The One Constant Sexist Comment Against Clinton That I Think Is Ridiculous

[aaaaaa5a]

Why is she always criticized for wearing a pantsuit?

A pantsuit is perfectly acceptable as business attire for work, campaigning etc. I mean c'mon, what's she suppose to wear?

Maybe the next time she can be the candidate with the different colored braws?

Do you hear anyone ripping male candidates because they wear a coat and tie?

I'm not a Clinton supporter, but this is one ongoing joke I don't understand. I wince everytime I hear a pantsuit joke. I don't like it.

There are PLENTY of other subjects to joke about concerning Clinton without criticizing common clothing fashion for women.

[dkf]

1. isn't she the one making the pantsuit jokes?

[jaxx]

2. Well I have heard people ripping Obama's ties.

Just sayin.

[slinkerwink]

3. well, it's because she wears the same pantsuits over and over, like the yellow one.

I think she would look great in other clothes.

[TheDonkey]

6. don't diss the Queen Bee suit

makes he look like a cartoon villain.

[helderheid]

35. Well, I am sick to death of Obama wearing the same suit!

:P

[slinkerwink]

4. You know that photo of Senator Clinton in the rain? I loved that jacket she was wearing.

It made her look badass.

[dchill]

23. Not sure, but I think she borrowed that one.

:shrug:

[4themind]

5. Letterman is one that's really harped on it

although in hillary's appearances on the show, she's played along with the joke too,but yeah, fashion sense is pretty far down on my list of presidential priorities (well as long as they're wearing SOME kind of clothes at all, lol)

[HockeyMom]

7. People critize Pickles wardrobe too

Her MOB dress looked like it was made from drapes. Gone with the Wind?

They both need to hire fashion consultants. Some women can pull off wearing pants suits (Condi for one), others can't. Hillary, and me, cannot. All they do is make Hillary look shorter and fatter.

[VotesForWomen]

50. because it's ugly, not because it indicates she's not 'staying in her place.'

[sufrommich]

8. Pantsuit = Ballbuster.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Anyone old enough to remember the coming of the pantsuit will remember that the symbolism of the new fashion coincided with the Womans Liberation movement and was derided as "women trying to act like men".

[VotesForWomen]

47. yep; women weren't *allowed* to wear pants in the very recent past. and the ones who were pushing f

for it were villified and man-hating bitches, etc.

[Shakespeare]

9. While I agree that it's a silly thing to fixate on, most of them ARE butt-ugly and too matchy-matchy

I'm not saying she should wear skirts, but those pantsuits are not terribly flattering or fashionable. It's tough for women, because we're hit with an absurdly different fashion standard than men are, so I feel for her. But if I were her "dresser," I'd certainly choose something different than those matching pantsuits day after day after day.

[Life Long Dem]

10. How come nobody makes fun of Pelosi and what she wears?

A lot of it is who is wearing the pants suit.

[Shakespeare]

12. No, Pelosi is a much sharper dresser. n/t

[Life Long Dem]

17. Yeah, Hillary's style looks old fashioned, when it comes to pantsuits.

Pelosi is definitely more stylish.

[anigbrowl]

53. Exactly. Nancy Pelosi has better dress sense.

[Orrex]

11. Does her pantsuit have buttpockets?

I agree with you--it's a pretty dumb "criticism."

[Life Long Dem]

20. I think they have polka dots on them too.

:)

[liberaldem4ever]

13. I think Hillary Clinton is a very pretty lady

I hope I can look as good as she does when I'm in my 60's. What I care about in a Presidential candidate is what they say and what they do, but what they wear? I don't even notice what either one of them (or McCain) wear.

[RazBerryBeret]

14. Ok, I'm a fan of the "power" pantsuit....

in general....but seriously, do you think it Obama came out in a yellow 2 piece suit it wouldn't be talked about?

it's NOT sexism. it's about subtlety--male OR female.

I'm not saying she can't wear bright colors--she actually looks great in brights, but leave it for shirts, blouses and accents. I work in an environment with lot of female executives and I'd have to say brown, gray, black, navy is the way to go. it's an ongoing interview for the biggest job in the country. when in doubt downplay the color. in one debate she wore all brown w/turquoise jewelry and she looked stunning.

[niyad]

18. sorry, it IS sexism. the men candidates are not constantly described in terms of what they wear.

HOW many comments have there been about obama's ties, vs. the number of comments about what Sen. Clinton wears? and what about ANY comments on the repukes?

[RazBerryBeret]

22. I still think that

If Obama wore yellow, pink or red suits it WOULD be commented on.
Obama --- and the majority of men-- are conservative dressers.

( there have been comments about his ties. )

personally, I don't give a crap about what someone wears. personal style is "personal".

but if someone wants to showcase their personal style and be different from the crowd, they should expect comments.
I still say it's not sexist. Maybe that's just me.

for example, if Obama showed up for a debate dressed like this:
http://wonkette.com/361970/obamas-80s-fashion-we-are-the-sweatervest-we-are-waiting-for
do you think there'd be any fashion fall out? yes of course. would it be sexist? No, because he would be breaking
out of the ordinary-gray-suit uniform that is expected of candidates.

[niyad]

28. sigh, you still don't get it.

[RazBerryBeret]

29. no, I get it....

and we will disagree on this point.

[TLM]

43. men candidates are not constantly described in terms of what they wear.

Yeah.... because they all wear the same thing.


If obama showed up wearing a fire engine red suit... are you claiming it would be sexist to comment on it?

[aaaaaa5a]

19. Don't You Think It Sometimes Helps Her To Wear Bright Colors

Like the time when both Obama and Clinton were in the Senate. I thought the red outfit gave her a distinct advantage.







The red pantsuit helps her to stand-out more.

[RazBerryBeret]

24. yes, I agree...

she did stand out...my only problem is that you can't "stand out" with your fashion and then complain cause people comment on it.
I thought the red suit was great, it shows some confidence to break out of the mold and wear something unexpected--but when you do that, people are going to notice! it's not sexism.

[aaaaaa5a]

26. Good Point!!!

[tammywammy]

51. Plus, Hillary can really wear the color red well

:)

[AspenRose]

15. I like the pantsuits

I like Pelosi's better, but I like HRC's dress. :shrug:

[jgraz]

16. Well, I for one always imagine her in a cheerleader outfit.

Wait... did I say that out loud? :yoiks:

[RazBerryBeret]

27. ummm...I think that little

"imaginative scenario" may require some therapy..

hahaha! thanks for the laugh!

[Buzz Clik]

21. sigh. Ok. LET IT BE SAID THAT FROM THIS DAY FORWARD THAT SEN. CLINTON'S PANTSUITS ARE OFF LIMITS.

[tekisui]

25. She does it. She calls herself the lady in the pantsuit, etc.

[aaaaaa5a]

30. I can't Prove This...

But I think her jokes about it are just used to try and deflect ridiculous criticism

[niyad]

31. and if she did dress more fashionably, designer clothing, etc., people

would be jumping on that.

proof that some people have wayyyyyyy too much time on their hands.

[quakerboy]

32. Ok. a question

what the hell is a "pantsuit" and how exactly does it differ from a suit, which one generally wears with pants so long as one does not have a kilt.

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[Beregond2]

34. It's because they are all she wears.

If she'd mix it up a little, it would help. Also so many of them were hideous, like that godawful yellow thing. I've noticed lately they have been much nicer, so apparently the jokes worked.

Mocking people's clothing isn't sexist. And in a political campaign it is relevant to do so, because if people can't even tell when they are making themselves look foolish, what else are they clueless about?

[liberaldem4ever]

36. I guess it shows how much I know about fashion

Now that I'm noticing them, I think she looks nice in the pantsuits. I used to wear things like that to work a lot and people complimented me on them. I thought I looked really nice. :shrug:

[casus belli]

37. Maybe she should dust off the Goldwater Girl outfit. n/t

[JTFrog]

38. This ranks right up there with being sexist for calling her Hillary.

Look to the candidate herself.

[Honeycombe8]

39. I'm a political junkie. Watch/read 20+ hours of politics per week, every week. I have NEVER heard

one negative comment about Hillary's pantsuits. What I HAVE heard are several references like yours....references that claim her pantsuits are being ridiculed, which is evidence of sexism.

This is ridiculous. Hillary looks fantastic, her clothes are awesome, and her pantsuits are terrific. No one of significance is saying ANYTHING negative about her attire, or I would have heard something.

You'll have to try harder than this, if you want to convince people that Hillary lost because she is female.

Sign me....a white, middle aged, female feminist.

[aaaaaa5a]

44. I'm not saying Hillary Clinton Lost Because She Is A Woman...

Quite the contrary.

I think being a woman has HELPED HER.

If a male candidate had run a campaign this poorly, he would have been long gone because he wouldn't have 65% of the women's vote (55% of total Democratic primary voters) to fall back on.

Hillary has also played the gender card, and bashed the media for PERCIEVED unfair coverage.

There is no question that Obama's outstanding record on women's issues (endorsed by NARAL) would have led to him winning the female vote were he not running against Clinton.

If you look at my previous posts you will see that I'm a huge Obama supporter. However I try to be objective. And on this ONE issue, Clinton does take more criticism than her male counterparts because she is a woman.

[billyoc]

40. I never did get that. The DLC are my mortal enemies, but Sen. Clinton always looks great.

:shrug:

[TLM]

41. Because they look ridiculous....

If obama showed up ONCE in a gawd awful melon orange suit the obama haters would screech about it for weeks.

[tammywammy]

42. I have absolutely no problem with Hillary's pantsuits

Pants are more comfortable to wear day to day than a skirt.

I do like some of her suits more than others, but that's just a personal preference.

[aaaaaa5a]

45. Here's A Picture Guide To How To Dress A Presidential Candidate

[VotesForWomen]

46. "pantsuit" is freeper-speak for 'not a real woman,' 'ball-buster,' 'bitch,' etc.

the assholes here who make the pantsuit jokes are just as big dicks as freepers.

[Buzz Clik]

48. It's also a secret code for "A woman who exclusively wears pantsuits."

What the big deal?

[VotesForWomen]

52. Obama always wears pantsuits. don't hear anybody joking/complaining about that.

[Buzz Clik]

54. No, but I've hear comments that he only wears sweatpants when he plays basketball.

It's the way it is. She made a choice to wear pantsuits, I'm assuming to accomodate her phenology. Or maybe she likes them.

It would be a different story if she only wore them once in a blue moon.

Anyway -- I thought "sexism" was the theme for Thursdays. Isn't Saturdays supposed to be reserved for pandering to the blue collar vote?

[otohara]

49. Just The Name Pant-Suit is Funny - Come On

lighten up. Most working women wear pant-suits - especially those of us with funny legs.

Hillary looks good what ever she wears - she's a beautiful women.

[Stop Cornyn]

55. Good point. We should focus on her lapel pin and how much she spends on her hair cuts. Why must they

single Hillary out for unfair criticism unrelated to her policies?

[aaaaaa5a]

56. Good Point!!

Clinton... pantsuits




Edwards... haircuts




Obama... flagpins




It's really sad.