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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:16 PM
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Anyone know anything about Larry Johnson?
Is he a credible source for anything???
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:18 PM
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1. He's a hell of a running back
That's all I know.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:18 PM
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2. Grand Ma Ma? n/t
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:23 PM
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10. you had to go there....
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:53 PM
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40. The 4-point play...a killer
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:18 PM
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3. Relevant to the CIA and matters related to Valerie Plame, Joe Wilson and WMD...
...he's a very credible source.
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:19 PM
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4. Is he pro Hillary or Barak?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:23 PM
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9. Go to his site called No Quarter. There will be no doubt.
.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:20 PM
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5. you mean "Mr. No Quarter"? He's a shill and a hack. not too mention a racist asshole
he's been feeding all kinds of lies and other nastiness for the Hillary machine on his blog. They'll give any asshole a blog- even I had one for a while
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:22 PM
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8. Well I'm a Hillary supporter, so you know...
but he has a story up that I don't even want to repeat. I want a dem to win in November. Period.

I also don't want Republican disinformation to stir up our party. We may not like each others candidate much, but we are democrats and we need to win on all levels this fall.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:27 PM
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12. I think he's a divider more than a uniter, but he's credile on CIA issues
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:41 PM
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22. Really? I never would have thunk.
:rofl:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:20 PM
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6. Heh heh heh heh
:rofl:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:21 PM
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7. He used to be in the CIA, and so he has sources.
Edited on Fri May-16-08 06:22 PM by Eric J in MN
I liked him in the documentary "Outfoxed" which criticized Fox News.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:24 PM
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11. Has an interesting Wikipedia entry
If his latest posts on No Quarter are correct, big trouble coming for Barack Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_C._Johnson
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:29 PM
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13. Yeah right, FORMER CIA ?!? Let's believe that bunk?
:crazy:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:33 PM
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20. He most definitely was CIA
Guaranteed
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:37 PM
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21. There's no such thing as "Former CIA".
Poppy Bush is in his 80's, and you better believe that motherfucker gets daily briefings straight from Langley.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:29 PM
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15. yeah...
I heard from someone who heard from someone who has it on GREAT authority from a Republican higher up (ok...so it's someone who used to date the receptionist who works at Mitt Romney's sons' former orthodontist...but the person knows what he's talking about!) that....no such thing exists, which is why the GOP is shitting in their pants this week and trying desperately to grasp at inuendo that will never come to fruition. I'm not worried.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:31 PM
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18. yep!
..
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:33 PM
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19. Somehow I doubt the Obama team is wandering around clueless
Much as you might hope there's big trouble coming.

:eyes:
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:50 PM
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24. Wow, that's a little disappointing. I've really liked Larry Johnson so far.
It appears he's on Hillary's side, hope he'll work to reunite the party the way I'm sure she will.
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:50 PM
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25. I intentionally did not post the link...
While I still have my hopes for Hillary, I don't think we should allow ourselves to fall victim to the manipulations of the Republicans. If such a video exists it will come to light. If it does not exist, then it is just the Republicans pulling our chain and then watching us flop around. They are the ones who need to be flopping after the disasters of the past 8 years!
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:29 PM
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14. CIA = Terrorists, drug dealers, thugs, and Bush Crime Family lackeys.
I wouldn't consider him trustworthy in the least.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:29 PM
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16. Giant asshole, IMO.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:31 PM
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17. Yes, they tried to float that story over here last night and the thread was locked. n/t
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:45 PM
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23. I didn't see the thread...
and would not put it past the Republicans to concoct such a story just to mess with us, then have nothing. Thanks for your info.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:52 PM
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26. I have two questions about this story:
1. If it's true that this is the Republican October suprise, why would they leak the information to Larry Johnson who they know has a blog and would post the information on the internet?

2. Why is it that only the Republicans have been able to find the tape and not the Clintons, Sean Hannity, or anyone else in the media?

I'm also curious what they mean when they say she "rails against whitey?" I find it somewhat doubtful that she would say anything all that crazy or offensive. She might say something about black people having it harder than some white people, or talk about discrimination, but I doubt that she says anything all that offensive.

And, even if the video exist I don't think it would be that hard to quiet the whatever controversy it starts. Michelle would probably just give a speech of her own (which would be really bizzare), or she would apologize a lot and explain herself. America probably isn't going to tear apart a presidential candidate's wife. It would just seem a little out of line to attack her. I think people would feel sorry for her if it went too far.

But, hopeefully this guy's just trying to stir up trouble. I mean, why is it that this is the only blog on the entire internet carrying this story? Why is Larry Johnson the only source for this information? Seems strange a story like this would only be found on a single blog.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:54 PM
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27. DUDE, HE'S 'FORMER' CIA, HE HAS CONNECTIONS.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yeah. No ulterior motives whatsoever!
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:05 PM
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28. Answer 1 and 2
1 Why leak? To cause us more trouble, confusion, division. Use our strength, diversity, against us.
2 Only Republicans have it? I doubt they do, but saying so now causes further chaos and division and hard feelings. And, if it never turns up the damage is done. If it does turn up in October, the damage is done with little or no time to address it.

I think it is a bogey man, but if it is true it will be the poison pill.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:19 PM
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31. What?
I was asking why the republicans would tell anybody about the video if it's to be their October suprise. Kinda defeats the purpose of the suprise, and it would likely lead to the video being leaked before they have the chance to use it. The rumour of a video like this won't cause much division. Either it exists and it turns up, or doesn't and it won't. I don't see how the possibility of it being out there would do any real harm. There's already a million false rumours about Obama as it is.

The only thing I can think of is if a rumour like this spread it could possibly freeze superdelegates until they know if it's true or not. That's the only reason I can think of as to why Larry Johnson would make this up, since he's a Hillary supporter.

My guess is it's a lie, but even if it isn't I doubt the video would be as damaging as they're making it out to be. I doubt she would say anything too terrifying, that couldn't be put to rest with a sincere apology and a request for forgiveness. I don't think a candidate's spouse could knock him/her out of a campaign.

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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:32 PM
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34. It does not have to be true for it to hurt us...
It can be totally debunked yet harden attitudes against Obama, ie the Muslim charge, etc. If a small number of dem voters believes this lie, another small group believes that lie, etc., just like against the Clintons in the 90's only the target is now Obama, then in Oct the broad charge is that Obama is just an ambitious politician like any other democrat. We can't entrust our country to someone like that, we need a true patriot like John McCain. Someone who loves his country. (Read that...as opposed to someone like Obama/Michelle who really hates our country.) Instead of a bombshell it is a wearing away, piece by piece, of the integrity and luster of a politician until...well you know, the characterizations of Al Gore in 2000, until people believe the characterization and not the real thing.

I happen to think this has happened to Hillary. Bitch, cunt, testicle lock box, etc. This is a rough business in the best of circumstances and winning is the objective. It may be about more noble ideals for some, but even these people have to be able to play the game successfully.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:41 PM
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37. Maybe its the "spectacular event"
they're all hoping for. But they have to get it out before August. Maybe threatening it's existence is their way of pimping the 'electability' argument. I refuse to click on his "No Quarter" site..I've learned my lesson.
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:46 PM
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38. Who is hoping for?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:51 PM
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39. These people...

Clinton campaign on ropes

BY JOHN GUERRIERO
john.guerriero@timesnews.com

Published: May 08. 2008 6:00AM
Murray, who has supported Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1991, said these are tough times for people like him who are in the Clinton camp but want to unify the party.

"The sense is, absent some catastrophic event that would take place in this campaign, it's going to be very difficult to see a path to victory for Hillary given what happened" Tuesday, Murray said.

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS02/805080437


Sun May 11, 2008

Analysis: Could Clinton land the VP nomination?

Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination.
But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/bernstein.clinton/index.html?section=cnn_latest



CBSNews.com Reports: N.Y. Senator Now Faces Nearly Impossible Odds To Capturing Democratic Nomination

May 7, 2008

Clinton's Path To Victory Slipping Away
There is one scenario which does work for Clinton and that’s a massive movement of superdelegates leaving Obama and supporting her. The party leaders could do that, but it would take some unforeseen development in the race between now and the convention for them to do so. Obama, in some way, would have to be rendered so unelectable that the party rejects him at the convention. That’s not much to hang a hat on but it’s starting to look like her best option.

And even that might not be a viable option, said Joe Trippi. “Even if the catastrophic thing existed or happened, if she were perceived to have caused it, I think it would end her campaign too,” Trippi said. I don’t think there’s any way now for her to gain the nomination. She’s at the point now where if she tries to make a case against Obama, it will actually speed up superdelegates joining his cause just to shut the campaign down.”

But Trippi notes that the Obama campaign and Democratic leaders are still likely to give Clinton the room she needs to go forward on her own terms, provided that she does so in a positive manner. “I think there’s lots of tolerance for her going on, running the table into the convention and having a presence there,” he said. “But if she actually tries to compete in the trenches for the nomination in a way that looks like it’s damaging the nominee … I don’t think there will be any tolerance for that at all.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/07/politics/main4078586.shtml
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:26 PM
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32. Maybe Michelle is talking about the "Whitey House" since no one of color has EVER occupied it
:spank::rofl:

Sorry I couldn't resist. I had to venture over to LJ blog to see what he was up too and think he's just trying to stir the pot.


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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:10 PM
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29. he's gone a wee bit off the deep end in his hatred of obama and obsessive support of clinton.
its creepy.
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liberalcommontater Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:33 PM
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35. Nice pic. nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:37 PM
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36. thanks.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:14 PM
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30. Larry Johnson a registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000
Therein lies everything you need to know.

But if you feel inclined to know more, might I suggest this

http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=15120172&searchSource=basic_ssb&singleSearchBox=larry+johnson&personName=larry+johnson

From zoominfo:

Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder3
BERG Associates LLC
Washington
USA

Managing Partner and Founder4
BERG Associates LLC

Managing Director5
BERG Associates LLC

Vice President
Jarch

Officer
CIA

Analyst4
CIA

Agent
CIA

Deputy Director4
the State Department

Director of Counter Terrorism
the State Department

Counterterrorism Chief
the State Department

Deputy Director In the U.S. State Department's Office3
Counter Terrorism

State Department Coordinator
Counter Terrorism

U.S. State Department Deputy Director , Counter Terrorism Analyst , Media and Business3
Counter Terrorism

Teacher3
The American University's School of International Service

Board Membership and Affiliations


Member3
American Society for Industrial Security

Member
Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity


:puke:



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