Why not?

[Brundle_Fly]

it's the republicans worst nightmare, so I propose to you... why not?

[FrenchieCat]

1. Because, there are better considerations......

without the baggage.




She's a Governor.....of Kansas, and her father was the Governor......of Ohio.

She was born in Ohio and didn't leave till she was 26.

She's Catholic.

Sebelius was born and raised in a Catholic family in Cincinnati, Ohio. She attended the Summit Country Day School, a Roman Catholic secondary school, followed by Trinity Washington University, a Roman Catholic university in Washington, D.C., and later earned a Master of Public Administration degree from the University of Kansas. She moved to Kansas in 1974 at the age of 26, where she served for eight years as a representative in the Kansas Legislature and eight years as Insurance Commissioner before being elected governor.

Sebelius is the daughter of former Ohio governor John J. Gilligan, and thus they became the first father/daughter governor pair in the United States after her election.<3> Her husband K. Gary Sebelius<4> is a federal magistrate judge and the son of former U.S. Representative Keith Sebelius, a Republican. They have two sons. She also visits her childhood and current vacation home, located in Leland, Michigan, north of Traverse City, Michigan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius


Her dad:

John Joyce ("Jack") Gilligan (born March 22, 1921) is a Democratic politician from the U.S. state of Ohio who served as a U.S. Representative and the 62nd governor of Ohio.

Gilligan was born in Cincinnati, Ohio. He graduated from St. Xavier High School in 1939, the University of Notre Dame in 1943 and the University of Cincinnati in 1947, serving in between in the U.S. Navy during World War II in the Atlantic, Pacific and Mediterranean as a destroyer gunnery officer. He was awarded a Silver Star for gallantry in action at Okinawa.

After the war, Gilligan returned to Cincinnati to teach literature at Xavier University from 1948 to 1953. He also served as member of the Cincinnati city council from 1953 to 1963, and was a candidate for Ohio Congressman-at-Large in 1962. In 1964 he was elected to the Eighty-ninth Congress as a representative for Ohio's 1st district, serving from January 3, 1965-January 3, 1967. Gilligan lost his re-election bid to the Ninetieth Congress in 1966 to Republican Robert Taft Jr. after the Ohio General Assembly redrew his district to be more Republican. In 1968, Gilligan defeated sitting U.S. Senator Frank J. Lausche in the Democratic primary; however, he lost in the general election to Republican William B. Saxbe.

Gilligan won the election for the Governorship of Ohio in 1970, defeating Republican Roger Cloud, and serving from 1971 to 1975. Gilligan lost the governorship to Republican James A. Rhodes in a tight race in 1974. He subsequently served as the administrator of United States Agency for International Development (USAID) from 1977 to 1979. He served as director of the Institute for Public Policy from 1979 to 1986, and taught at the University of Notre Dame from 1986 to 1992. He also served as director of the civic issues forum at the University of Cincinnati School of Law.

In 1999, at age 78, Gilligan was elected to the Board of Education of the Cincinnati Public Schools. He chose not to stand for re-election when his term expired in 2007.

Gilligan is the father of four children, including Kathleen Sebelius, the current governor of Kansas. They constitute the first father-daughter pair of governors in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Gilligan

[Whalestoe]

5. You hit the nail on the head.

...and I want Sebelius on the ticket bad. Plus, look at them pointing out all of McCain's glaring faults in that picture!

[FrenchieCat]

7. LOL! Yes they are pointing at his flaws, and having fun doing it too!

and Welcome to DU!

[Whalestoe]

10. But really, who doesn't have fun doing that? = )

And thanks for the welcoming.

[Boz]

8. She is best suited Secretary of state,VP needs to be a utilitarian like Richardson

She has detail and Diplomacy as her strengths. Obama needs a VP that balances his weakness, the fifty state means that weakness isnt bringing a state to the table (ohio and kansas) but a region(Southwest)Richardson.

She will be an awesome voice to the world as Secretary of State

[FrenchieCat]

11. I disagree.

Gov. Sebelius brings to the table a strong woman without baggage who bring in a couple of states.

My understanding is that she is squeaky clean.

She helps with women, Catholics, Ohio, Kansas and she is a governor, not from Washington.

Obama is currently ahead of of McCain by 7 points in New Mexico.

Richardson is the one that will make an awesome Secretary of State.

[Boz]

15. Absolutely one of our strongest democrats,but like I said Obama has midwest in good shape,Ohio will

Not go democrat, it will sit on the edge 48% 49%. But Wisconsin will offset that in the 50 state.

In the 50 state the only weak spot regionally( and thus the VP geographical impact in play ) is the plains and southwest.

Im concerned of her national brand recognition, we know her (du world) but it took 16 months or better to get Obama national in best possible world we have about 6 months to raise her penetration, worst case 3-4 months. No way.

Richardson has that Name Brand penetration that Hillary has ridden into success in the plains.

Don't have to reinvent the wheel with him, we already have an uphill grind on Brand penetration.

She will be strong for All Americans in the Cabinet.

[Labors of Hercules]

20. "Richardson is the one that will make an awesome Secretary of State."

Absolutely right!

[Exilednight]

27. I agree. Richardson should be Secretary of State or Chief of Staff. n/t

[boobooday]

16. I like her -- I think she would be a great choice

And they look good together. The Ohio/Kansas connect could be great too.

[MonkeyFunk]

2. And it's what Democrats want!

It's a winning, historic combination.

[anigbrowl]

4. Don't go all moral majority on me now

It's kind of presumptuous to speak for 'democrats' en masse in order to push your personal point of view. A lot of Dems feel otherwise after this long campaign, as you well know.

[MonkeyFunk]

17. What's "moral majority" about it?

A recent gallup poll shows 55% of Democrats support it. What's christian right-wing about saying so? I really don't understand your complaint.

[mamalone]

9. UGH.........

Not what this Democrat wants:(

[MonkeyFunk]

18. Well

it's a good thing I didn't say "Mamalone wants it." But 55% of real dems do.

[mamalone]

47. LOL!

Your post made me laugh... a real live laugh-out-loud, not merely a lol, which as we all know is not a laugh at all, but I digress....

I'm not sure you meant to give me a smile, but I appreciate it nonetheless... and I'm glad we're on the same team:)

[Name removed]

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[Mudoria]

34. I believe Hillary

has 15,511,003 popular votes in the primary. No one wants that on the ticket?

[donheld]

43. Only a few stubborn idiots want that.

[anigbrowl]

3. Trust me, it isn't.

I must have explained the main reasons 20 times now, so I'm going to reach for a metaphor: you don't flavor apricots with asparagus.

[DangerousRhythm]

14. I like that metaphor.

I love apricots and I love asparagus... just not together. :\

I really do like the idea of Sebelius on the ticket though. :)

[Cali_Democrat]

6. Because Hillary has urinated in the well

[DerekJ]

13. The way Hillary attacked Obama made it impossible for her to be the VP.

[MonkeyFunk]

21. Nonsense

it's just a campaign. She's done nothing to Obama that he hasn't done back. They don't take it as personally as people here do.

[roseBudd]

31. OMG! Obama ran Snipergate ads, he brought up Snipergate ad nauseum! I had no idea

[sfaprog]

35. Sorry - pushing the Wright "issue" to SDs is lower than any candidate sunk

Far lower

[nomaco-10]

19. No, not their biggest nightmare....

more like their biggest wet dream.

[KingFlorez]

22. Exactly

[dcindian]

23. Don't confuse the republicans trying to screw up our primary with real support.

Obama has a clear distinction between himself and people like McCain and Clinton. Things like honesty, sincerity, a clean campaign, and a anti war record separate him from the current administration. So far that distinction has worked very well for him it is becoming ever more prominent each day as America just says no to Hillary and McCain.


I think most people would agree, don't fix what is not broken.

[IDemo]

24. Wow, what a completely new and original idea. Why didn't I think of it?

Oh, that's right, it's also a completely bad idea.

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[merh]

26. No it is not the republicans worst nightmare.

Any ticket with hillary on it is what the republicans want because of the baggage she carries by choice.

Then add to that all of her negative comments about Obama, caught on video, which can be used as ads against one or both, and there is no possible way that ticket would work. She campaigned herself out of the chance for either spot, she has no one to blame but herself.

[saltpoint]

28. I think the time for these two to share a ticket is passed.

That assessment may not be borne out by events, but it's how it feels right now.

Obama is our nominee and he has a wide, deep bench to consider for the veep nom.

Senator Clinton, IMO, brings far more negatives to the ticket than positives. Her negatives are sky-high. She's in debt. Her sustained campaign rages on in the face of numeric reality. She repels many independents. She would deprive Obama of the Iraq War issue versus McCain. She brings no evident states to the fold that he can't win by himself with another veep nom.

It could happen. But I think the odds grow longer by the hour.

[roseBudd]

29. Her negatives are too high, she does not bring a state that doesn't go Blue

The Snipergate fiasco has great art (video) & will be used to validate her already high dishonesty quotient.

[scheming daemons]

30. No.... It's their DREAM. They want...no..they NEED... Hillary on the ballot...

...to generate the GOP fundraising and GOTV that they need.


Hillary is electoral poison.

[Gore1FL]

32. It not the best team available

because as close as they are on most policies, their vision on how to put them in place vary significantly.

[susankh4]

33. It will happen.

If the Dem party wants to win.

[crankychatter]

36. IWV - Kyle-Lieberman - disingenous on a host of other issues

what she says and what she does are worlds apart

I don't trust her... why do you?

[sfaprog]

37. She brings no states Obama wouldn't already win.

Period.

[Joe the Revelator]

38. Because it tears apart Obama's promise for CHANGE

[Forkboy]

39. We have a winnah!

[WA98296]

40. She may be popular with DLC "Dems", and "Reagan Ds" but the GOP would LOVE to VOTE AGAINST her.

And have always wanted to campaign against her.
Her Negatives are too high.

[last1standing]

41. Because I think it would anger conservatives while disheartening many Obama Supporters.

The right wing has been using Hillary Clinton as their red meat item for 16 years now. It is the one thing assured to get dispirited republicans to the polls in November. Conversely, there are many Obama supporters who have taken the concept of "change" to mean that anyone associated with Washington would "corrupt" Obama. These people would lose much of their zeal. Please note, I am not trying to insult Obama supporters as a whole, I am one of them, however there some extremely immature Obama supporters out there just as there are some insanely militant Hillary supporters.

I'd suggest a Clinton backer such as Wes Clark to take the VP spot. This would probably bring in all the Hillary supporters who would end up voting for Clinton as VP without the obvious disadvantages.

[sellitman]

42. She burned her bridges IMHO

Her negatives far outweigh her positives. She doesn't help bring a needed State to the party and I doubt Barack wants Bill hanging around being the third wheel in the Whitehouse.

Do you want to see this McCain camaign ad featuring his Hillary?

"I have a lifetime of experience I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he made in 2002″

Pass.

[AzDar]

44. Obama / Biden 2008!!

:toast:

[jgraz]

45. No, Obama is the Repugs' worst nightmare. Hillary on the ticket just makes him beatable.

Why would Obama want to take on those negatives? Why would he want to drive away recently acquired Repug and independent voters and drive UP turnout against him and every down-ticket Dem? It makes no sense.

[Johnny__Motown]

46. Because the Clinton's come as a package deal, and have a power base that will rival our President's

Also it will bring out all the Clinton haters in the GE.




She is an albatross

[grantcart]

48. If Obama chooses her I am fine with it - I just don't like her tactics in trying to pressure for it