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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 09:07 PM
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Obama will have the majority of delegates with pick up in KY (updated)
Edited on Sat May-17-08 09:45 PM by ProSense
Current delegate totals: Obama 1904, Hillary 1717
Obama +187

Hillary's best case scenario:

Hillary wins Kentucky 65% to 35%

Obama gets 18 out of 51 Kentucky delegates and clinches the nomination

Delegate totals with Kentucky: Obama 1922, Hillary 1750
Obama +172

Obama wins Oregon 52% to 48%

Delegate totals with Kentucky and Oregon: Obama 1949, Hillary 1775
Obama +174

Delegate counter

Obama picks up delegates in Kan., Md., Nev.

14.5 PLEDGED DELEGATES needed for a majority

115 TOTAL DELEGATES needed for the nomination



Edited title to reflect delegates.

Update:

For those who are still spinning FL and MI, the scenarios leave Hillary 156 to 178 delegates behind Obama.

Obama then needs 138 to 153 to reach the required delegate count.

After KY and OR, Hillary will need 305 to 309 delegates to reach the required delegate count.

Problem: Only 86 pledged delegates are up for grabs after May 20.






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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 09:17 PM
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1. No comment?
Play around with the delegate counter. That's all that's left to do, well, that and waiting for Hillary to concede.

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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 09:20 PM
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2. Thanks for the math!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 10:01 PM
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6. Why do people hate math?
It's fun and hard to spin.

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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:41 AM
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23. Definitely! (lol)
I enjoy reading your posts, ProSense!

:hi:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 09:22 PM
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3. After WV, how wonderfully ironic that he can get all 15 delegates from KY
with as little as 30% of the vote.

:woohoo:
rocknation
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 09:45 PM
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4. FL and MI scenario added to OP. n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 10:33 PM
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12. My bad! I should have written that Obama would clinch the DELEGATE LEAD
Edited on Sat May-17-08 10:36 PM by rocknation
--not the nomination--by picking up 15 pledged delegates from KY with as little as 30% of the vote.

:headbang:
rocknation
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 09:47 PM
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5. wont it be OR that puts him over since their results will come in after KY?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 10:04 PM
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7. It'll put him more over the top
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 10:04 PM
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8. He need 2025 to have a majority of the delegates
currently. right?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 10:08 PM
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10. No. n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:56 AM
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13. How do you figure?
there are 4049 delegates currently, without MI and FL.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/02/delegate.explainer/index.html
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:36 AM
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14. Majority of *pledged* delegates.
4049 is including superdelegates.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:03 AM
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22. Ah, so the OP
is wrong. Misleading.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:34 AM
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25. *Obama will have the majority of pledged delegates with pick up in KY
There, completely true! :)
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:06 PM
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26. That's fine
but the OP is still misleading - deliberately so. But I don't expect some of the Obama fans here to ever tell the truth.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 10:12 PM
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11. Nope.
NT!

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 10:05 PM
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9. But math is so......boring. We would rather talk about "electibility" in GE.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:51 AM
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15. He clinches the lead...but not the NOMINATION.
He needs to have 2025 to do that.

Having the lead is like leading a football game at the end of the third quarter.

Fourth quarter coming up...the convention.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:59 AM
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17. I would call the Convention overtime.
And, we are in the last minutes of the fourth quarter. The signals from team Clinton have been sent out, I don't think it will go to the Convention. It will go until Mid-June at the absolute latest.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:00 AM
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18. Sorry, it won't go t o the convention. Even Hillary is no longer suggesting
it will. Obama is only 120 delegates from 2025. By next Wednesday he'll be around 60 away from it. He'll be at 2025 by June 4- or at whatever number he needs to become the presumptive nominee. Hillary doesn't have the resources to take it to the Convention, and by putting Obama over the top the SDs will have sent her an unmistakable message: Time to concede.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:05 AM
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19. He clinches the majority which as we are seeing is sealing the nomination
via the landslide of superdelegate support....he should clinch the nomination on or before June 3rd at this rate.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:32 AM
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24. If it the landslide isn't over on Wednesday, it will be by the weekend.
After Tuesday, there is no reason for any "Pelosi club" SD to hold back.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:57 AM
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16. Will we get the big fundraising numbers Monday?
That would be a good time to start a great few days of press. The money on Monday, with a few SD's. A big OR win, big speech in Iowa on Tuesday. A flood of SD's from Pelosi Club and more on Wednesday. A trip to Florida, with (fingers crossed) Al Gore.

This should be a good week.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:08 AM
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20. My guess is the numbers come out on Wednesday
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:09 AM
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21. They have to be out by the 20th, I guess a late night release
would hit the airwaves on Wednesday AM.
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