If you are told your vote won't count in the GE what will you do?

[SIMPLYB1980]

I will vote anyway and demand it be counted!

[Spider Jerusalem]

1. If you're planning on voting for Hillary, your vote won't count.

She won't be running.

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[Zachstar]

10. Roe vs Wade does not mean much to you then I guess?

[SIMPLYB1980]

15. Means a lot to me which is why I want to count all the votes so as

not to have to worry about it being overturned because Obama supporters seem determined to throw this bone to the republicans, buy not counting peoples votes.

[Zachstar]

33. They are going to be counted.. Just not directly

There has to be punishment to the PEOPLE who did NOT go after politically the people in THEIR state that put them in such a position by moving it up.

Otherwise there is going to be hell to pay in upcoming primary seasons when states leapfrog each other ready to become controversy so the cameras and the business flood in.

It sucks but it has to happen.

[LisaM]

41. Punish voters. Yeah, THAT'S a useful strategy.

How hopeful and unifying.

[Zachstar]

45. I said people. Not everyone could waste their time voting in the sham of a primary.

Yet they together did not put the pressure on. This need to be a clear signal so that when states try to pull this crap in the future the people will be outraged at the people that work for THEM not the party.

Sorry but we got SERIOUS issues on earth that are going to require ACTIVE work to fix. No more bullshit sucking up. It is ones responsibility to be involved in the process and that includes raising your voice to the state when they are leading your vote into a black hole.

Otherwise we are just continuing the process of eroding state responsibility.

I want to Unite people to be active and WORK for change. Not sit on their ass and moan because they were screwed over by their STATE. We live in a country where you have the right to organize protest and make your voice known and the people decided to toss lawsuits and insults at the democratic party for doing its job rather than protesting the real assholes.

[babylonsister]

13. Hateful assholes? That's what you sound like. Just sayin'. nt

[SIMPLYB1980]

16. Coming from another hateful asshole I'll take that as a compliment.

:P

[babylonsister]

22. Go away. You're a bore, but I suspect you know that. nt

[SIMPLYB1980]

30. Or you could go away. You bore me to.

[RiverStone]

25. Oh yea, this attitude works wonders to bring the party together.

:sarcasm:

Either you join the fight against the pukes, or continue to throw fuel on the fire within.

How do posts like this help the Dems win this fall?

[SIMPLYB1980]

31. IDK how do all the hateful post about Clinton help?

[RiverStone]

34. They don't either --- we can only take personal responsibility

...for what we say.

And yes, I have shared the same concern for hate filled rants against Clinton.

Far more compelling is the need to unite and join forces against that war mongering puke bastard McSame. That should be our focus now.

[LisaM]

36. The ones that scare me the most are the ones that whine, "why can't we just declare Obama the winner

now?"....so that the Hillary people can't say anything about him.


That sounds to me as if they're rooting for suppression of speech. I know a lot has been said on both sides (though even the admins point out that there are more Obama people here - IMO a lot of Hillary people have been driven away or there have been efforts to TS them) - but is this really the tone Obama people want to take? Declare Obama the winner (someone even wanted DU to declare him the presumptive nominee two weeks ago!!!!) so that the voices you don't want to hear go away?

[Texas Hill Country]

40. me too. it is abhorrent.

[SIMPLYB1980]

37. I agree, but I will also focus attention where it is deserved even when not popular.

They need to count the votes it's as simple as that. I hate McSame and won't vote for him. I'll not vote at all before I vote for him. Or I could just wright Clinton in. I want to join forces, wanted to a long time ago, then the hate started (I truly believe that it was the Obama surrogates who started it.), and though I have been upset I have called consistently for us to put them both on the ticket in any order to foster some sense of uniting, sadly that always turns into a shit fest. So lets see what happens over the next few weeks, and I will see what my conscience tells me to do.

[RiverStone]

46. At this point I'm resolved that this won't end till after June 3rd.

As much as I believe the Dem party needs to end this ridiculously long process, we might as well let the voting finish. It is what Hillary wants and yet, I don't think it will change the outcome at all.

I hope by the time November rolls around, your conscience will tell you to vote for our party's nominee (and you know who I think that will be) - I truly think Obama = more world peace whereas McSame = more world war.

I admire your tenacity as an out numbered Hillary supporter on DU SIMPLYB1980 - we need that kind of tenacity on our team! :hi:

I disagree with you on who is to blame and frankly, it does not matter. Why even go there? The truth probably is in the middle someplace and another truth is we MUST unite to win. Obama needs Hillary supporters to win. Further negativity only aids McCain.

peace~

[SIMPLYB1980]

48. Thanks and though we don't agree on some things, mostly things that are unimportant

I do appreciate you fig leaf, hope your views in that regard rub off on people. At least we can agree on this we are not lock step fascists here in the Democratic party.:hi:

[mkultra]

35. they probably think the same of you.

[Independent-Voter]

2. Not a plausible scenerio, unlike the primaries.

But I'm sure you knew that.

[rucky]

"We don't have you on the rolls, but you can cast a provisional ballot..."

That'll happen millions of times in November.

[billyoc]

3. My vote never EVER counts in the GE. I live on the West Side of Manahattan,

it's around 98% democratic! :shrug:

[Aloha Spirit]

18. Well, the National Popular Vote Bill is poised to change that!

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

Hawai'i, Illinois, New Jersey and Maryland will be giving their electoral votes to the candidate who has the larger popular vote.

[harun]

21. Your vote still counts, just doesn't make much of a difference :-)

[redqueen]

4. In the GE? WTF are you talking about?

Are you in Puerto Rico?

:wtf:

[olkaz]

5. This is a ludicrous "what if", but I'll play.

I'll start a campaign immediately to make sure that the votes do count, before any of the voting starts, so everything is on the level.

Instead of crying foul after my candidate loses.

[lligrd]

6. Find Out Who Was Responsible For Causing My Vote

not to count and throw the bums out of office. I'd be picketing and demanding the idiots who caused it to happen be removed from office immediately.

[SIMPLYB1980]

11. Well that would be the republicans that moved up the primary's to cause this problem,

so I hope we do.

[AtomicKitten]

17. The FL Dems moved up the primary, changed their minds & the Repubs laughed and said no dice.

The predicament FL and MI find themselves in is entirely of their own making, and Hillary signed on to the disposition of the consequence, in fact her people constructed the agreement.

You can keep trying to muddy the waters with this nonstop propaganda campaign, but I assure you Democrats know EXACTLY what is going on.

[lligrd]

26. Good Idea. I Think You Have Some Dems To Reconsider Too

if you are in Florida. And obviously you need to fix the corrupted voting machine as well. You've got quite an agenda there. Good luck!

[Vinca]

8. Why wouldn't your vote count in the general election?

Did Hillary sign another agreement that they wouldn't count?

[Zachstar]

9. Ah it must be getting close to decision time so the Clintons are pushing this crap again.

First of all Voting in the GE is a RIGHT!

Voting for the nominee of a PARTY is determined by its rules. If you do not like it you can vote for another party.

Don't try to twist the issue.

[Jack Bone]

12. an oldie but a goodie......

"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

Are we ever sure that our votes count? :tinfoilhat: :shrug:

[goclark]

14. The OBAMA rallies in Michigan indicated

that those present were really happy about something. :)

They didn't seem angry at all.

I have many friends in the state and their take on it is, let the the delegates be seats and let's move on.


Now Florida is another story ~ Rethugs stole the votes there and the Democrats in FL have something to complain about if they wanted to. Seems like they allowed the Rethugs to roll over them when the decision was made.

Why didn't they bitterly complain at that time?


So they may have another take on it.

I like the idea of FOLLOW THE RULES, don't force them to be changed when your choice is not winning by the RULES.

It speaks volumes about the FORCE TEAM.

[ima_sinnic]

19. call the WAAAAHMBULANCE!! another irretrievably "crushed" Hill supporter who doesn't like the rules!

why are you so disingenuously talking about the GE when you mean, in fact, the primaries?

do you always try to compare apples and oranges?

educate yourself on the difference.

[harun]

20. It is impossible for you vote not to count in the GE, if you follow the rules anyway

You can always write in a name if the person you want isn't listed.

[demokatgurrl]

23. I'd vote anyway. It's my right. n/t

[mohc]

24. If your state moved up its general election day a week

And announced its results that night, then in fact those votes would almost certainly not count. Of course the federal government would almost certainly step in and force the state to hold its election on the legally binding date, something the DNC could not do in the primary.

[Lerkfish]

27. If you're talking about a write-in vote then I suggest you vote McCain

because then your vote WOULD count for something. At least, since you'd be enabling his victory either way, at least you could say you voted for an actual candidate.

[Youphemism]

28. Even When Your Candidate Asks You?

When Hillary says that the issues that are so important to her must not be allowed to be crushed by McCain, and that loyal supporters of hers should show their loyalty by voting for Obama...

Even then, you plan to turn your back on the principles she's fighting for?

I don't understand how people can so easily write off such important decisions over personality angst. There is not *that much* difference between the platform of Hillary and the platform of Obama. Why throw away all those beliefs because you have issues with the one who is delivering your message to Washington?

I continue to be confused by all this. I would be asking the same questions of Obama supporters if the positions were reversed.

[Youphemism]

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[mmonk]

38. If I told you your vote will be overturned by the "judgement"

of super delegates what will you do?

[SIMPLYB1980]

43. When did that happen I missed the headline.

[Texas Hill Country]

39. absolutely.

[DefenseLawyer]

42. Until this year my vote in the Indiana primary has never "counted"

for shit. Oh well. I can't believe I have stayed in the party after being disenfranchised all these years.

[Samantha]

44. SAME THING I DID IN 2000 WHEN THE SC NULLIFIED MY VOTE

along with 51 million others. Lodge the same type of protests and boycotts and become even more active in politics. Contribute more money to my candidates and write scathing reviews against the offending parties.

[blogslut]

47. You are aware that the primary problems with MI and FLA have no affect on the GE, right?

Michigan and Florida will still vote in the GE. The winners will still garner electoral votes from each state.