Hillary encourages a blogger to drag her two young kids to 5/31 DNC rules meeting!

[DesEtoiles]

This is just beyond the pale. Disgusting.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/audio.php?audio=http://www.taylormarsh.com/podcast/mp3/stream.2008-05-16.134204.mp3

[Liquorice]

1. I just listened to the conference call a little while

ago, and I just don't see what the big deal is. She didn't encourage anyone to "drag" their children anywhere. The woman said she was taking her kids with her because she wanted her family represented and counted as they are from Michigan. It's interesting for children to see democracy in action. People take their kids to anti-war protests all the time. What IS the big deal here?

If Obama had a conference call for bloggers who supported him, I'm sure you would be quite happy. Maybe that's the problem here. Do you wish Obama would have a conference call and talk to you?

[gateley]

3. I didn't listen to the entire conference call,

but if your portrayal is accurate, I would agree with you.

And I just posted on another thread that if my candidate asked me to take to the blogs, I'd do it. Not a hit an run to blanket all the blogs, but I'd present the argument on the blogs I frequented.

[DesEtoiles]

6. AND you would of course DISCLOSE that you were COORDINATING WITH THE CAMPAIGN

[rodeodance]

10. Don't Obama's bloggers coordinate with his camp?

[gateley]

20. I can only speak for myself, and the answer for me is no.

I don't even know if he has conference calls like this.

[rodeodance]

32. Thanks for an honest reply. much appreciated.

[K Gardner]

25. Obama doesn't have "bloggers". He has supporters who post. Not instructed.

[rodeodance]

30. She condensed what what already out there in public-in fact from her speeches the

last fews days and what is on her website. This was an opporturity for her to thank them and take some questions.

[gateley]

21. I honestly don't know if I would or not. nt

[rodeodance]

29. You make it sound so evil. It was a wonderful talk between Hillary and

her bloggers.

[Liquorice]

7. Yes, that's exactly what happened. The woman

blogger said she was bringing her children with her to the rules committee meeting because she wanted her family (from Michigan) to be counted.

My take on the call was that it was a way for Hillary's active online supporters to interact with her. It was actually quite interesting, and I'm glad someone posted the link so I was able to hear it. The bloggers who got to talk to her were very excited. She wasn't manipulating them in any way, as some here have said. These bloggers have already been supporting her online for a long time. And what Hillary said during the call has already been argued by her online supporters for weeks. It wasn't some kind of online call-to-arms or a directive to swarm political sites in support of her. It was great for her supporters (who have put so much online work into her campaign) to get to talk with her, even if it was only for a very short time.

[DesEtoiles]

15. it was sickening and manipulative.

[rodeodance]

28. the mother brought up the conversation. You look FOOLISH distorting what was said.

[leftofcool]

31. Oh for crying out loud

grow up!

[musicblind]

16. Thank you liquorice for some rationality that is not fueled by people's

hatered of Hillary. I really think some people on these boards are taking it all to personally. No one should HATE anyone on either side over this stuff. I'm sure if Obama had had the conference call they would think it was nice. It seems like a harmless idea to have the call, buck up the troops. Most of her supporters are pretty down right now having realized it is probably over, so it's nice to have her speak to people who have blogs (I've never been one for checking or reading blogs though).

[rodeodance]

36. Yes, it was a wonderful opportunity for them.

[DesEtoiles]

39. you MUST disclose you are working with the campaign or else it's all just a lie

[musicblind]

42. I am absolutely not working for the campaign

how dare you imply otherwise. I did not listen to her conference call, I have been very unbaised on these boards, praising and donating to multiple candidates. I have supported both Edwards and Hillary and also pointed out that I think Obama is an excellent candidate and will be supporting him in the GE. How dare you accuse anyone who happens to disagree with you of being an employee for Hillary's campaign. I have never spoken to Hillary or even been to hear her speak. I have seen Bill Clinton give a speech on one occasion. I have never even been inside her campaign headquarters. I'm the one who made a very LONG detailed thread PRAISING John Edwards after his endorsement of Obama. ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5975678 ) I have stayed far less biased than the majority on this board, because I enjoy aspects from both of the candidates. To claim that I am working for her campaign because I contend that there is no harm in her trying to boost the moral of her supporters via a conference call while she stays in this thing till June in hopes of getting a VP nod, or some other concession(hopefully a concession from Obama on health care. her best issue)
... to claim that is just preposterous.
I have never, in this entire primary season called an Obama supporter a single derogatory "name", I have never referred to people as cultist (and have stood in protest against those who have done so), and despite all of this you claim that I work for her CAMPAIGN because I disagree with you. That is hateful thinking, and such unfounded accusations are akin to Mccarthyism.

I have tried to treated everyone on this board with respect, as best I know how, and all I ask is that I be treated in the same way.


Edited: to add link

[DesEtoiles]

5. oh bullshit. She said the kids don't live in Michigan!

Some purported extended family is "from there" so she's dragging her kids the DNC rules meeting, even though she said in her posts at MYDD that she does not have enough money to attend the convention.

What EXACTLY are those kids supposed to do there? Break down and cry after their mother scares the shit out of them to make them do it?

[Liquorice]

9. I think you are a little too-wound up about this call. I thought it was nice. nt

[DesEtoiles]

12. lying and cheating by Hillary is ok by you. Yes, I see that.

[Liquorice]

14. LOL You are perhaps a little jealous of that call. Well maybe Obama will have one too some day. nt

[DesEtoiles]

18. Lying and cheating aok with you, huh?

[Liquorice]

22. Lying seems okay with you since you keep lying about that call. nt

[DesEtoiles]

26. too bad you obviously didn't listen to it. I can see why that would be painful for you.

up comes dinner.

[rodeodance]

35. he just told you he listened--and gave you his summary.

[rodeodance]

27. YOU are the LYING about 'dragging" kids

[DesEtoiles]

19. Hillary is being exposed tonight for all the media to see.

[rodeodance]

24. Nothing to expose. She laid out her argument today already-and partly

the other day. Nothing new. this was a condensed version of what she has said several times

[rodeodance]

17. Why would you so severely distort what that mother said?

[havocmom]

2. What movie was it where the presidential candidate, under sniper fire interestingly enough,

grabs a kid as a shield? Some Stephen King story, wasn't it?

Life is imitating art again?

skip it. she's done. Kaput. OVER.

[aaaaaa5a]

4. In the old gangster movie New Jack City....

The leader of the street gang (sorry I forget his name) grabs a young kid to shield him from a gunfight.

[TexasObserver]

8. The Dead Zone. Greg Stilman, played by Martin Sheen.

[DesEtoiles]

11. Martin Sheen playing Greg Stilson

[rodeodance]

13. *****STOP the distortion. The woman said she was taking her kids to the

the conference. The mother is NOT dragging her kids.

What is your problem??

[dailykoff]

23. Great, turn the thing into a circus.

Why not see if Osama's available that weekend? He owes his good buds a few favors.

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[closeupready]

34. I don't understand the outrage here.

Hillary was silent for about the first 3/4 of the woman's comment (she said she didn't have a question, but wanted to express her support for Hillary). After the woman told Hillary that this was what she planned to do, Hillary said that she thought getting kids involved in democracy and the political process was a good thing. I don't see anything particularly wrong with it, and in fact, some children love politics. Didn't Hillary in fact say in one of her bios that a big reason she wanted to be a Goldwater Girl was so she could wear the associated costume, which she thought was fun? As a disclaimer, I strongly support Obama's candidacy.

[DesEtoiles]

37. .

[rodeodance]

38. hi norma. you hiding?

[pop goes the weasel]

40. why is it beyond the pale?

I did the same sort of thing, "dragging" my daughter along to political meetings, protests, lectures, blah-de-blah-blah. Parents also "drag" their kids to church or art galleries or symphonies or grandma's. Part of raising children is to expose them to what you consider valuable, and to show them that you (and, thus, they) are members of a larger community in which we all have responsibilities.

I doubt very much that Obama would denigrate that woman's decision the way you have, or think poorly of Clinton for not engaging in mommy wars. I suspect that his view on childrearing is pretty much exactly the same as Clinton's. So why are you trying to stir up hate?

[musicblind]

44. Well said

[DesEtoiles]

41. .

[Texas Hill Country]

43. you are so full of it... that is not what was said at all.

[DesEtoiles]

45. .

[LizW]

46. Norma, you're being silly

The call is online for anyone to hear and they are going to know that you are distorting what was said.

Campaign for your candidate and chill.