Hillary has a link to email the DNC about FL/MI. No reason everyone can't use it to tell them NO!!!

[nonobadfish]

It's an open site, so Obama fans should use it to tell the DNC what we think about seating Florida and Michigan as well as Hillary fans. It doesn't state that it is only to be used if your position agrees with her, so let's let the DNC know ALL of our thoughts on this....not just the one-sided thoughts.
Here's the link (it came from Ben Smith at Politico:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/action/flmidnc/?sc=1855&utm_source=1855&utm_medium=e

[Kittycat]

1. I already did exactly that.

50/50 split for MI & 50% vote for FL.

[PoliticalAmazon]

64. I didn't because there's the possibility that HRC's software is....

capturing all the email addresses, and filtering out the "no" comments.

I just don't trust her and her people. I doubt I ever will again, either.

[RainDog]

103. so what?

if so, her campaign will know that she is persona non grata for millions of democrats.

[Kittycat]

106. That's okay - at least her campaign will get the message. I've...

already sent my note to the DNC regarding the situation. What I sent through her website was no different.

[stray cat]

2. I said changing the rules disinfrachises the very voters who took the DNC seriously and didn't vote

[Skip Intro]

3. Dear DNC, please tell Democcratic voters in FL and MI to fuck off.

Also, please tell Democratic voters in PA and MA they can go to hell.

Also, please tell Democratic voters in WV and KY that they are inbred racist simpletons and that we no longer recognize their states as part of the union.

And tell AR to hit the road too. And tell NH they better watch their fucking step.

ON TO NOVEMBER!

HOPE. CHANGE. UNITY.

YAY!

[anonymous171]

5. We have 50 states. PA, WV, KY, MA aren't any more/less important than any others.

[DrDan]

16. nor are Fl and Mich

[Qutzupalotl]

74. Right, they all have to play by the same rules.

[jgraz]

6. No, just tell the bitter dead-enders to fuck off

The rest of us will be voting for Obama in the fall. Including all of the Democrats in FL and MI.

Tell me, Skip, what will you be doing?

[Skip Intro]

9. Yeah, I'm sure the FL Dems will come out strong to support a party that told them their votes were

worthless just a few months earlier.

What will I be doing in Nov? Not that I owe anyone any answer on that question, but I will tell you that I plan to be celebrating new, strong Dem majorities in the House and Senate.

[jgraz]

12. Not if you have anything to do with it, eh?

If you really wanted strong Dem majorities in Congress, you'd be supporting the candidate who DOESN'T drive Democrats away from the polls.

[Skip Intro]

14. ...

:rofl:


you have got to be kidding me

[jgraz]

20. Who has higher negatives? Certainly you can't spin that.

[jgraz]

29. * cricket noise * cricket noise * cricket noise * cricket noise *

[Skip Intro]

45. Working, sunshine. From what I've read, their negatives are about even.

[jgraz]

48. Hillary has succeeded in raising O's negatives, but they're still not at her level.

After the worst couple of weeks in Obama's campaign, still more people have an unfavorable view of Hillary than they do of Obama. A couple more weeks and Obama's unfavorables should be back down in the 20's.

Hillary, on the other hand, has never had below 40% unfavorables. She's been as high as 51%, with Obama running a kid-glove campaign. If she had managed to steal the nomination, you'd have seen a Repug noise machine like never before. It would be wall-to-wall Clenis, Vince Foster, Rose Law Firm and Norman Hsu (to name just a few things that Obama could have thrown at her).

[rodeodance]

70. typical. blame it onto Hillary. Accept that he is a GOD.

[Citizen_Penn]

75. TYPICAL.

your comments continue to bore us all.

[jgraz]

89. Do you even listen to your own Queen? It's been her stated strategy.

Stated explicitly by her incompetent minions in several pressers. What reality are you living in?

[DrDan]

21. I agree with you Skip

I am a Florida Dem. And I am PISSED about being made a second-class citizen.

[jgraz]

27. And I'm sure you're pissed at your Repug legislature who moved the primary.

Aren't you? You certainly wouldn't be so addle-brained as to blame the DNC, who just enforced the rules, would you?

[DrDan]

31. yes I am

and yes, I also blame the DNC. I think both are simply trying to grab for some power.


I am capable of a mature conversation about this. Why don't you ease up a bit and try. No need for insults.

[jgraz]

37. Sorry. This con-game by the Clintons makes me see red.

Don't you understand the implied threat here? Hillary is saying that we either accept her (new) view of the "rules", or the Dems can kiss MI and FL goodbye in the fall.

A real Democrat, a real patriot, would never say that. Hillary, as usual, is putting her own desires ahead of the needs of party and country. And it may cost us two key states this fall.

She needs to start acting like a real Democrat and quit fanning the flames over this controversy. She can't win either way, but yet she keeps pushing it. Why do you think that is?

[DrDan]

43. I am not a Hillary supporter. I am concerned however, that to ignore

the Democrats from 2 states could jeopardize a golden opportunity.

I listen to all 3 candidates with a jaundiced ear. All 3 want to win and will employ tactics to that end. Why not just count the votes and seat the delegates. It will not make any difference in the candidate selection - I think we agree with that. Then we can get to the issues that will take a Dem to the White House. Lets get rid of this divisise issue. It just further erodes any unity we still have. It is using up valuable energy.

I would like to rid this country of these neo-cons that are ruining this country - in the White House, in the Senate and in Congress. To do so, we need to start at the local levels. We need Dems elected in Florida, Michigan, WVa, Ky, ald all the rest of the states. These kinds of issues only keep the neo-cons in office as they divide our party.

[jgraz]

44. The best way to remedy that is the tell the truth about Florida

That is was the Repug legislators who deliberately screwed with the primary, and THEY are to blame for the problem. We can also point out the number of compromise solutions that the Clinton camp rejected because they knew it would cost them delegates.

The bottom line is that Hillary NEVER wanted Florida counted. She wants them left hanging to justify her continued destruction of Obama on the way to a McCain presidency and another Clinton campaign in 2012.

[DrDan]

49. yes - the Repugs once again outplayed the Dems

They are much better at politicin' than we are. And we are playing right into their hands in fueling a divisive issue.

And for no reason right now - as the candidate selection is done.

[jgraz]

50. Then tell the Clintons to quit pushing the bullshit "popular vote" meme

As long as she continues, the DNC has no choice but to leave out MI and FL. Otherwise, seating them would open Obama up to a challenge to his legitimacy as the clear nominee.

I guarantee, if they dropped their popular vote bullshit, FL and MI would be resolved within a matter of days.

[DrDan]

52. She is a politician - she wants to win - she needs to spin the votes

Everyone knows how the candidate will be selected. Everyone know who the candidate is.

We can expect worse spin from the repubs once that begins to heat up. Look at junior's comments yesterday.

This is an election - the throw stuff out there and see what sticks.

[jgraz]

58. But she should not put politics before the future of her country. And that's what she's doing

"She's a politician" doesn't excuse everything. No "politician" has gone after a national primary opponent the way Clinton has.

[rodeodance]

72. what a little DRAMA Queen you are.

[jgraz]

83. C'mon, you only have a few weeks left here. Try posting one thing of value before you go.

[DrDan]

93. you are forgetting bush's felonious sneak-attack on mccain in south

carolina in 2004. That was reprehensible.

[jgraz]

94. Yeah, that's the level of behavior we want as Democrats

:eyes:

[DrDan]

96. no - obviously we don't

but there are examples of this in all elections.

I am not trying to justify it - I find the Kerry's swiftboating and the cowardly attacks on Max Cleland to be criminal. I am a veteran and was personally offended by the hypocritical attacks by the republican cowards.

But I am pragmatic enough to know that politicians will resort to a lot of behavior that we do not approve of to win. And that applies to both sides of politics.

[jgraz]

97. Note that all your examples are REPUBLICAN attacks

Doesn't that tell you something about Hillary's methods? When is the last time we've seen a Democrat behave in this manner?

[DrDan]

99. of course - not surprisingly

I noticed that as well. On this site, we think in terms of republicans and dirty tricks. We do not dwell on the bad politics of the Dems. Well . . . . except for Hillary of course.

But I am not naive enough to believe the Dems are all that innocent. Lyndon Johnson and Richard Daly quickly come to mind.

[MagickMuffin]

88. The Florida Democrats VOTED WITH THE REPUBLICONS, ONLY ONE OBJECTED

So, it wasn't just the republicons who GAMED the system. The Florida Democrats are just as guilty and should be held accountable.

[MagickMuffin]

86. Here's my view about your response

Texas also considered moving up our primary. We were told that if we did we would jepordize our delegates according to the DNC RULES. Texas did the Right thing and held our primary according to the DNC RULES.

Democratic Texans were ready to stop the Texas Democratic Party from BREAKING THE RULES by voicing our objections.



Now then I guess no one could have predicated that the Primaries WOULD COUNT IN ALL 50 STATES, this year. But there IT IS.



Why did Florida BREAK THE RULES?.?.?


Did the Floridians Democrats let their voices be known to the Florida Democratic Party?.?.?

Don't you think if they are allowed to BREAK THE DNC RULES, that in the future it could mean that States will not want to follow the the DNC RULES and do whatever they want because there will be no penalties suffered for BREAKING THE DNC RULES?.?.?



You mentioned your down ticket votes.

Why are TWO OF YOUR US REPRESENTATIVES REFUSING TO CAMPAIGN TO UNSEAT TWO OF THEIR REPUBLICONS US REPRESENTATIVES?.?.?

Which by the way one IS stirring the pot and IS a Clinton supporter.



Why is everyone Freaking out when the DNC is meeting at the end of May to decide how to seat the FL & MI delegates?.?.?

[DrDan]

95. in response

"Democratic Texans were ready to stop the Texas Democratic Party from BREAKING THE RULES by voicing our objections."

I don't think you can compare the politics in any particular state to another. I would personally not criticize your voters one way or another. The political contexts are so different.


"Did the Floridians Democrats let their voices be known to the Florida Democratic Party?.?.?"

I can't speak for anyone else. I did follow the issue and took the action I thought was appropriate.


"Why are TWO OF YOUR US REPRESENTATIVES REFUSING TO CAMPAIGN TO UNSEAT TWO OF THEIR REPUBLICONS US REPRESENTATIVES?.?.?"

"Which by the way one IS stirring the pot and IS a Clinton supporter."

Not sure you consider these two issues to be related - I think they are independent. But if you consider the total contribution of these representatives, I think they offer a very positive influence on party politics - even if one is deeply involved with the Clinton campaign. That is her right.


Why is everyone Freaking out when the DNC is meeting at the end of May to decide how to seat the FL & MI delegates?.?.?

Good question. Hopefully all will be resolved and the seating will take place appropriately.

[MagickMuffin]

98. I'm not pleased with the TWO US representatives not helping out their other Democrats

I would think they would want to bring more people into the Democratic Party. It really matters to unseat republicons. You know, more voting power for issues that affect our country. I can't believe that their "friendship" with these republicons are MORE important than OUR party. It just doesn't make sense to me:shrug:




"Why are TWO OF YOUR US REPRESENTATIVES REFUSING TO CAMPAIGN TO UNSEAT TWO OF THEIR REPUBLICONS US REPRESENTATIVES?.?.?"

"Which by the way one IS stirring the pot and IS a Clinton supporter."


Not sure you consider these two issues to be related - I think they are independent. But if you consider the total contribution of these representatives, I think they offer a very positive influence on party politics - even if one is deeply involved with the Clinton campaign. That is her right.


I guess I see it as an issue if the votes stay home in November, because they are not voting for down ticket candidates.

How would they vote, if they decide to vote for McCain?.?.?

Will they still vote for the Democrats down ticket?.?.?

I don't have a problem with Debbie Wasserman Schultz support of Clinton. I have a problem with her supporting Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen the republicons.

[DrDan]

100. well - in the grand scheme of things, I have a bigger problem

with the D's that continue to fund the death and destruction coming from this war. And the growing debt that our children will be burdened with.

I cannot defend her support of these right-wingers. But given her total contribution, I still think she is a good representative.


on edit

I for got to add - what about Schumer and Feinstein's support of Mukasey? There will always be something that pisses us of with regard to the D's choices. I really believe part of the attack DWS has received here on DU is because she supports Clinton. I think if she was an Obama supporter, she would come closer to getting a pass on this. I say this NOT as a Clinton supporter - just recognizing the current rancor that is so prevalant today here on DU.

[MagickMuffin]

101. Oh man don't get me started with DiFi and Mukasey

I wrote her a long and detailed email detailing why she should NOT vote for Mukasey. Crickets. A month or two later she responds.

She isn't my senator, but I have a friend in Cali that let me use her address, so I could write to DiFi.

And Chuckie Boy offered Mukasey name for nomination. Can't figure that one out, except they're ALL NY Good Ol' Boys.

Looks as though my concerns about Mukasey were not without merit.



You're probably correct in your assessment concerning DWS. Although some DUers would still be upset with her (if she said she endorsed Obama) for the MESS FL has put this election in.

Rules are RULES, and we should abide by them or what's the point?.?.?

[KSinTX]

105. Hilarious sig line

[Lerkfish]

7. I'm continually appalled at this intentional mischaracterization of facts

appalled, but not surprised.

[jgraz]

11. Right there with ya. If you want respect from other Democrats, show us a little first

And quit insulting our intelligence with this BULLSHIT.

Instead of posting lies about delegate counts and disenfranchisement, just hit your caps lock and type the following:

DEMOCRATS: YOU ARE A BUNCH OF ILLITERATE DUMBFUCKS!

It's a lot more direct and would really cut down on people misinterpreting your posts as a good-faith effort at discussion.

[Skip Intro]

13. Deep breath, jgraz. What lie? They voted, and we are telling them their votes are worthless.

Where is the lie?

[jgraz]

19. You just repeated it. Not necessarily a lie, but certainly hard-core spin

Let's say you count FL and MI, and they affect the outcome of the nomination. What does that say to all the people in FL and MI who DIDN'T vote because they were told it wouldn't count? What does that say to all the MI Obama supporters who didn't even have a named candidate to cast their ballots for?

And what does it say to the rest of the states, who followed the rules and elected Barack Obama to be our nominee?

Now tell me honestly... which scenario would piss off more Democrats? Which is more respectful of people's votes? Which is more fair?

[DrDan]

23. 1.7 million voted in Florida - 2 1/2 times the number than 2004

pretty good sample, if you ask me

[jgraz]

26. More spin. Can you tell me what else was on that Florida ballot?

There was also a constitutional amendment on property taxes that drove turnout. But you already knew that, didn't you.


It doesn't matter how LARGE the sample is. If it's a biased sample, it's worthless. Hillary lost ground in every state where she and Obama actually campaigned. No wonder she desperately wants to count the results in the two states where no campaigning was allowed.

[DrDan]

30. I am not a Hillary supporter - just someone who believes all votes should count

contrary to a lot on this site

[jgraz]

40. But counting illegitimate results DIMINISHES other people's votes

Not to mention disenfranchising the people who sat home because they were told the election wouldn't count.

[DrDan]

51. who's votes are dimiinshed?

Florida voters? If they did not get up and vote, then they disenfranchised themselves. There was another key issue on the ballot. All the candidates were listed. They had no reason not to vote. I do not feel sorry for them in the least.

Voters from other states? Why should they care who Florida votes for. I know - they followed the rules of the DNC. But to take away the vote of any party member is the WORSE thing the party can do, if that party member has no control over the issue - imo.

[jgraz]

61. My vote, for one. Along with everyone else who voted in legitimate contests

Seating these delegates and giving the Clintons another bullshit issue to push to the convention floor damages every other Democrat who followed the rules -- the states, the voters and the other candidates. If we're going to just change the rules to make people feel better, I have a few pro-Edwards changes I'd like to see instituted.

[rodeodance]

71. the votes were certified. know what you are talking about before you spout off.

[Gore1FL]

77. And divided proportioanlly

Hillary gets well over half of the 0 allotted delegates.

[jgraz]

79. I know you have never once posted a single thing of value on this site

How's that for knowing what I'm talking about?

[DrDan]

36. "It doesn't matter how LARGE the sample is. If it's a biased sample"

Well you know of course that is not true.

As the size of the sample approaches the size of the population, bias tends to disappear.

[jgraz]

38. dup ... George Bush is a Nazi

Hey, why waste the space?

[jgraz]

39. But that's not the case here.

There was never a true campaign in Florida, so the informed choice of the Florida electorate is not reflected in those results. Evidence suggests that Obama would have fared far better if both candidates had been allowed to campaign.

[DrDan]

47. is the final selectin going to change?

The DNC screwed up by punishing the voters - they instead should have focused any punishment on the state leaders. Hold up party funding. Do not allow their participation at the nat'l level.

But for heaven sakes - do not punish the voters. The voters simply show up when the primary is scheduled and vote. The voters do not want to get involved with the politics of primary schedules and the like. They just want to vote. Even the charter of the party clearly states that all party members get an equal voice in candidate selection. Why do something that (1) clearly violates the party charter and (2) upsets party voters.

This is a rare chance to make real in-roads - WH, Senate, HR, and state elections. So the "flog" the voters of a large state makes no sense to me.

[jgraz]

84. Not at this point. However...

seating MI and FL will allow the Clintons to continue to play their bullshit shell game. Personally, I think Obama is going to let them paint themselves into a corner, and then offer to seat the delegates without precondition -- just as soon as he locks up every possible real and fantasy metric that the Clintons are contesting.

[beandoc]

46. 11.4 million people voted for Saddam in 2002

Lots o' votes. Wouldn't count 'em.

Numbers don't equal legitimacy

[DrDan]

53. you leave me speechless

[beandoc]

63. I'm not convinced that's a bad thing

But some of your earlier posts are quite reasonable, and I'll concede that the Iraq vote is an extreme example. However, the point remains that numbers don't equal legitimacy. A vote is only a legitimate vote if it's in a legitimate election.
An election where the candidates do not openly campaign and the electorate is told the election won't count does not pass the sniff test.

[DrDan]

92. well - with the cable news as it is, I doubt if there are any voters

unaware of the particular stands for any candidate.

And in a country as free as ours, as sample sizes grow, bias diminishes. I shall stand by that. To draw a parallel between our elections and Iraq's, Cuba's, or North Koreas certainly does not pass any "sniff test".

I live in Florida. And I contend that most of the voters here knew the date of the primary. From the numbers, I think most voted that would vote. So I think the numbers are representative. There was another important issue to be voted on. So I think they showed up appropriately.

Again - I say this as a Hillary non-supporter. My interest is not in getting Hillary more delegates - just getting the voters from Florida a voice.

[hfojvt]

80. you mean an 'election' without a campaign favors the Kremlin?

You Americans with your silly rules. The people voted, the Supreme Soviet won. How is that not a Democracy? Read the latest issue of Hillary's Pravda and it will be explained in detail.

[beachmom]

68. Voted for what? I have a friend in Michigan who supported Obama.

Exactly what vote did she get? She never got her vote.

[SeaLyons]

25. you took the words out of my mouth....

[jgraz]

28. If only that were truly possible...

[SeaLyons]

62. oh, isn't it a bitch that HRC supporters continue to express

themselves.....

[jgraz]

85. Actually, it sucks quite a bit

It would be a bit more tolerable if you didn't insult our intelligence with every post. You do realize that none of us are buying Billary's bullshit spin, don't you?

[Phillycat]

41. BRAVO!!

:applause:

[Lucinda]

56. Amazing isn't it?

[mkultra]

57. Dear DNC, please let those who toy with the system get burned

We'll all toast their demise.

[beachmom]

69. So you think that the other states don't matter? That winning fair and square

is not right? Because Obama won fair and square. He built everything from scratch, whereas Hillary had everything already created from her husband's presidential years to all the Clintonistas in DC. And Michigan is completely unfair to Obama voters.

[Jack Bone]

4. great idea!

done!

Wow!! Then it takes you to a donation page...gee, I wonder if my submission will make the list if I don't donate?:think:

[nonobadfish]

15. I wondered the exact same thing!

[sandnsea]

8. Good idea

Nobody will ever take us seriously on election fraud if we seat delegates when one of the candidates wasn't even on the ballot.

[bowens43]

10. Thanks. Done.

[madrchsod]

17. i just asked them to please follow the rules...

it`s just so easy when they make that way

[Clear Blue Sky]

18. She's grasping at straws...

[jenmito]

22. Thanks. I threw her own words back at her:

"Well, you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything."

[bobbert]

24. I have a feeling the email that will be sent will have a common template

saying that the person that sent this believes MI & FL should be counted and the personal message is just a small part of it. They probably just want to count the # of emails sent with that simple template to argue their case. Maybe it's not a good idea...

[beandoc]

35. I think you're right

I was about to send an e-mail, but agree that it's unlikely that someone is going to read it. Instead it's more likely to add to a tally of e-mails that are labelled as voters who want Michigan and Florida to be seated despite the rules.

[my3boyz]

32. I sent a message. I'm sure it is not the message that Hillary wanted me to send. LOL nt

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[jgraz]

34. Here's mine:

Dear DNC,

I'm writing from Hillary Clinton's website to urge you to STICK TO THE RULES that Senator Clinton agreed to and NOT COUNT the Florida and Michigan delegates.

The Clintons have tried every possible con game in order to deny the reality that they have been rejected by the voters. This nominating process is OVER, and any further shenanigans only help the Republicans.

Please urge Senator Clinton to accept the will of the voters and get behind our nominee.

Thank you,
jgraz

[HCE SuiGeneris]

65. And after hitting send from her site:

Dear DNC,

I'm writing from Hillary Clinton's website to urge you to SCREW THE RULES that Senator Clinton agreed to and COUNT the Florida and Michigan delegates.

The Clintons have tried every possible avenue to rectify the reality that they have been rejected by the voters. This nominating process is STILL MOVING FORWARD, and any further disenfranchisement only helps the Republicans.

Please urge Senator Obama to accept the will of Hillary Rodham Clinton and get behind her agenda.

Thank you,
Goddess of Peace supporter

[jgraz]

87. lol -- nice.

Sadly, you still sounded far too reasonable to be mistaken for an actual Hillary supporter. You spelled every word correctly and you never once called Obama a radical Amurka-hating muslim manchurian candidate with a crazy Christian minister.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

90. Being that ingrant is hard, its hard werk, donchano?

[AZBlue]

102. Goddess Of Peace? You mean G.O.P.?

;)

[Hepburn]

42. Done!

Thanks for the link. :hi:

[indimuse]

54. Who Let The Righty's HERE?

Who Let The Righty's HERE? Who Who Who Who * Who Let The Righty's HERE? Who Who Who Who


Quit Trying To Disenfranchise Over 2 Million Voters!

[Lucinda]

55. Why would anyone be stupid enough to tell the MI and FL voters they don't count?

You guys amaze me...

[AZBlue]

59. Excellent idea!

[AZBlue]

60. How do we know our comment doesn't go to the campaign for review first?

I just left my comment, but I don't trust them to forward it. So, I'm contacting the DNC directly - here's that link:

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contactissues

[HCE SuiGeneris]

66. See my post #65 for information on the HRC e-mail spin generator v2.04.08.1

:evilgrin:

[beachmom]

67. Good idea. I sent them a note.

I ended it with "Good luck, because you're going to need it". This is a clusterf*** indeed.

[PatGund]

73. Here's what I wrote:

"Florida and Michigan knew the rules and decided to break them. The DNC needs to do the right thing and REFUSE to seat them or acknowledge their primaries.

If you allow their votes to count, you're telling the entire US that the rules do not count.

If you feel like you should seat them, seat only 50%, using a 50-50 split. It's still rewarding rulebreakers, but at least it may quiet those who feel the rules don't apply to them."

[grantcart]

76. Brilliant - just clipped from the journal

The crocodile tears that are now being shed about Florida and Michigan are the latest and most disingenuous of the Clinton campaign. The fact is that the idea of drawing a line in the sand so that you would end up with a de facto national primary was from page one of the Clinton playbook.

Having twenty or thirty states vote on the same day, the theory went, would favor the candidate with the most money, the most experience and the most organizational support with connections with many local governors and mayors already on board.

This strategy would only work if, repeat if, there was a draconian line in the sand. If the line was too weak - like 50% representation then states would be tempted to be in the head of the line and settle for half of the delegates. Even with the draconian line two states called the bluff (and as Madfloridian has proved they did it laughing at the DNC).

This is what their representatives wanted and Harold Ickes was on the committee and voted for it. Clinton's strongest base of support is not with the elected super delegates but the DNC delegates that control the party machinery where she locked up 140 early endorsements.

By November everything looked great for the Clintons. They got the ironclad rule with the draconian penalty that they needed. Twenty Four primaries and caucuses took the bait and jumped to the front of the line for Super Super Tuesday on Feb 5th. The other element that they hoped for was a big field of candidates. As long as there was a big field then the Clinton had a solid 40% the other candidates would split the rest and the Clintons would win big.

And then the plan began to unravel. The field ended up being only three candidates. In the first contest, Iowa Clinton finished third place. By the time Super Super Tuesday came that 40%+ ended up being not just a floor but also a ceiling. The Clinton campaign had banked everything on February 5th. They had no real plan for the caucus states and low on money. The junior senator from Illinois won in delegates and popular votes and then launched 12 straight victories.


Now as the last 15% of the primary season is upon us and being irretrievably behind the Clinton camp will bang the drum of injustice for the exclusion of Michigan and Florida. The big lie is that they are now painting themselves as having been absolutely against the injustice. The truth was having a draconian penalty was key to making sure that a huge number of states would line up one a single date. It looked like a good idea up to Feb 4th.

Now as the dust settles over the non snipers and the shameless self promotion we are treated to a really skilled prevaricator. As the falsehood of the Clinton position is heaped on an unsuspecting public day after day, as the Clintons beat the drum of Florida and Michigan you only can admire such professional deception - too bad we don't have a youtube of the DNC meetings.

[union_maid]

78. I'd suggest sending from the DNC's site

If you want to push back against this effort, it seems like a more direct choice to send a message from the DNC's website.

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contactissues

I did.

[nonobadfish]

81. Great idea. I'll do that too.

[suston96]

82. Tell it like it is: Obama doesn't need the 2.3 million Democratic votes from FL and MI in Nov. nt

[IsItJustMe]

91. He will get them, regardless of your wishes.

[TexanDem]

104. I just sent my note saying to go by the orig. rules Probably will get deleted, but I tried.

shoot.... I forgot to copy/paste it before I sent it. :(