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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 11:46 PM
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Obama now leads Hillary by 192 delegates. There are only 189 pledged delegates still up for grabs.
Edited on Sat May-17-08 11:50 PM by Yanez Houston Jordan
It is not mathematically impossible for her to come back from this astronomical deficit, but she'd almost certainly need the super delegates to overturn the voters' decision.

DemConWatch: http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/

Edited to add 2 more delegates for Obama!
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 11:57 PM
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1. great!
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Stapz Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:03 AM
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2. its over
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:13 AM
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3. it's ... not ... over ...... it's ... never ...oooooover!!
she can still turn obama pledged delegates to her side by bribing them with extra froth on the latte!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:17 AM
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4. It is now over
28 years of a bush or a Clinton is done.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:18 AM
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5. Does this mean it's over?? Is she TOAST????
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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:09 AM
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16. It's been over for a while. This is just another way to show how inconceivable a comeback would be
Mathematically possible (hypothetically), but political impossible
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:19 AM
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6. So even if she wins every single delegate left she still cannot win right?
What in the living hell is she still doing spending her supporters money playing a game that she knows she can not win????????

The only way she can win is if the super delegates turn everything backasswards just like the fucking 2000 election that gave us george fucking bush?
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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:38 AM
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14. The remaining uncommitted include 189 pledged delegates, 227 super delegates and 9 Edwards delegates
Obama needs 117 of these while Hillary needs 309.

Hillary can't catch up even if she could win all the remaining plegded delegates - she'd need super delegates, too, because Obama would still be ahead even if she won 100% of the pledged delegates awarded in the remaining primaries.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:06 AM
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19. No, she can win
the same way Obama will have to win - with superdelegates.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:19 AM
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20. not quite the same. He needs maybe 45 or so. She needs three
times that. The odds of her getting the SDs to flock to her are very, very small.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 03:03 PM
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21. That's not the question
The assertion that people are making is not that it's difficult for her to win - they're saying it's mathematically impossible, which simply isn't true.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:26 PM
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22. Where does the OP say it's mathematically impossible? I think her odds are incalculably small but
not zero.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:20 AM
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7. I like your name.
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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:19 AM
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17. I'm increasingly optimistic that we win some seats back on the Texas Supreme Court.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:22 AM
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8. Mmmmmm...


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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:23 AM
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9. I heard its about who has the most square feet of support now
HRC says delegates no longer count, or something like that.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:31 AM
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11. If you use HRC new method of counting she is winning.
First off the caucus states don't, then small states except for West Virginia don't count. Also you have to throw out Illinois and 90% of the African American vote. After you do all of that you must add the votes from FL and MI. One more thing Super delegates that came out for Obama also don't count and the ones that switched from Hillary to Obama still counts for Hillary. Using that math Hillary wins by a landslide.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:25 AM
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10. MSM has already forgotten about her -- its 24/7 Obama-McBush.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 12:25 AM by quantass
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:37 AM
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12. there you go with that math again...
HRC doesn't like math.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:38 AM
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13. Bah, that's only math. Where are the MAPS?!?!?!?!
Damnit.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:00 AM
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18. Maps? It's MOOPS!
Dammit!

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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:44 AM
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15. Game, Set, Match Obama will win within moments of returns coming in from Kentucky
And by the Time Oregon results start coming in they will have called the primary for Obama.
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