama.

[melody]

11. Then she's a Republican. She shouldn't even be on DU.

Good call for catching that. Thanks for pointing it out.

[Oleladylib]

31. Try to put more thought into your thinking..TY

[enid602]

9. Clinton supporters

What I, or oleladylib do individually is not what's important. Most posters on this forum will vote ticket no matter what. But I don't think we represent the 17 million Clinton supporters who might need a very tangible (and meaningful) olive branch at this point. Throwing defeat in our face might seem important now, but might not be the most important thing in the long run, given what's at stake.

I was woken up from our little Primary brawl yesterday when I turned on the radio (here in Phoenix) to learn that Chase Bank plans to layoff 2000 via outsourcing this year, and US Airways will be moving its corporate HQ to Chicago, which might affect some 10000 jobs. Added to the fact that we are among those counties with the highest concentration of jobs in housing-, real estate- and lending-related industries, I'd say we're not sitting pretty. More and more of the country is starting to resemble the rust belt.

[melody]

10. If you don't vote for the Democrat, you ARE voting for McCain

What you do IS important. And if you don't support the Democrats, the ongoing problems will be at your feet.

[Texas Hill Country]

23. because i vote democrat does not mean i have to vote for Obama

[Renew Deal]

5. We Are Cavity Creeps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Y_vEKbZhU

You might be a Clinton supporter, but are you a Democrat? Tht's to be determined.

[shadowknows69]

6. And supporting a dead campaign isn't following fairy tale promises?

What color is the sky in your world?

[DearAbby]

19. In otherwords...you are not a Democrat

you are a Hillaryite...difference.

[Texas Hill Country]

24. i am a person, not an automaton that blindly votes for who I am told to

[DearAbby]

25. I stand by my statement...

[melody]

3. If the race had gone the other way, I'd not only be staunchly supporting Clinton

I'd be out working for her, just as I did Bill (I didn't support him in the primary either). In the end, we'll see what is most important to ALL the people ... saving our country or pouting over not getting our way.

Incidentally, as a staunch Edwards supporter, I think it's telling that I don't see any Edwards people saying "John's not the nominee, so I'm not voting!"

[Liberal Gramma]

13. Good point

None of the supporters of any of the other candidates are saying they won't support the nominee.

[kenny blankenship]

4. I was under the impression that most of "the Clinton supporters" were Democrats

[ronnykmarshall]

26. Not on DU.

We are vile people that should be ashamed of ourselves and should go to hell. We are racist pigs. Ignorant stupid old uneducated back-wards hicks that need to "get out of the way".

Oh, but can you please vote for Obama in November? We didn't mean all that stuff. Just kidding. Really we were. But if Obama loses we're gonna blame YOU for supporting THAT WOMAN!!!

Yeah, I'm voting for his ass. That's it.

I just hope I don't have a hang nail on election day.

[bluebellbaby]

36. You forgot...they'll say HRC did it all...that *itch!

[predfan]

8. I'm in retail, a small family business. Everything we own is tied up in the note,

and business sucks. BUT I don't have sick children, I just made a deposit large enough to make this month's bank payment on the business, and PLEASE GOD we're going to have a new, DEMOCRATIC administration voted in in November. Today's the best day ever, because I know we're not guaranteed tomorrow.

I don't care which candidate wins the primary, I'm just ready to fight the Republicans and show McCain for what he is. As a retailer, I need 50 % of the population to get up the day after the election and proclaim "happy days are here again". This country is so ready for change.

[suston96]

12. I was and am still deeply pained by exit polls that have supporters on both sides.....

....saying in large numbers that they will not support each other's candidate in the general election.

Maybe, and I hope, that it is fleeting anger resulting from the glowing and bitterness of both victory and defeat, but we had all better be talking about this - NOW - and start by quitting it with this childish gloating and continued insults of each other's candidates.

Read the thread headlines on this forum board - GD-P and you will see what I mean.

[enid602]

15. exit polls

I would think Obama is concerned with those exit poll findings as well, and you KNOW McCain is studying them.

[stillcool]

14. I understand that...

and I'm sure that a percentage of that group will not under any circumstances vote for Senator Obama, as Senator Clinton has told us ad nauseam. The answer is new voters.

[Beacool]

16. Former Clinton supporters???????

Former my rear end!!!!!!! We Clinton supporters will remain Clinton supporters whether she wins the nomination or not. Some of us will always support Hillary, no matter who ends up being the nominee. If you mean whether some of us will campaign and vote for Obama, that's another story. Some probably will and some will not.

:shrug:

[suston96]

18. "If you mean whether some of us will campaign and vote for Obama, that's another story."

Yep. That's what I mean.

I am old enough to remember the Kennedy-Johnson bitter primary battle in 1960. Wasn't as close or bitter as this one. (No internet, I guess).

But what happened? Johnson was offered the VP and accepted, even though, it is said, Bobby Kennedy convinced his brother, JFK, to withdraw the offer.

Johnson refused and stayed on. The rest is, as they say, history.

[Beacool]

20. Well, that may be the only solution.

Hillary & Obama are closer in votes and delegates than JFK & LBJ were back then. It would be a shotgun wedding, but so what? It still would be difficult to get over the rancor, but we would get over it in time. Otherwise, I have no intention of lifting a finger for Obama and he definitely doesn't need my money.

[Sinistrous]

17. No s**t, Sherlock.

We can only hope either that the hard-core Hillary idolators are a minority of those who voted for her, or that sufficient numbers of them will take the mature option and support the candidate who will get the US out of the abyss into which the *ush cabal has thrown us.

[casus belli]

21. You are absolutely, 100% correct.

I'm an Obama supporter, but I am 100% committed to voting for Hillary if she wins the nod. There's simply too much at stake.

[book_worm]

22. Latest Quinnipiac poll nationwide Obama leads by 7 over McCain, Hill leads by 5

both lose white voters to McCain by 7
Obama does 7 points better among black voters than Hill.

[JuniperLea]

27. I cannot believe what I'm reading here

I just can't.

I'm so very happy I never joined either camp, because this is about as disgusting a display of willful ignorance, and hateful rhetoric I've ever seen on DU.

All y'all need to stop this and start actually listening to each other. Your responses to each other make no sense at all. Furthermore, you cannot expect a civil response from someone you are verbally eviscerating, and you are a total fucking dumbass if you think you deserve civility under these circumstances.

The OP is condescending and passive aggressive if you ask me. No one has to completely give up their support of a candidate in order to fully support the party nominee. To ask them to do so, or to refer to them as "former" supporters is just not right.

Just because someone says they feel the need to be wooed back into the fold is no reason to call them a Republican, or a McCain voter. Jesus Christ people! What exactly do you want with your fucking pound of flesh anyway? And why do you feel the need to continue like this?

Sick and fucking twisted.

[BlooInBloo]

28. Um,. Clinton is KILLING Congressional candidates. Stop making shit up.

[WA98296]

29. Yes, BUT...they will NEED him AFTER the election or suffer through McCain.

[BenDavid]

30. Unless Obama gets much stronger on his own, he'll need Clinton

more than ever in November. That's the only ticket that makes sense now.

Of the 29 primaries since New Hampshire from which delegates have been allocated,Obama has won 15. But in doing so, he got a majority of the white votes in just five of the 29 contests. And while winning three of the eight primaries held since March 4, Obama won a majority of the white vote in only one — Vermont.

Since this campaign has turned to black v white, then the following is in no way meant to be racist, but then again when has obama people cared about an explanation.

If my math is correct, Obama won white people in only 6 out of 37 states? Where we can borrow 40 million black people for one day in November?

Should obama who happens to be black, be allowed to win the White House? Well Sure, Damn right. But if the biggest voting block in America, uneducated whites, won't have it, we're left with two choices: We can vote for "the way things OUGHT to be" and possibly lose, or we can accept the fact
that America is a terribly racist country, and run our white candidate and possibly win.

I'm not happy that I live in a terribly racist country, I suppose you aren't, either, but the question has become, "Do we want to win or do we want to make a point?

[Oleladylib]

32. we've seen the strength he has...that's it and that's all of it..

he will need Clinton and a hell of a cabinet.

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34. No.He'll need Democratic supporters in the GE. Get your head straight and figure out the difference.

[bluebellbaby]

35. Wow...great site...I've bookmarked it...thanks...and you're right!

We will need each other...no matter who the nominee is...