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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:17 PM
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Analysis: Gay marriage back as campaign issue
Edited on Thu May-15-08 07:21 PM by FVZA_Colonel
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/gay_marriage_politics


Analysis: Gay marriage back as campaign issue
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A California Supreme Court decision clearing the way for gay marriages in the state injects an element of uncertainty into a presidential race in which the Iraq war and the sputtering economy have largely overshadowed social issues.

John McCain, the GOP nominee-in-waiting whose position on the issue rankles the Republican Party's conservative base, sought to strike a delicate balance to the Thursday ruling.

He "supports the right of the people of California to recognize marriage as a unique institution sanctioning the union between a man and a woman, just as he did in his home state of Arizona," his campaign said in response. "John McCain doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions."

McCain rejected the will of the state's high court even as he tried to maintain his long-held stance that the issue should be left to the states. He suggested that he backs an effort by California's religious conservatives to put a constitutional amendment defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman on the November ballot.
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It should be interesting to see how this actually plays out, and if it can turn the tide enough against public disgust with Republican corruption and piss-poor foreign and domestic policies.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:20 PM
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1. Gee, won't that hurt Democrats who are adept at sacrificing long term goals for short term gains. nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:21 PM
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2. i should hope so --
there was never anything to avoid.

and the republick party is going to try to slam the dems with it no matter what.

so why continue with trying to dance around it?

it's irrational to oppose marriage equality -- so step up to the bat and take the stupidity head on.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:24 PM
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3. And the Democratic Party just possbily lost California in November n/t
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:25 PM
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5. Nope
Sorry
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:27 PM
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6. I really hope so, and I am inclined to believe it, given the sheer number of people
Edited on Thu May-15-08 07:29 PM by FVZA_Colonel
disgusted with the way this country is going; but I can't help but feel at the back of my mind a nagging fear that this might motivate the theocrats in that state to come out in force. I know it is basically irrational, and it doesn't change my feelings about the moral rightness of this decision, but it is still there (I do hope to quash it.)
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:30 PM
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9. The overturned referendum was popular. We'll see n/t
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:27 PM
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7. Just like we lost Massachusetts and New Jersey in previous elections.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:44 PM
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16. Hey babe...
:hug:

Gonna head back to Cali for another marriage? :D

:loveya:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:50 PM
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17. Gonna hold out for 2009 this time.
Corzine's pledged to make it happen after the election.

And when that happens, maybe we can re-locate to Cali (or Mass....) and work our way to SCOTUS...

:loveya:

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:38 PM
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21. We'd LOVE to have you in our state
:loveya:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 10:33 PM
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26. If things don't change around here soon
you may have a couple of new neighbors.

:pals:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:36 PM
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13. Not likely. By November the sky wont' have fallen and that amendment will be defeated
Edited on Thu May-15-08 07:37 PM by anigbrowl
because there'll be a ton of democrats turning out to support the nominee and put an end to the GOP rule. Obama's big thing will be to keep the Latino vote on his side and not McCain's. Meanwhile McCain can go on trumpeting his support for Arizona's constitutional amendment...it didn't pass.

Forgot to mention that even Schwarzenegger has said he won't support it.

No way is CA going to vote for McCain.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:41 PM
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14. And now, a word from Skinner:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:56 PM
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18. Maybe not, but as we know this can be a sensitive issue.
Edited on Thu May-15-08 08:01 PM by totodeinhere
We Dems need to stand firmly for gay rights, especially since the Repukes will probably try again to demagogue the issue again.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:35 PM
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19. "Blame it on the gays!"
DU talking point #35.

:puke:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:37 PM
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20. Didn't the CA
Legislature try twice to pass gay marriage only to have the gropenator veto it twice?
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:45 PM
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23. And didn't he just say he wouldn't support a new measure?
If that's the case, then I can say he's right on at least this issue.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:49 PM
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24. He said no constitutional amendment
So basically its the law of CA now.

So we are basically waiting for a gay couple to move from CA or MA to another state and demand their marriage be recognized from a supreme court decision.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:40 PM
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22. Not likely
We don't have enough Wingers for this to tip the scales on all the other issues.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:25 PM
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4. The theosexuals have pretty much abandoned this issue.
Isn't raising the big bucks anymore. They had their moment to push through their agenda under Jr. and it didn't happen.

10 years from now we're gonna look back on this time probably laugh our asses off.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:29 PM
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8. Let the Repugs try it, Joe and Jane Sixpack is more
worried about their economic situation or that little Justin may end up going for a round of the IED lottery in Iraq, and Jennifer may end up flipping burgers instead of college than worrying about the domestic status of Adam and Steve down the block.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:31 PM
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10. Bullshit. It'll drag a couple more republican voters out in a state that has no chance of going red.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:33 PM
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11. I think it's lost it's efficacy......
Lots of people are worried about basic survival these days - $5 a gallon gas, multiplying job losses, skyrocketing food costs, health care, foreclosures etc etc. The economy has effectively killed the right's war of cultural wedge issues.

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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:33 PM
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12. frankly, I think the whole thing is passe at this point as a big issue
I think efforts to work up the Republican base at this point and time would be beating a dead horse.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 07:42 PM
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15. If we make it through this election, I will be proud of Americans for the first time
Edited on Thu May-15-08 07:53 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
Because the RW media is going to use ANY and EVERY ploy possible to divide us on race, gender, reproductive issues, religion, socioeconomic status, immigration issues, and now sexual orientation. It WILL NOT be easy, but I trust Obama, working with a team of brilliant advisers, will try his best.

If the people can FINALLY wake the Fck up and stop falling for this crap again and again, I will find a new respect in my heart. It would truly be a great day in America. Truly!
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 08:53 PM
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25. It's my understanding that the California Supreme Court has a Republican majority.
So when Republican judges made this decision, and both the Republican governor, and the Republican presidential nominee support it, who exactly are the 'Pukes going to vote for as "punishment" for this court decision?

I hate to give credit to 'Pukes for anything, but it looks like at least some of them still have partially functional brains.
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