She Just Might Be President Someday

[mystieus]

NyTimes:

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton may or may not become the first female president of the United States, but if fate and voters deny her the role, another woman will surely see if the mantle fits.

That woman will come from the South, or west of the Mississippi. She will be a Democrat who has won in a red state, or a Republican who has emerged from the private sector to run for governor. She will have executive experience, and have served in a job like attorney general, where she will have proven herself to be “a fighter” (a caring one, of course).

She will be young enough to qualify as postfeminist (in the way Senator Barack Obama has come off as postracial), unencumbered by the battles of the past. She will be married with children, but not young children. She will be emphasizing her experience, and wearing, yes, pantsuits.

Oh, and she may not exist.

But this composite of Madam President is suggested by political strategists and talent scouts, politicians and those who study women in politics. It is based as much on the lessons of the Clinton candidacy as on the enduring truths of politics and the number and variety of women who dot the leadership landscape.

Caveats abound: as Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, emphasized last week, this thing is not over. And these predictions may prove as false as any by the time the first woman takes the oath of office — whether in 7 months or 9 years or 90.

With all that said, there are few obvious candidates, particularly among Republicans, perhaps because there are about twice as many Democrats among women in elective office nationwide. Sarah Palin, the Republican governor of Alaska, is on many lists — she’s known as a reformer as well as for riding a motorcycle and referring to her husband as the “first dude.” On the Democratic side, the names that come up most seem to be Govs. Janet Napolitano of Arizona and Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas, both Obama supporters.

Asked to name a potential first woman as president, though, even the shrewdest political strategists said they couldn’t think of anyone. Most people disqualified their prospects as soon as they identified them — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, for example — for one reason or another. As Susan Carroll, a professor at the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University, said, “It’s easier to embrace the concept than it is to talk about names.”

Still, this year’s historic campaign has revealed something about the kind of candidate who might emerge, and what strategies she might adopt.

Two page article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/weekinreview/18zernike.html?ref=weekinreview

[Ian David]

1. Barbara Boxer!!! Where the hell is Barbara Boxer! Barbara Boxer in 2016! n/t

[ekwhite]

11. Honestly, I would prefer a governor. N/T

[rurallib]

22. sadly BB is nearly as old as McCain - 68 this year.

[cali]

44. Barbara Boxer will be 75 in 2016. She's 67 now

She'll be 68 next November.

[Botany]

2. Jennifer Brunner Ohio Sec. of State

(NECN: Boston, Mass.) - Jennifer Brunner, Secretary of State of Ohio, was presented a Profile in Courage Award at the John F. Kennedy Library on Monday for her effort in challenging the reliability of electronic voting systems in Ohio.

The annual awards are named for a 1957 Pulitzer Prize-winning book authored by John F. Kennedy.

The awards are administered by the John F. Kennedy Library Foundation, headed by the former president's daughter, Caroline Kennedy.

[Yael]

3. I honestly don't like the precedent that HRC has set

It will damage their chances.

It would have been better if your Kansas Gov (or another similarly qualified) took the first shot at this.

She was simply the wrong woman at the wrong time and set back a female candidate's chances dramatically.

(Spoken as a female, BTW).

[K Gardner]

5. She has set a horrible precedent, I agree, but as a POLITICIAN. I think another woman with

more realism, more integrity and more dignity would do just fine ! America is ready.. just not for Hillary.

:hi:

[Cha]

17. Maybe the 3rd time will be the

charm. The next time there may be a viable female candidate who has our country's interests at heart and not the dlc dino's corporatemediawhores'.

Not that Carol Moseley Braun didn't..I don't really know that much about her but hilary's campaigning let us know we dodged a big ol' bullet.

[whistler162]

73. If you look at it....

it took how many tries for a African American candidate to arrive on the scene that could appeal to a broader base?

[BlooInBloo]

30. Yah - I feel bad for future lying, race-baiting, warmonger candidates.

:nopity:

[papau]

4. Hill is/was the last chance for the next 20 years

[anigbrowl]

7. Yeah, screw these women and their 'achievments'.

They're clearly worthless and inadequate, especially because they got where they are on their own.

[Gore1FL]

8. I don't think so

The avalanche has already started. The premise that it could not happen has been shattered.

[ekwhite]

12. Only for the next eight years

I think one of the reasons female candidates did not come out of the woodwork was because of Hillary Clinton. We will have a smart, capable female candidate running in 2016.

[Jackpine Radical]

14. You damn right.

I wanna vote for a woman for President.

Right after the black guy gets done with the job.

[scheming daemons]

29. Hillary Clinton was worse than all of the above except for Rice and Fiorina....

If Condi or Carly get anywhere near the presidency, we're all screwed.


Carly ran HP into the ground.... and we all know about Condi.



The rest of the above are ALL better future candidates than Hillary.... including Chelsea.

[DemVet]

48. Agreed.

Why any woman, hell, ANYONE, want to go through the abuse HRC has put up with I'll never know.

[jgraz]

71. I'd like to think that most women would run a more competent campaign than Hillary did

Hell, most retarded chimpanzees would run a more competent campaign than she has.

[Terran]

55. what an idiotic statement

Hilary as Savior...get real.

[slinkerwink]

57. Actually, no. I think there'll be a female president within ten years, thanks to Hillary

[moondust]

58. Hillary is a coattailer.

Some if not all the above women have made it on their own.

[uberllama42]

74. Yeah, HRC hasn't broken down any barriers or anything. All she's done is prove women can't win

Way to support your candidate. :eyes:

[anigbrowl]

6. I demand an end to this hideous sexism

All women not named Hillary Clinton are puppets of the male dominated media arithmetic conspiracy.

Also, Clinton supporters keep pointing out to me that Janet Napolitano might be a lesbian so she just can't be allowed to compete in a national race, especially not as Obama's VP. Because Arizona is SO liberal and 2 terms of balanced budgets and job creation are less important than what the Republicans might feel about her. If Janet NApolitano were presidential material she'd have had had the sense to marry Bill Clinton back in the day.

[jgraz]

72. .

:rofl:

[ekwhite]

9. Carly Fiorina, Kaye Bailey Hutchinson, and Condileeza Rice?

I hope not. The sheer thought of that creeps me out. :scared:

Kathleen Sebelius, Janet Napolitano, and Amy Klobuchar - definitely :thumbsup:

Chelsea Clinton is way off in the future.

The others I don't know about. Is Beverly Perdue related to Sonny Perdue?

By the way, this post rocks! :yourock:

[mmonk]

46. No chance on Rice.

Her lies throughout this administration make her too vulnerable to the truth.

[mystieus]

10. Kathleen Sebelius of course :p

[ekwhite]

15. I respectfully disagree

Janet Napolitano :P

[madrchsod]

19. she has a lot of qualifications to be vice president to president

she`s my pick

[Jackpine Radical]

13. Weird--not one of the Republican women is smiling.

Either whoever selected the photos is One of Us, or it's hard to catch a Republican smiling.

[Blue_In_AK]

18. Sarah's almost always smiling...

I think whoever picked this picture must have gone through hundreds to come up with one where she hasn't got a grin on her face. I think that's probably why she's so popular here, she's always upbeat. Here's a more representative shot.

[Straight Shooter]

62. My intution tells me that's the one.

Her face "jumped out" from the lineup of photos.

I don't know a thing about her, so it's just my impression. :)

[JimGinPA]

16. Chelsea Clinton?

That's beyond ridiculous.

[woolldog]

20. Agreed.

:puke:

[madrchsod]

21. she was my pick for the future

but her mom and dad killed off any chance if she did want to run.

[woolldog]

24. this is america. no heriditary rule here.

:patriot:

[MyNameGoesHere]

43. No rule against it either unless you have

changed the constitution and didn't tell us?

[woolldog]

75. no more Clintons or Bushes please. enough is enough.

There is too much talent in this country for 2 families to rule it for so long.

[alcibiades_mystery]

67. On what basis could she possibly be your pick?

You don't know the slightest thing about her, she's held no public office, and her work--what little of it there is--is a complete mystery to everybody.

Chelsea Clinton has the same qualifications to be President as any one of thirty or forty young women I see on the El every morning.

[onehandle]

23. Sour grapes supreme. nt

[ekwhite]

28. Why?

We are talking about future presidential candidates. The Clinton name certainly will help her. Of course, she will have to actually get involved in politics. We are talking 20-30 years before she is ready to run for President.

[greguganus]

63. Little Miss HedgeFund for president. lol n/t

[GoneOffShore]

25. Six of them scare me.

You can guess which ones.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. This article is really digging

Meg Whitman? Really?

Have you ever seen a single article proposing that Jeff Bezos might someday be president? It seems like somebody decided to put together a list of all the accomplished women they could think of - and came up with a handful. I dunno why, but it bugs me.

[ekwhite]

31. Carly Fiorino is the real joke in the bunch

After seeing how she ran HP, I wouldn't vote for her for dogcatcher.

[Boz]

36. She would go to jail as soon as she started running, the dirt on her is a mile deep

[harun]

65. Exactly

[MonkeyFunk]

37. Agreed

but it just seems patronizing to compile a list of every woman of note in america and claim they might be President.

[NashVegas]

53. delete

[Captain Hilts]

27. Tripe. Rice, Kay Bailey H, etc. have NO CHANCE. Wishful thinking for most of these. nt

[slinkerwink]

32. Perdue seems really interesting. Haven't heard her floated as an Obama VP.

[anigbrowl]

34. She just got the nomination to run for governorship of NC

She has a ways to go yet before she's ready for national politics.

[musicblind]

40. She's running for Governor in NC in 2008

and I am excited for her! I really really hope she gets it!

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[slinkerwink]

35. Oh my god, what if McCain picks Palin as VP?

[SoCalDem]

38. Chelsea??? C'mon..enough already & KB Hutch?? No way

Condi??:rofl:

Some of them might be qualified, but those three??

[musicblind]

39. Great to see such a nice picture of Bev Perdue up there!

I also believe she has a VERY good chance of being our Governor in NC in 2008

[papapi]

41. Britney Spears for President! White working class men would...

....vote for her. They seem to be the only ones who count, in some peep's opinion.

JUST KIDDING!!! GEEZ!!!

[Clear Blue Sky]

49. And who would her VP be? Paris or Lindsay?

[mystieus]

50. ha haha

[WinkyDink]

42. None of the above. Zero chance.

[cd3dem]

45. In other words, step aside ladies it is not your turn... again, women are told what they cannot do!

Women are not going to look at this and say it is fine... BO is inexperienced and we got swiftboated to boost the man!

[LizW]

61. But it will happen soon, ladies...just keep giving us your votes

Really, we TOTALLY support the IDEA of a woman President. It can absolutely happen!

Just not this time, and not this woman. But look! Just look at the array of great women you have to choose from.....sometime in the, uh, future.

Be patient, and KEEP VOTING and SENDING MONEY!!!

:sarcasm:

[ShortnFiery]

47. Chelsea Clinton deserves NO PLACE there?!? She's 28 y.o. and cannot be interviewed by the press.

:eyes:

Chelsea Clinton will go back to her six figured salary in NY State.

And that is a good thing for both herself and our beloved Nation.

No more! Surname - CLINTON or BUSH in our Executive Branch. :thumbsup:

[baldguy]

51. If they were talking about possible candidates for the first black President 10 yrs ago

Would Barack Obama have been on the list?

[IDemo]

52. Carly would simply outsource the entire US government to India and exit with a huge golden parachute

[Terran]

54. That's a weird list, IMO

Sarah Steelman (Republican), our somewhat kooky state Treasurer here in Missouri who will almost certainly lose the Governor's race to a Dem...but no mention of Claire McCaskill, US Senator for Missouri (Democrat).

[moondust]

56. Don't forget...

Noelle Bush

[meow mix]

59. Chelsea?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Tribetime]

60. Did you really have to put a picture of Hutchison up there

was trying to enjoy my Sunday, and had flashbacks to landlady in the movie Kingpin.

[whatchamacallit]

64. No more fucking CEOs please

and while we're at it cross Condi, Chelsea, and all republicans off the list as well.

[LittleBlue]

66. Chelsea wtf? Is this country a monarchy?

:wtf:

Are we just electing regents in between Clintons?

[Exilednight]

68. Sebelius has the best chance. n/t

[HughBeaumont]

69. Great choices on the Republican side.

Kay Bailey Hutchison . .. She's a CNBC favorite along with other supply-sider free-trade Reaganites like Jack Welch and Steve Forbes. I think that has to do with the fact that CNBC itself is loaded with free-market capitalists on their staff, and pro-corporate opinions are always welcome. Either way, that woman is loathsome and hypocritical, having different standards for law, impeachment and indictment when it comes to Republican vs Democratic presidents. She's also a shameless shill for the Bewsh Admin and all of it's horridity.

Condosleeza Rice. Gee, that makes sense, if "making sense" means failing continually at your job and getting promoted for doing so.

Carly Fiorina. Wow, that's a stretch. So an ex-CEO, whose great "strategery" more or less consists of firing everyone and getting some dirt cheap labor in exchange, who ran Lucent in the ground, made poor choices in mergers, spent more money at HP to stay in the same place they were five years prior to her exit, and gets lottery-esque exit packages for all of her shittiness . . . is qualified to be president . .. HOW?

[dana_b]

70. Voice of reason!

Cathy Fiorino is a , God, I can't say the words here. One of my best friends worked for HP - she was layed off and had to go down to Costa Rico to teach the two barely English people who were taking over her job. Then she got back, lost her job, and HP completely screwed her over on her compensation package. All due to this woman. Detestable- she would be a nightmare for the American people.