Advice: Let it sink if the OP calls Obama by the name "Barry"

[CreekDog]

When you are reading and wonder whether there is any point in continuing, if you see "Barry" from the author of the post in reference to Obama (or Barack), stop reading, move on, because everything they are saying must be considered in light of the fact that they don't know or choose not to use his name --those being really big barriers to credibility with regard to anything else they say.

i shouldn't really need to explain this one, but it is a handy rule of thumb.

His name is Barack Obama, I believe what he refers to himself is the standard here.

Also, though it doesn't happen anymore (now that even Barack's opponents are quite willing to admit he's black :eyes:), I recommend ignoring any post where the poster argues whether Barack is the race he has stated he is. Unfortunately, I remember many threads where people questioned whether he was black, whether he was black if he was half, etc. I remember those threads with horror. We don't question what race you say you are around here, go to that place that claims to be free for Republicans if you want to do that.

:rant:

[BlooInBloo]

1. What race are you?

:P

[CreekDog]

3. whatever race i say i am

:evilgrin:

but i'll give you a hint, apparently I voted for Barack because I like "lattes" rather than because of my race. :think:

[BlooInBloo]

7. :))

[stratomagi]

64. I voted for him because he's the same color as my venti mocha. nt

[WonderGrunion]

30. Boston Marathon

N/M

[Yael]

2. I just chalk them up as LIV who can't spell

so are using a white nationalist shortcut.

[CreekDog]

4. LIV?

what's that?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

5. Low-information voter.

[CreekDog]

6. thank you

:hi:

[Faygo Kid]

8. They really support another Barry. At the Copacabana.

It's OK, my friend. We have won, and he will be the nominee of our party. I am with you on the frustration, however. But we have won. I am scared, however, as I was born in 1951, and know what may happen.

But for now, Copacabana!

[napi21]

9. I don't understand why you have a problem with a nickname.

For 45+ years, I had nicknames wor everyone I worked with and for, and they had nicknames for me. I was a STRONG Dean supporter and I often referred to him as Howie. I view those as signs of friendship, not disrespect. Barack also was known by his friends in College as Barry. Somehow I doubt his friends & relatives don't always call him Barack...even now.

[CreekDog]

11. Name one nice thing someone has said about Obama here while calling him Barry

and you will see my point.

as the owner of a nickname myself, I don't have problem with nicknames, I have a problem when they are used or made up to diminish the person.

[napi21]

16. Honestly...I haven't seen any posts like that. The only way I knew

he used to go by Barry when he was in school was from a news bio on one of the cable channels. I've seen quite a few negative posts against both of our candidates, but none of them used what I would call a nickname! Most of the names I've seen were way beyond that!

[napi21]

17. Honestly...I haven't seen any posts like that. The only way I knew

he used to go by Barry when he was in school was from a news bio on one of the cable channels. I've seen quite a few negative posts against both of our candidates, but none of them used what I would call a nickname! Most of the names I've seen were way beyond that!

[whistler162]

19. The nice thing about the nickname Barry is...

it goes better with Givem' Heck than Barack does.

Givem' Heck Barack just doesn't have the ring that Givem' Heck Barry does.

[CreekDog]

20. find me a poster who uses Barry in a post that is complimentary to Obama

and you might just change my mind.

[whistler162]

21. Ummm... I don't believe I have ever insulted

Senator Obama and it is right there in my sig!

[WonderGrunion]

34. We should pull a "Randall" from Clerks II

and "take it back"

"Barry is a better candidate than Hilly"

"Barry is going to be the next president of the United States of America"

"Hilly will do better in swing states than Barry because she's used to the swinger lifestyle"

OK, that last one was a low blow.

[WonderGrunion]

32. The great thing about the name Barack

is you can substitute it for any of the catchphrases from professional wrestler/actor The Rock.

"Barack says, know your damn roll."

"If you smelllllllllllllll what Barack is cooking"

"Barack says that John McCain is just a rottie-poo candy-ass jabronie"

See how easy it is. And working class whites understand pro-wrestling"

[EFerrari]

39. Because nicknames given to us by our familiar friends and family

are tokens of affection.

Nicknames used by our opponents are put downs, a way of defining us on their terms.

[CreekDog]

54. bingo

:hi:

[LowerManhattanite]

10. “Barry” is a favored dimunition of the Taylor Marsh/No Quarter dead-enders...

...and smear merchants.

And as those sites are the clearing houses central for the talking point / conference-call bombardment we're experiencing right now, when you see it run nowadays, one should especially understand from where it's sprung.

Cut-and-paste opinioneering—and it's pretty damned transparent.

[jefferson_dem]

45. They've been using it in Freeperville for a couple years.

Nowadays, it's virtually impossible to tell Taylor Marsh / No Quarter dead enders from knuckle-dragging freepers.

[GoneOffShore]

77. There is no difference.

[Buzz Clik]

12. "Barry" is an instant Ignore with no comment.

[MADem]

13. Does that apply equally to Hitlery, Hillarious, Billary, Billious, Hillbot, etc?

Cankles, ageist remarks, bitch, that C word I saw here just a day or two ago, pantsuit snark, that kind of shit? Vicious pictures, a moratorium on those too? All of that shameful crap, and you're outraged at smartass use of his childhood name, "Barry?"


You do rather reap what you sow. Such a shock.


And since there are more Obama supporters here than Clinton ones, you are the ones doing most of the sowing.

I call him Senator Obama, myself. That doesn't prevent people from talking about Clinton to me in the terms I have described above.

So perhaps you might spend just a BIT more time cleaning your own house before you suggest that others need to get out the mop and broom.

[CreekDog]

14. Yes it applies to those too

and I defended Clinton around here quite a bit, especially when I thought I was going to vote for her.

it would be useful to understand exactly how she lost a lot of supporters like me to Obama (in fact me just in time to vote on Super Tuesday 2/5).

[MADem]

15. You need to work a little harder.

The invective is probably four to one, Clinton v. Obama.

Which is why people have left.

[CreekDog]

18. thanks to lots of tombstones, the invective against Obama is less

and most of the anti Obama stuff is cut and paste with little original thought.

[MADem]

37. ;;;

:cry:

You may or may not understand when I say perspective is a matter of where you are standing.

[Evergreen Emerald]

42. Please point me to a thread you started asking Obama supporters to stop calling Clinton names.

I missed it and would find it refreshing in this biased and ugly atmosphere.

[MADem]

60. I've protested every time I have seen such language, and I've seen it frequently.

I don't "start" threads often. I don't feel a need to pee on the tree like some. When I see the comments I protest. Sometimes they are removed, and sometimes not.

[LTR]

28. "Goldwater Girl" is acceptable

After all, she was one in school.

[MADem]

40. Of course it. Just like "friend of former domestic terrorists" is, too, eh?

Goldwater, for his many failings, wasn't a homophobe, and didn't believe in discrimination against gays. He was wiser than campaign assistants McClurkin and Caldwell on that score.

[LTR]

41. Oh, I see

It's guilt by association, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich

[MADem]

59. Certainly. That shit cuts both ways. However, it seems to me that the

name calling moratorium proposed here is proffered only to cut one way.

And that's crap.

[Major Hogwash]

62. Hahahahahahahaha! Hillary was a REPUBLICAN!!!!

It's sooooooo true.

[CreekDog]

36. my house is spotless

:hi:

but my housecleaning is irrelevant.

[leftofcool]

22. Barry who?

[TZ]

23. All I know is that I will ignore posters...

who don't know if Obama is a he or a she! Just kidding...Thats for you, CreekChicken (bwak!);-)

[CreekDog]

24. ruh roh!

:spank:

[Name removed]

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[Undercurrent]

26. I prefer

future President Obama.

[2rth2pwr]

27. Correct me if I'm wrong on the list- No BO because that's insulting and refers

to something unclean, Can't use BHO because it is an obvious attempt at drawing attention to the middle initial, Can't use his full name

ie. first, middle and last, again because it is focusing on the middle name for nefarious purposes, Can't use the name he went by for a

long period of his life, the B*rry name referred to in the OP, because it's disrespectful. When speaking his name aloud, you must not say

it too slowly, else it may be seen as an attack on him as being "different".

Did I miss any? I'm pretty scared that I may have.

[Auntie Bush]

50. It's not nice to call God by a nickname either. n/t

[Raine]

29. I'm an Obama supporter but I didn't know

that "Barry" was considered insulting. I thought that Obama himself had gone by that nickname while in school? :shrug:

[MonkeyFunk]

72. Well, I just saw another Obama supporter

claim that using the name "barry" is indicative of white supremacism. This place is hard to read some days for all the crazy.

[WonderGrunion]

31. Can we call him

Ba-Ba-Booie Bo-Bo-Bama?

It's got kind of a Sinatra / Martin feel to it.

[CreekDog]

35. well, if only he's one of those swinging a go go bo be da bop winning cats

i like jack, now make it Barack! :hi:

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[EFerrari]

38. Agreed. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

43. That's been my rule of thumb for a long while now.

Using that label is a dog whistle that signals to me that I should dismiss outright anything else the poster has to offer.

[knixphan]

44. Absolutely - LET BS SINK.

[unblock]

46. "barry" is a more american-sounding name than "barack"

if anything, calling him "barry" undermines the right-wing argument that he's some foreign-influenced muslim.

heck, "barry" is a guy you want to have a beer with :rofl:

[Name removed]

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[mia]

48. I agree. They call Obama "Barry" on right-wihg websites.

or they call by his middle name.

[OzarkDem]

49. What's wrong with "Barry"

that's his name, the one his closest friends have used for many, many years.

[CreekDog]

55. all you people claiming to be so knowledgable and perpceptive about Obama

and you don't even know why or how "Barry" is used by his opponents to minimize him.

perhaps your opinions about him aren't that insightful after all since this fact is so lost on you.

[datopbanana]

61. you aren't his friend

[MethuenProgressive]

51. Barack's mother and grandparents called him Barry. All his Hawaiian friends called him Barry.

Buncha racists!
:rofl:

[CreekDog]

53. are you his grandmother or a Hawaiian friend that knew him in childhood?

you miss the point so fantastically.

[MethuenProgressive]

56. Your point is: You want to make up a reason to call people racists.

You made your point.

[CreekDog]

57. nope, I never said use of "Barry" made it a racist comment

or that it had anything to do with race at all.

but it IS used in attacks on Obama and the reason I think people should save their time and not read screeds calling him "Barry" is because the fairness and accuracy of the entire post is so clouded by the fact that they cannot get his name right or because they are referring to him as Barry when nearly everybody, including the candidate himself, goes by the name Barack, intentionally.

apparently you *got* a point that was never made nor intended by me.

i do think you are confusing me with other Obama supporters who did do what you've said, but I have not.

[ampad]

52. Ignore is your friend people

Please for the love of your blood pressure and health use it! I haven't seen the name Barry on this board since I put a couple of poster on ignore. It's strange how I have no idea what some of you are reading because of my extensive ignore list.

[jgraz]

58. For those who don't know (or pretend not to), "Barry" is the nickname favored by white supremacists

It's a dogwhistle to racists who know that calling Obama "boy" will not be tolerated in polite company. So instead, they choose an infantilizing name that basically means the same thing.

[Major Hogwash]

63. I thought they were trying to tie him to other people named Barry.

I didn't think it was preferred by racists or supremacists.
Because that makes no damn sense.
I thought it was because they were trying to link him to Barry Owens, who has been in the news so much lately.

[MethuenProgressive]

71. Barry Harris, Barry Bonds, Barry White, Barry Manilow...

:eyes:

[Name removed]

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[backscatter712]

66. The use of "Barry" by freeper types is dog-whistle racism.

They can't call him n****r, so they started calling him "boy" (picture Buford T. Justice in Alabama arresting some hapless black kid for being in town after sundown and saying "You're in a heap of trouble, boy!")

People got wise to Obama being called "boy", so they started calling him "Barry" because that's what people called Barack when he was a kid.

It's classic dog-whistle racism.

[MethuenProgressive]

76. The use of Barry by his college classmates was dog-whistle racism?

Wow. Did anyone tell him?

[BigDDem]

67. His High School was out to get him

[crankychatter]

68. They mostly come pre-ignored, so I don't need a formula for sifting though the crap

it's on election nights when they drop the bells and whistles here... and even my hide thread goes tits up, that I get frazzled

[Snarkturian Clone]

69. Lame NT

[displacedtexan]

70. Obama's friends (in this pic) would argue with you.

Are you telling these people not to call Obama Barry, too?

[CreekDog]

73. what friend of Obama here calls him "Barry"

please inform us.

[MethuenProgressive]

74. what friend of Obama posts on here at all?

You think his friends post here?
They quite probably have never heard of, or wouldn't give a shit about, this site.
You're inventing "outrage" to have something to cry "racism!" about.

[CreekDog]

75. show a quote where I said "Barry" was racism

just one.

a mind is a terrible thing to waste you know. :eyes: