How long will DUers be allowed to trash the nominee & his supporters?

[redqueen]

Barring some miracle that benefits Hillary, Obama IS our nominee.

It's gonna be kinda annoying watching appeal after appeal for a "truce" while we put up with the hater spam from people who refuse to acknowledge reality.

[Eurobabe]

1. Why I have over 200 people still on ignore

I don't see alot of the hate-mongering against Obama.

[AllentownJake]

4. Wish I would have kept mine there

I thought there is no way she can continue after losing IN and NC.

I was sadly mistaken.

[SoFlaJet]

6. (typical smarty pants response goes...)

oh yea use your Bill O'Reilly voice while saying...."I" don't HAVE to put people on ignore because of my superior intellectual prowess

[Eurobabe]

12. I admitted a long time ago that

the only way to keep my superior intellectual powers was to not tax my beautiful mind with Asshats who spew trash.

:hi:

[Renew Deal]

20. I don't anyone on ignore you chickenshit sheltered baby

:evilgrin:

:pals:

[PoliticalAmazon]

53. I don't either. In fact, I avoid looking at posters' names when I read...

their posts because I don't wan any preconeived ideas about the post to get in the way of an unbiased response.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

77. That's the most beautiful story I've ever heard.

:*

[Cha]

129. Ain't that

the truth.:*

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. you like circle jerks?

[Buzz Clik]

24. I'm much more fond of eliptical fingerbanging sessions.

[bunnies]

34. ....

:spray: :rofl: Now my face hurts. Thanks for the laugh!

[cliffordu]

133. I absolutely agree....

:rofl:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

30. You just validated why you deserve to be ignored. Good one.

[Lerkfish]

41. you mean like this one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=334

oh, and here's you fellows avocating an ignore list:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=334&topic_id=11357&mesg_id=11357

[stevenleser]

121. I have the author of #22 on ignore as well as the author of the links you included

;-)

Why dont I feel like I am missing something?
:rofl:

[Buzz Clik]

23. 200? I thought I was excessive with 80+

[ElsewheresDaughter]

35. even 80 is a tad excessive due to the fact that their are only about 8 Hillary peeps left in GDP

[Lerkfish]

43. ignore lists are allowed by the site administrator

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=334&topic_id=11357&mesg_id=11357

[ElsewheresDaughter]

46. meh

[Lerkfish]

56. hmm. I don't have my "inarticulate grunt" to english dictionary handy

shame.

[Buzz Clik]

125. Well, they aren't all Hillary supporters.

My tolerance for silliness of all kinds has gone to zero. Roughly one quarter of my Ignores sport Obama avatars or claim to be Obama supporters.

[msallied]

108. I have maybe five. I admit that I am rather drawn to the art of arguing. lol

[MediaBabe]

37. I have two people on ignore and I don't see Obama hatemongering either

Think about it.

[redqueen]

42. That's supposed to be a joke, right?

Nevermind...

[MediaBabe]

51. Got a link to recently posted threads hatemongering Obama?

No one else does.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

55. I'd post one for ya, but you have me on ignore.

[MediaBabe]

59. I have only two people on ignore for obsenity

Do you post obsenity?

Waiting for the link to a thread trashing Obama. Or just type out the thread title and I'll find it. If you can find one. No one else has.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

76. "Obama Sucks Shit" work for you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5996267&mesg_id=5997757

[redqueen]

91. *crickets*

I guess it did!

:rofl:

[cliffordu]

134. I guess I'm on your ignore list, too...

Sorry.

[cliffordu]

135. Yep, me too.. I wonder how many folks have me on their ignorant lists...

[cliffordu]

132. You could probably sell that list.......

[Beacool]

145. 200 people?????????

Why, your guy is real popular if you have to have 200 people on ignore.

I have no one on ignore, that's for cowards.

[Ian_rd]

2. I'm sure the Admins have a condition in mind.

Hillary will, of course, continue her campaign into 2009. But I'm sure the DU Admins have alread established a condition where Obama-bashing is no longer welcome. Maybe a certain delegate count, whether it be the actual one per the rules, or Hillary's preferred count, or maybe even the nominating convention.

[newmajority]

7. The convention?

No way that this shit is going to continue until August 28. It certainly didn't in 2004.

[anamnua]

110. Sounds like good old-fashioned totalitarian censorship.

A harbinger of what we can expect if there is 'Obamanation'alisation

[Beacool]

146. Yep, it's the Borg.

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

:puke:

[tridim]

3. As soon as the admins are "punched" we can take over this place!

j/k admins. Sort of. ;)

[MediaBabe]

66. I know that's what you want But it will be DU not OU

I know you envision this an Obama Underground but you came here to Democratic Underground and that's what it will remain.

[olkaz]

5. I have been wondering about this all day. It's like we're sharing the site with Free Republic.

It needs to end, now.

[Name removed]

21. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[JVS]

67. Right on!

[MediaBabe]

68. Got a link to those 'free republic' threads?

Nobody else does. I'm beginning to think they don't exist. Even locked threads still have links.

[Beacool]

147. No, you are sharing the site with Democrats

who do not support Obama nor think that he's the next Messiah.

Since when do Democrats act as a collective???

This Borg mentally is sick.

[Erin Elizabeth]

8. Truce?

How about all the "here's how you can kiss my ass" or the "here is the list of things I never want to hear" and shit like that?

It's amazing. And I don't mean amazing in a "wow you just did a triple one-handed roundoff!" kinda way, but a "wow, there are just no words to respond to something that crazy!"

Wait. I think that's the kind of thing you're talking about when you say hater spam. Nevermind! LOL.

[K Gardner]

11. Like the Obamanoid Piehole Chart.. this place is disgusting.

[YOY]

13. Posted by the "Edwards Supporter" no less

The one that gets all pissy when you point out the math to him...

[redqueen]

16. Hahahah... yes, exactly what I mean.

I enjoyed reading your description of what kind of crazy you mean. Thanks. :)

[Occam Bandage]

9. From one week after Obama hits 2025, I'd bet.

[redqueen]

18. I guess I'm just gonna have to do the Ignore thing.

And avoid certain forums.

But I'm not gonna be happy about it.

Common sense is not as common as it should be.

x(

[NightWatcher]

10. when he hits 2025 delegates (if not already), I believe the tombstones should start flying

I've read some truly disgusting stuff here that needs to be packed up and shipped to Freeper Land

[nomaco-10]

49. There's about three of them that I can't wait to dance on their...

tiny little granite graves. I thought 2004 was bad, but that was nothing compared to this shit.

[MediaBabe]

69. Where is this "truly disgusting stuff"? Give me a link.

Or as they used to say - Put up or shut.

[merh]

14. .

[Beacool]

148. Now, that's Freeper shit, but you Obamanites won't complain about it.

Right???????

Bunch of hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!

[tabasco]

158. A photograph of H. Clinton and a cartoon from the Atlanta Journal Constitution

is not "freeper shit." It is reality.

[Avalux]

15. Once it's official.

From the DU rules:

Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office.

Do not post broad-brush smears against Democrats or the Democratic Party.

[RiverStone]

26. What will constitute official?

Hillary may choose to take it all the way to the convention - even if/when Obama has enough delegates to win.

Wolfson said she would not consider an exit until FLA/MI are seated - that could drag this mess all the way into August.

IMO, if party leadership declares Obama as our nominee and the delegate majority and voters declare him as our nominee - so should DU follow that lead.

[Avalux]

27. Here's Skinner's post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4798898&mesg_id=4798898

I was thinking when Obama reached the magic number of delegates the primary wars would end, but he doesn't say anything about a number. :shrug: I don't think it'll be that much longer though.

[RiverStone]

60. Is DU's magic number 2025 (per the DNC rules)?

I have no clue if Skinner would see assuming the 2025 number as assuming a "partison position" on DU.

Of course, just recently Hillary changed that number to 2210.

This may or may not be a more relevant question the week of June 3rd.

[Zhade]

137. Great, so we have to wait until the liar finally accepts her loss?

She's not going to drop out even though she can't win. This shit is going to go until AUGUST.

Swell.

[BlooInBloo]

17. It's safest to act as though they'll never stop, and simply lump them in...

With republicans and other anti-Obama people.

[City Lights]

19. Until one week after HRC drops out. nt

[Scriptor Ignotus]

25. i've put all the offenders on ignore

I highly recommend it.

[Zhade]

138. The problem with that is it allows smears against the nominee to go unchecked.

I don't think Skinner and crew will like that.

[Writer]

28. Heck - how much longer will DU'ers be able to trash Bill and Hillary Clinton?

What goes one way must also go the other.

[LSK]

29. why? Will Bill or Hillary be in some race of importance

That would need all of us to rally around them???

[Writer]

44. They're Democrats.

Bill is the former Democratic POTUS and Hillary is in the Senate.

[LSK]

63. do they know that?

[Writer]

79. Yes. n/t

[Skittles]

119. I hear you, Writer

I am absolutely sick of the Clinton trashing too

[Zhade]

139. And? We're allowed to criticize them (pointing out their lies and race-baiting isn't trashing).

Deal with it by either acceptance or vacating the premises.

[Beacool]

149. Race baiting my ass!!!!!!!!!!

Obama's camp knows how to play that game to their advantage too.

[newmajority]

48. When they stop killing the Democratic party and our nominee, maybe?

This latest example from Bill is just sickening..... "Republicans are more progressive" because they caved on Florida & Michigan??

and before that it was "If we did the primaries the way Republicans did, Hillary would win".

I think Bill's "new" friends, the Bush Crime Family, have brainwashed him.

[redqueen]

52. She and Bill BOTH have praised Republicans over Dems.

This was old long ago... now it's just... baffling.

[Writer]

74. His point is that Democrats aren't having their votes counted.

This was a reference back to 2000.

And I agree with him. I think the way the DNC handled the Michigan/Florida situations was dogmatic and will be hurtful to the party come November.

[olkaz]

103. Uh, they won't be part of the conversation anymore. Problem solved.

I don't really see what your point is.

[MH1]

118. Until one of them is actively a candidate in a general election again.

I guess you didn't notice how nasty the trashing of John Kerry was at this site for a LONG time after 2004...in fact it still goes on in certain quarters.

Funny, most of the posters that used to trash Kerry (and were allowed to do that here at DU), came out as Hillary supporters and are on a huge number of ignore lists for the trash they post now about Obama.

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[crankychatter]

32. When Clinton drops out I reckon

Register voters
use ignore
enjoy Springtime

it's sweet out here... I dunno about where you are

I'm going fishing soon

On busy nights when the ignore function goes down... that's when I want to hear supportive discussion the most...

and have to sift through the bullshit... so it's annoying

[redqueen]

36. I'm sick.

Spring is not my friend. :(

But yeah... ignore. I'm back to that. Bleh.

[backscatter712]

33. Just wait until Tuesday, when Obama gets the pledged delegate majority.

Assuming Skinner doesn't shut the show down by declaring Obama to be the presumptive nominee, we'll get the Schadenfreude of seeing the Hill-Shills get even more unraveled and deranged.

[MediaBabe]

61. "Hill-Shills... unraveled and deranged." But only Obama gets trashed here, right?

You don't even see the trashing you yourself write.

[emilyg]

38. Till there is a nominee.

[TheDonkey]

97. There isn't a nominee to the convention. DU ADMIN need to STEP UP and make a call before that!!!

STOP BEING PANSIES. GET SOME TESTICLES! In other words if Clinton surrogate smears have more emotion. DU ADMIN!? ARE YOU LISTENING OR JUST MAKING JOKES.

[emilyg]

116. Get your own site.

[MethuenProgressive]

39. Red, orange, green, blue, and yellow all in one mod-call-out broad brush attack post!

Might be a record!

[redqueen]

40. It's not a mod-call-out.

Jesus.

[crankychatter]

47. lol... careful now... you'll be writin' in disappearin' ink like old Cranky Man

:rofl:

[anamnua]

45. You guys will just have to get the message that this is *Democratic*

Underground and not *Obama* Underground.

[Lerkfish]

54. but it is Clinton underground?

[MediaBabe]

62. *smile* Thanks.

[tridim]

70. Exactly, that's why we want to stop trashing the DEMOCRATIC nominee.

Do you still not understand?

[Lerkfish]

83. clearly, they want the right to trash Obama, but prevent us from criticizing Clinton

as per usual.

[BenDavid]

50. Excuse me, but I and I suspect many others here on the DU will

stay with HRC till she decides the last dog has died. No one is trashing obama. We do not need to trash someone has unqualifed as this man is. We speak what many millions know about him.

"Of the 29 primaries since New Hampshire from which delegates have been allocated,
Obama has won 15. But in doing so, he got a majority of the white votes in just five of
the 29 contests. And while winning three of the eight primaries held since March 4,
Obama won a majority of the white vote in only one — Vermont."
-- Dwayne Wickham, AA, USA Today "Obama's Vulnerability: White Voters"

[K Gardner]

58. The White Vote again from you.. what a shock.

[Name removed]

65. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[tridim]

71. You've been trashing our Democratic nominee for months.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[rodeodance]

99. as opposed to posters who smear the other Dem candidate! Obama is NOT the nominee

[Zhade]

141. Pointing out her proven lies and race-baiting isn't smearing.

NT!

[tabasco]

159. We tell the truth about H. Clinton and you call it smearing.

[LowerManhattanite]

72. You...are a sad, pathetic, single-issue blight on this board.

While my ignore list isn't huge, it IS populated with obvious trolls and disruptors. You've been here a long time and that I suppose has inoculated you from that drastic decision by me.

No more. your unhealthy obsession with race, and your steady race-baiting has moved you there.

I'd say “get help”, but you're clearly beyond it, Karma will deal with you as it deals with you.

[Zhade]

140. "has {sic} unqualifed as this man is"

You just trashed him.

That won't be allowed soon, thankfully.

[Texas Hill Country]

57. HE IS NOT THE NOMINEE. please stop saying that. Wait two friggin weeks!!!

[Lerkfish]

64. so, you want two more weeks to trash Obama?

okeydoke, that should give me two more weeks to trash Hillary.

[K Gardner]

78. exactly.

[Texas Hill Country]

86. i have that person on ignore, so *shrug*

[Avalux]

75. I'm sorry, I really am.

You've fought your heart out for Hillary here so I can understand why you want to wait as long as possible. I sincerely hope you find a way to support Obama once he is officially the nominee. :hi:

[Texas Hill Country]

90. when he officially becomes the nominee, then i will rethink my support.

[Lerkfish]

102. "rethink"? that means you don't know if you'll support the nominee?

what are your other choices, then?

[MonkeyFunk]

73. How long are Obama supporters

allowed to bitch and whine? Seemingly forever...

[Lerkfish]

82. I believe you're projecting again on behalf of some clinton supporters...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5966958&mesg_id=5966958

[MonkeyFunk]

89. Nope

no projecting. Just pointing out what I see. You guys trash Clinton with every lie, right-wing smear and made-up scenario imaginable, but if somebody posts a news story that's not flattering to Obama, you run screaming to the mods that he's being trashed.

I wish nobody had ever started trying to use this site to tear down democrats, but i didn't get that wish. And I find it smarmy and hypocritical for you guys to whine this badly.

Skinner has already stated what the situation is. Accept it or go somewhere else.

[Lerkfish]

101. why would I go somewhere else?

I'm not the one trashing the eventual nominee.

again, you're projecting.

[golddigger]

115. No, but you like to make hit lists from another site. And don't tell me I'm a liar.

Because I'll be happy to post it.

[Lerkfish]

126. why would I call you a liar? you're telling the truth, except for the "hit" part

I openly admitted I had an ignore list. An ignore list is NOT a "hit" list. The fact that you equate the two speaks to your own paranoia and lack of a secure grip on reality.

:shrug:

[Zhade]

143. The Tuzla video wasn't a lie.

The pro-NAFTA meetings she held weren't a lie.

Her race-baiting wasn't a lie.

Her willingness to obliterate Iran wasn't a lie.

[sniffa]

80. edit

whoops - I meant this for the other thread.

[Solon]

81. As long as he is a centrist...

I want the man to win, however, I also want him to be worth the trouble in the first place, and Obama the candidate isn't worth the trouble...yet. Let's make sure that when Obama is President, that he will make his Presidency live up to at least some of our expectations.

[dailykoff]

84. Regards to all on planet clueless.

:hi:

[ClassWarrior]

87. At least one expert believes he'll live up to them. But only...

...if WE hold him to it. CUNY Professor Frances Fox Piven on a recent Democracy Now!:

You know, in 1932, FDR didn’t run with a good program; he ran with the same program the Democrats had run with in 1924 and 1928, and that wasn’t a good program. But nevertheless, his rhetoric encouraged people who were suffering as a result of the Depression — working people, the unemployed — and helped to fuel the movements, which then forced FDR to support initiatives which he otherwise would not have supported, including the right to organize...

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/6/super_tuesday_roundtable_with_bill_fletcher

NGU.

[Solon]

88. He'll need to be dragged to the left, kicking and screaming...

that much is clear. I just hope this "movement" of his actually wants that, otherwise it may be all for naught. With that, I'm going to the doctor, really wish I didn't have to pay out of pocket for this shit, but what are the uninsured to do?

[redqueen]

92. As we SHOULD HAVE DONE with Bill Clinton.

Instead, Clinton BARELY won, and shifted rightward from day 1.

All we can do is all we can do. Bitching about how slim our chances are doesn't help jack shit, and you should know it.

[ClassWarrior]

123. I'm ready to do some dragging. How about you?

NGU.

[Solon]

128. Willing, ready and able...

its going to be an upward battle though.

[Sparkly]

85. Depends on what you mean by "trash."

If I recall correctly, people were able to criticize Kerry extremely harshly up until the election. The lines seem to be drawn at suggesting or advocating that we vote for a non-Democratic candidate or stay home from voting, and "trashing" that's on the level of the worst rightwing sites is not allowed now.

[redqueen]

93. Yeah... I don't remember exactly what was allowed with Kerry...

but I think you may be right... the Skull and BOOOOOONES! crap went on right up till the end, didn't it?

*sigh*

[Life Long Dem]

94. I don't put up with garbage.

Take the garbage out and use the dump feature, or what is called in this day and age the ignore feature. :woohoo:

[LoZoccolo]

95. !

:wow:

[redqueen]

98. What?!

What'd I do?

[LoZoccolo]

124. Ha I just wouldn't expect you to post something like that. n/t

[TexasObserver]

96. yeah, I just throw them in dumpster as soon as they show up

This board is readable and tolerable only because I decided a while ago to put all these Obama haters on ignore. I don't even finish reading their first post. I hit the red X, and in seconds that troublemaker is gone from my screen forever. Every day I add the newly recycled posters to the list, and that keeps the viewing screen clean.

I can read the mad rantings of McCain agents and other Republican agents anywhere on the internets. I'm not reading them here. All those pretending to be concerned Democrats here wailing about Obama soil my screen, so I rid myself of them, like the infestation they are.

[Swamp Rat]

100. I'm sure we are going to see some "change" at DU pretty soon.

:D

[D23MIURG23]

127. .

:rofl:


Thank you for that.

[VotesForWomen]

104. doesn't really matter. ask President Kerry about that. nt

[Two Americas]

105. forever

I hope that we never suppress dissent. It is essential for a healthy democracy that the citizens criticize their politicians and leaders. There is also no benefit or value to be derived from enforcing group think, and no validity to thinking that rah rah cheer leading and hero worship help defeat the right wingers or will bring voters to the party. The opposite may well be true.

[ScreamingMeemie]

106. I don't trash (per se') the supporters of either one of these poor

excuses for candidates. I just don't like either candidate, and the goofiness of (a lot) of their supporters makes it more so. On the day of the Convention, I will cease to speak about either candidate (whomever becomes the candidate) and I will be done for what is supposed to be the "National Dem" Party and put all my focus on true Dem candidates in Local elections...in people who do what they say, are what they are-People I can be proud of. Neither/Nor of our national candidates does, or ever will do, that for me. That doesn't make me any less Dem...it makes me a person standing up for what I (as a Dem) feel is the right thing to do at this point.

[redqueen]

107. See that's not trashing... that's having an opinion and stating it reasonably.

I'm a Kucitizen. So you know I'd prefer a more liberal alternative.

But we have what we have to work with... so be it.

And yeah... downticket races are just as important. Thanks for working on those. :hi:

[ScreamingMeemie]

109. You, redqueen, have never been obsessive about it. PassingFair

has not been either. She just realizes that I am done. Would that Kucinich could run and win. This is what we need right now.

[redqueen]

111. Don't I know it.

*sigh*

I actually got a crush on that guy... I'm such a fangirl. :blush:

[2rth2pwr]

112. Another person who has no clue what's going on.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4798898

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

113. Grow Up And Get A Grip. We Don't Have A Nominee Yet.

When we DO have a nominee, you'll know it. Until then, settle down, get a grip, relax your fringed nerves, and let the process play out.

[barb162]

120. Exactly what I was thinking! n/t

There's no nominee yet.

[U4ikLefty]

150. Yes, once the ex-WalMart board-member (Hillary) drops out,

the anti-choice SUV-drivers can STFU and support the Democratic nominee for President.

[highplainsdem]

114. If Hillary is the VP, will the Hillary-bashing stop?

I think there's a very good chance she will be, assuming Obama is the nominee, which looks most likely at this point.

And as a Hillary supporter who still plans to vote for Obama, I'd like the Hillary-bashing to stop.

[Name removed]

117. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Kaylee]

122. Why would you link to that racist bs?

If anything this primary season has ripped the mask right off of some "so called" Dems. If it is supposed to be a joke...it isn't very funny.

[sniffa]

130. How long will a DUer be able to play shrink and collect data

on Obama supporters?

:o

[HuffleClaw]

131. 'allow' ????

this will not be decided until the convention

and labeling criticism of Obama as 'hater spam' is just downright wrong.


as for 'allow', whatever happened to freedom of speech?

[BlooInBloo]

136. :) This is the way the game works, tiger. Take a breather if you need. :)

EDIT: We'll all be here when you get back. Well, most of us at least. ;)

[dchill]

142. How long? Three more days.

There, it's official - feel better? :)

[Beacool]

144. He hasn't been anointed yet, so deal!!! n/t

[dchill]

151. Oh - it's almost 3:00 am - Two more days!

:)

[TexasObserver]

152. How long has this been going on?

How long?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaL7HoC1BE0&feature=related

and if you're going to hear Paul Carrick sing that one with ACE, you have to hear this one with Squeeze

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUA7F9j_xzs

[WinkyDink]

153. Why don't you PM an Admin, if you're so concerned?

[Perry Logan]

154. We could smear Obama for the next 2000 years and not catch up with the Hillary-bashers.

[Blondbostonian]

155. Bullshit

I"m reading on Taylor Marsh and Hillary is 44, death threats and just out and out racial idiocy.

You posted that idiotic "Whitey" tape nonsense that's been locked now for the fifth time this weekend?

I remember you from JREF. You got banned from there also. It won't be long before you're gone from here too with the rate you're going.

[madrchsod]

157. death threats? really?

death threats are treated very serious by the ss and the fbi...ask the guys who run stormfront...they had to turn over the posters information who made a death threat to the fbi or the guys who run stormfront would be jailed.

stormfront has a very strict moderating policy to never let any threat post stay up for over a few seconds on their site.

[madrchsod]

156. they will be on ignore as soon as obama is official

i used to have 50 on ignore but i gave that up.