Let's list examples of sexism against Hillary

[George_Bonanza]

Apparently, to some people, Hillary did not lose the election because she had a legitimate dumbass running her campaign for a long time, or because she had the wrong message for the people, or because she was an uninspiring speaker, or simply because she ran against one of the most remarkable political figures in recent memory. No, she lost because the media, in conjunction with the DNC itself, blitzed the American people with a hardcore sexist campaign. Hillary was such an ideal and perfect candidate that the only thing that could've sunk her was sexual prejudice on behalf of the media, the DNC, and the voters.

But what exactly were these sexist attacks, and when did they happen? I honestly do not know. So I want to enlist your help in compiling a master list of sexist attacks against Hillary.

[grantcart]

1. do you mean attacks initiated by Obama or somebody else?

[George_Bonanza]

3. Anybody and everybody

[islandmkl]

2. well, first of all....

..............uhh, i'll get back to you on that....

[DJ13]

4. It was her "turn", so voting for anyone else was sexist

Thats all I got.

[PBS Poll-435]

5. People Accused her Campaign of Leaking Obama Photograph

Like some gossip queen.

[Barack_America]

8. Where's the sexism in that? Using the word "leaking"?

I honestly don't see it.

[PBS Poll-435]

12. I said...

Like she was a beauty shop gossip.

[NewHampshireDem]

18. Nice try ... I call you on editing your post after Kristi1969's response. n/t

[PBS Poll-435]

25. Ask a Mod.

[NewHampshireDem]

27. Ask a Mod? I SAW IT HAPPEN!

Oh, nevermind ... you're right. Why would I believe my lying eyes over you?

Edited on Fri May-16-08 03:03 PM by prodn2000

[PBS Poll-435]

29. I edited it before Kristi responded

[dailykoff]

20. Except nobody said that until you just did.

Doh!

[CakeGrrl]

31. You can't project your own thought about people's motivations as fact

Circulating a photograph to smear your opponent is just that - a smear.

You're projecting that action as characteristic of "a beauty shop gossip". No one attributed her motive to doing that but you.

I simply take it as a dirty smear tactic that any candidate's campaign, male or female, would do to weaken their opponent.

You can't equate your personal supposition that 'people are probably saying that because she's a woman' as an actual example of sexism.

[PBS Poll-435]

35. SHE DIDN'T CIRCULATE THE PHOTO

:think:

[Catherina]

37. Tracy Sefl is the Clinton Campaign's "beauty shop gossip" (cute) to Drudge

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5306540&mesg_id=5306746

[PBS Poll-435]

41. So can you prove the Clinton Campaign leaked to photo?

Or not.

[NewHampshireDem]

16. Uh, yeah ...

They accused her "cooking up" the plot, "ironing" out the details, "giving birth" to a controversial story that had "legs". F-ing pigs! :eyes:

[Terran]

26. What photo are you referring to? n/t

[PBS Poll-435]

30. A photo that appeared in a small circ tabloid like 2 weeks before it hit Sludge

[gal]

39. Was gossip queen used? I dont remember seeing that.

That's a stretch, you don't say any thing when a male candidate is accused of leaking something why be sensitive because your a woman?
Your suppose to be able to handle a man's job so take the same heat they do and quit friggen whining about it.

[Lucky 13]

53. FAIL

Accusing her of leaking a photo is not sexist. It has been done before by men and women alike and is not attributable more or less to either gender.

[MADem]

6. Why bother? Look at your post. It already sets up the construct that no matter

what people say, you're all ready to "dumbass" refute it.

In a candidacy, like in life, things are cumulative.

You'll see that one day, if you don't, now.

Google might help you, if you really want to learn, rather than simply play the "Post/Swat" game that amuses the easily amused.

[dailykoff]

7. "hard working white Americans"?

Am I close?

[slinkerwink]

9. okay, it would be Matthews on MSNBC as a classic example.

His trashing of HRC was over the top.

[Barack_America]

15. I can understand that. But I honestly didn't see anyone else follow his lead...

Or anyone take him seriously, for that matter.

He was pretty uniformly criticized for that.

I was actually going to point out that Schuster should never have said "pimped" regarding Chelsea. But, after that, it seemed to me everyone was actually walking on egg shells.

I did also once hear Scarborough mutter "hotflashes" under his breath, but it was only aubible upon rewinding it, so I can't see how this would have affected the media at large.

That's my honest assessment.

[NewHampshireDem]

10. I saw someone say she was crying right before the NH primary n/t

[totodeinhere]

11. Isn't it time to move on?

[NewHampshireDem]

21. "move on"? Oh, so you're one of *those*, ugh, 'activitsts'

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/hillary-clin-10.html

:eyes:

[TahitiNut]

13. "It takes me longer to get ready."

Oh, wait. She said that, not the media and not her opponents. Sorry. :shrug:

[dailykoff]

14. "I embody change."

Oh wait, Hillary again.

[bobbert]

17. When March's satements came out and Hillary was $10 million in debt

I made the comment to my girlfriend that I wouldn't want her running the US budget. She said it sounded sexist the way I said it, even though she's also an Obama fan. I guess you just have to watch how you phrase things around women when you talk about one or they will think you are acting sexist.

[highplainsdem]

19. Link to the "Sexism in the MSM" topic that janesez posted two days ago:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5972376

[dailykoff]

22. "SHE would make a good president."

See, he said "she"! :flaming outrage:

[City Lights]

23. "Apparently, it's okay to say bad things about a girl."

So said William Jefferson Clinton, March 26, 2008.

[grasswire]

24. from Marie Coco's latest column

will not miss seeing advertisements for T-shirts that bear the slogan "Bros before Hos." The shirts depict Barack Obama (the Bro) and Hillary Clinton (the Ho) and are widely sold on the Internet.

I will not miss walking past airport concessions selling the Hillary Nutcracker, a device in which a pantsuit-clad Clinton doll opens her legs to reveal stainless-steel thighs that, well, bust nuts. I won't miss television and newspaper stories that make light of the novelty item.

I won't miss episodes like the one in which liberal radio personality Randi Rhodes called Clinton a "big whore" and said the same about former vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Rhodes was appearing at an event sponsored by a San Francisco radio station, before an audience of appreciative Obama supporters -- one of whom had promoted the evening on the presumptive Democratic nominee's official campaign Web site.

I won't miss Citizens United Not Timid (no acronym, please), an anti-Clinton group founded by Republican guru Roger Stone.

Political discourse will at last be free of jokes like this one, told last week by magician Penn Jillette on MSNBC: "Obama did great in February, and that's because that was Black History Month. And now Hillary's doing much better 'cause it's White Bitch Month, right?" Co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski rebuked Jillette.

I won't miss political commentators (including National Public Radio political editor Ken Rudin and Andrew Sullivan, the columnist and blogger) who compare Clinton to the Glenn Close character in the movie "Fatal Attraction." In the iconic 1987 film, Close played an independent New York woman who has an affair with a married man played by Michael Douglas. When the liaison ends, the jilted woman becomes a deranged, knife-wielding stalker who terrorizes the man's blissful suburban family. Message: Psychopathic home-wrecker, begone.

The airwaves will at last be free of comments that liken Clinton to a "she-devil" (Chris Matthews on MSNBC, who helpfully supplied an on-screen mock-up of Clinton sprouting horns). Or those who offer that she's "looking like everyone's first wife standing outside a probate court" (Mike Barnicle, also on MSNBC).

But perhaps it is not wives who are so very problematic. Maybe it's mothers. Because, after all, Clinton is more like "a scolding mother, talking down to a child" (Jack Cafferty on CNN).

When all other images fail, there is one other I will not miss. That is, the down-to-the-basics, simplest one: "White women are a problem, that's -- you know, we all live with that" (William Kristol of Fox News).

I won't miss reading another treatise by a man or woman, of the left or right, who says that sexism has had not even a teeny-weeny bit of influence on the course of the Democratic campaign. To hint that sexism might possibly have had a minimal role is to play that risible "gender card."

Most of all, I will not miss the silence.

I will not miss the deafening, depressing silence of Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean or other leading Democrats, who to my knowledge (with the exception of Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland) haven't publicly uttered a word of outrage at the unrelenting, sex-based hate that has been hurled at a former first lady and two-term senator from New York. Among those holding their tongues are hundreds of Democrats for whom Clinton has campaigned and raised millions of dollars. Don Imus endured more public ire from the political class when he insulted the Rutgers University women's basketball team.

Would the silence prevail if Obama's likeness were put on a tap-dancing doll that was sold at airports? Would the media figures who dole out precious face time to these politicians be such pals if they'd compared Obama with a character in a blaxploitation film? And how would crude references to Obama's sex organs play?

There are many reasons Clinton is losing the nomination contest, some having to do with her strategic mistakes, others with the groundswell for "change." But for all Clinton's political blemishes, the darker stain that has been exposed is the hatred of women that is accepted as a part of our culture.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/14/AR2008051403090.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

[BlooInBloo]

42. A couple of those I agree with, the rest I'm ambivalent about, at best.

[Phillycat]

47. I'm shocked that you don't see sexism in those examples.

Shocked, I tell you. :eyes:

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. Here you go...tons of addresses naming the sexism that helped

to defeat Clinton. (just a few listed, but if you are truly interested, you only need to google sexism and Clinton and you will find it.)

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080512_a_farewell_to_the_hillary_nutcracker_and_other_obscenities/

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27653


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/opinion/09faludi.html

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200804300001?f=h_column

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/361082_hillary30.html

http://edstrong.blog-city.com/gloria_steinem_on_hillary_clinton__sexism.htm

http://tomwatson.typepad.com/tom_watson/2008/01/the-sexist-medi.html

http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=24&t=001353

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elaine-hopkins/unmasking-sexism-in-media_b_90916.html

[SIMPLYB1980]

36. Great post.

[Phillycat]

32. Okay.

Educate thyself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

Will you reply to this? I doubt it.

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34. There are people who voted against Sen. Clinton because she was a woman, no doubt

but there are people who for her just because she is a woman as well.

She had everything going for her... a good name, a good record, a good lead in the polls, and she blew it with a bad strategy and a lot of mistakes in her campaign.

[MonkeyFunk]

38. Well

here on this board, she was called a bitch, a harpy, and a cunt.

She was frequently depicted as a witch. Her "cackle" was attacked, her hair, her makeup, her clothing.

More generally, she was constantly attacked for showing the qualities that male politicians are never attacked for.

[theHandpuppet]

43. Not to mention "her thighness", "her shrillness", etc

There are so many examples we could spend days listing them all.

[Phillycat]

44. The chances of the OP replying to any post where sexism is actually pointed out

is very, very slim. Don't you know this thread was the opposite of a request for honest debate?

[highplainsdem]

48. Yes, I know. Keep trying to reason with them anyway.

No matter how dense the OP might be, people reading the replies might actually learn something.

Which is why I posted the link to your great topic about sexism in the MSM.

[Phillycat]

50. Aw, thanks.

It's true, there are hundreds and hundreds of people reading these threads who never post, and all we can do is keep pointing out the truth.

[highplainsdem]

45. Don't forget

"Hilldabeast" -- a wingnut name for her that I never thought we'd see here.

[Phillycat]

49. Also..."Hitlery"!

No longer the exclusive purview of Free Republic!

[Life Long Dem]

40. Was it

when they put her high up on a pedestal? I don't really think so, because they also put Obama high up on this pedestal and then made rock stars out of both of them onto this historical ride, that we don't hear too often lately. Not to take anything away from the fact of this being history, but that was all the talk when other candidates were in this race as well

So if anyone was treated unfairly it was the third fourth, fifth and sixth candidates. But the media was too busy with shoving Hillary and Obama down our throats.

Take John Edwards... they totally ignored Edwards and on his final days they hounded him right before CNN's two person round table debate, asking him when he was dropping out. This so CNN can have their little two person one on one debate.

Go cry your hearts out, but remember this, your candidate has not been mistreated as much as the other candidates have been. Clinton to this day is getting a free ride. Edwards supporters had no choice in Edwards dropping out. The media took care of that for us. Now the media tells us, it is up to Clinton's supporters to tell Hillary to drop out. Gee wiz... the media is soo bad to Clinton.

[Bucky]

46. Denied the nomination that was her due by men. Evil petty men who fear her womanpower.

Also by voters. Damn them.

[MonkeyFunk]

52. Anyone who's sincerely interested

in the question asked in the OP should read this thread. Many, many examples are cited. People who want to continue wearing blinders will ignore them, as expected.

[Upton]

51. Bringing up Snipergate was clearly an example of the MSM fearing a strong woman

I mean, she's Hillary she should be able to lie with impunity, otherwise it's obviously a case of sexism.

[The Traveler]

54. It has been there ... right alongside the racism

Yech. Ugly stuff. Chris Matthews leaps to mind as the most blatant example of the sexism barfed up by the MSM's talking heads ... most of it was more subtle than that.

And then there were (and this flat out disgusted me ... to the point it damaged Obama's standing in my eyes) the notorious "Bros before Hos" T-Shirts. The Hillary nutcrackers and all the press attention those little gizmos received. Etc.

But it didn't take too long see that neither candidate was either sexist or racist. Nor was either candidate actively attempting to exploit the racist or sexist biases of the voting public. Then Bill Clinton opened his mouth and embarassed us all.

All this crap made it difficult to choose after Edwards dropped out. I took about a month to listen to them both and mull it over ... I eventually joined the Obama camp, although it is likely I will never join in and sip koolaide at the camp fire sing alongs ... just kidding ... :)

And as Hillary's prospects weakened, the race thing kept coming up in subtle ... and not so subtle ... ways. I still don't think the Clintons are themselves racist but am now convinced they are quite willing to exploit racism as a means of achieving their objectives. I ain't jiggy with that. In the meantime, Obama has shown us what grace under pressure looks like.