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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:58 AM
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Most Hillary dems will vote for Obama. And that includes women.
Most women aren't petulant, self-defeating twits who will stamp their feet and run off to Daddy McCain. Most women supporting Hillary will not write her name in. Most will pick themselves up and recognize the importance of voting the dem nominee into the White House.

There will be unity. Barring something calamitous, Obama will be the nominee. Hillary will drop out and she will become Obama's biggest backer. The rancor over the primaries will fade and the differences between McCainiac and Obama will come sharply into focus.

Yes, there will be some holdouts. Yes, some dems will simply not vote for a black man. But by and large, the party will come together. The Convention in Denver will be the saccharine love fest it normally is. It will give us a big psychological boost. The repug Convention will look lame and McCainiac will be a stark contrast only a few days after Denver.

And in November we will win the White House. We will win the Congress with increased majorities.

Then the hard work will begin. I'm really hoping that President Obama and the dem Congress can start to repair the damage of 8 years of bushco.

It won't be easy. That's for damn sure.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:04 AM
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1. Of course they will.
Democrats vote for the Democratic nominee. Lots of them just pull the party lever.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:07 AM
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2. If they vote for someone whose followers called them racists, they have no pride.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:09 AM by Perry Logan
The Obamites' use of the race card makes me madder every day. And I'm not alone.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:16 AM
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7. Considering the filth you post
you should shut your mouth and hang your head in abject shame. YOU posted race baiting crap this morning without one shred of evidence.

The hillbots race baiting and slime tactics get more desperate as they realize that their candidate has lost.

Most dems are nothing like you. We know how important this election is. You're more alone than you think, and the company you place yourself in is revolting. Have fun with it now, because your days of posting hateful stuff about Obama and his supporters, are coming to a swift end.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:30 AM
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17. I am a supporter of HRC
and i will vote for whoever the dem is. Your hillbot shit is getting old. See i like your candidate, i hate the asshole comments by his supporters. And no I will not forget that.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:34 AM
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21. I was responding to someone who does indeed fit the description
and who posted something beyond the pale. It's petty of me to use that word, but I only do it in response to those who are acting that way. I hate the asshole comments by so very many Hillary supporters. I won't forget that either.
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salbi Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:18 AM
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8. Are you voting for his followers or for Obama?
If I'm reading this right, you say you wouldn't vote for Obama because his followers call you racist? I get mad at Clinton followers everyday but my reasons for not voting for her are because of her alone, not her followers. If I misunderstood your post, I apologize, if not, I think that is the silliest reason for not voting for someone i have ever heard.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:19 AM
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9. Which one are you logan: Criminals, religious nuts, dope addicts, pedophiles, and traitors.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:24 AM by Boz
FROM YOUR OWN SITE

http://perrylogan.org/


Republicans have enough unfair advantages, without Democrats dissing their own people, based on lies the Republicans made up!

One also notes that the people making the accusations have been revealed as criminals, religious nuts, dope addicts, pedophiles, and traitors.


So which one are you or are you all of the above?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:31 AM
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19. You're mad?? Scratch your ass and get glad. Go Away!!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:41 AM
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24. No You're Not Perry
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:24 AM
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30. Don't vote for the Dem because of what some of his followers say? That's twisted, small
Edited on Mon May-19-08 07:25 AM by Doityourself
minded and short-sighted. Seriously.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:24 AM
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31. Perry, if the choice is between Obama and McCain then there is no choice
A no vote is a vote for McCain. A write in is a vote for McCain.

When all is said I would rather any of our Dem candidates instead of McCain.

Yes, I despise most of the Obama supporters here. Most are on ignore. More get added everyday.

But those people are people on a message board. We don't even know who they are in reality.

I also despise what the Obama campaign has done in regards to race. It may bite them in the ass in the long run.

With all of that said, it is looking as if it will come down to Pres. Obama or Pres McCain. If your misplaced pride resulting from some assholes on a message board causes you to aid in a McCain White House, then I have to tell you that I think you are making a grievous mistake.

I think Sen Clinton would agree with me.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:04 AM
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35. Your continuous promotion of division won't last much longer.
You understand this, right?

Tesha
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:39 AM
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39. And Clinton supporters have called Obama supporters sexist. Where does that leave us?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:31 AM
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43. If they stand by and allow Bush to be re-elected again, they have no brains.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:08 AM
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3. As far as the DU goes:
they will if you would STOP TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO AND THREATENING THEM with boogeymen (real or not.)

Good gawd, is there no end to this? Stop posting about it and if there are posts that make you made about how someone is defending Senator Clinton, just show up, give them a :hug: and let it be.

Catch more flies with sugar and all that.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:09 AM
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4. Obama/McCain 237 - 290; Clinton/McCain 280 - 241
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:12 AM
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5. Dude step off, or step out
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:14 AM by Boz
Support democrats, or support Republicans is your choice.

Your championing Republican points, freep off
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:30 AM
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18. She's going to lose the nomination
Denial is not a river :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:19 AM
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10. if you took offense at the OP, then take a good look at yourself
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:22 AM by cali
there's nothing offensive in it. No threats, no telling anyone what to do, simply an expression of faith in dem voters. And perhaps you should stop telling others what to post. I have faith in dems. I believe that the overwhelming majority of them will vote for the nominee. And I believe that would have been true if Hillary had been the nominee.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:21 AM
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11. Nah, I think we would be seeing the same thing that we are seeing now
only from the Clinton supporters.

And I would be telling them the same thing. Let it be, give a :hug: and move on.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:23 AM
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13. Agreed. Many Obama supporters would be acting like jackasses
and threatening the same crap were things reversed.

:hug:

And I'd be telling them the same things.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:27 AM
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15. it is like the stages of grief:
1. Denial and Isolation.
2. Anger.
3. Bargaining.
4. Depression.
5. Acceptance.

I think the process is still at Anger for a lot of her supporters.

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:35 AM
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32. They are at stage 3 and bargaining with my vagina.
They can all enjoy their lives as Stepford Wives.

I'll have none of it.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:15 AM
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6. Less than 23 % will be lost to attrition, in the thick and heat of it now, it will be less as things
Edited on Sun May-18-08 06:21 AM by Boz
cool down.

And we all pull together to beat McCain
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:22 AM
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12. most is an understatement
virtually all Hillary dems will vote for Obama.

I agree, the rancor will fade.

There will be some who will attempt to keep the rancor alive, but they will FAIL.

:bounce:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:25 AM
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14. Thanks. And sadly,
if Hillary is on the ticket as VP, we'll see some Obama supporters throwing stupid fits. They too will fail.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:30 AM
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16. Oooh I hope she is the VP
That would be a great way of showing how both Senator Obama can rise above what has happened and how Senator Clinton can show she really is supportive by going all out on the Republicans.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:34 AM
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20. We could be more sure of your theory if...
Obama supporters were a bit more welcoming to them. Party unity does not begin with insulting Clinton's supporters. The word 'empathy' comes to mind. Just put yourself in their shoes for a moment. It is very heartbreaking. Can you imagine how you would feel if she was ahead of Obama by a little bit and he was going to lose? We can begin to heal by saying that we are truly sorry and that we are welcoming them into the fold of party unity. Extend a hand of compassion rather than biting it off. What I see most often here at DU from Obama supporters is poor "sportsmanship". So I would not be too comfortable that we have not lost those people. Most of them are gone from DU now. They may pull the lever for McCain when they are alone in the voting booth. Who will ever know????
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:41 AM
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22. I've been there. I supported Howard Dean for well over a year.
Furthermore, he was my guv and someone I'd met several times over the years. Yet after Iowa, I dusted myself off, and went on. And if Hillary were in Obama's place, I would already have switched teams. He's not a little bit ahead; he's insurmountably ahead. And if Hillary supporters would stop posting smears about Obama and his wife, I'd be feeling far more sympathetic. In the last couple of days, Hillary supporters have been bombarding us with all kinds of nasty- including numerous threads that accuse Michelle Obama of a rant against "Whitey". They provide not a shred of evidence for their charges.

And any dem who says they supported Clinton and votes for McCain earns a full measure of contempt. I don't believe there are many of them.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:45 AM
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34. You keep assigning the actions of a few to "Hillary supporters"
Edited on Mon May-19-08 07:45 AM by ruggerson
The only petulance I see here is you and a few others who have this irrational Hillary hatred they can't abandon.

She lost. So what the hell is the point of thread after thread trying to further division?

You keep saying you want to move on to the general, but then you write another thread about Hillary.

What the fuck goes on in that brain of yours?
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:57 AM
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23. It will be helpful if Obama is magnamous
I just fear the role of racism in America. I currently did not expect Obama would make such a strong stand against McCain. Even tho we have policy differences and find his health care plan inadequate; he keeps up the attack we will be proud. He keeps up this kind of counter attack, we might not have to contribute to "Move On."
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:42 AM
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25. Of course Hillary supporters will VOTE for Obama.
What many of them may NOT do is VOLUNTEER their time to work for him in the general election.

As a woman, look at my options:

1) A man who refers to his wife as a "cunt".

2) A man who refers to a woman, in a PROFESSIONAL venue, as "Sweetie".

And, based upon proposed running mates for both, neither of whom feels there is a woman anywhere in the US qualified to be a Vice Presidential candidate.

Well, I suppose the patronizing "Sweetie" is preferable to the derogatory "cunt", but, please don't ask me why I'll not volunteer time for this individual.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:45 AM
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26. I heard a woman on Washington Journal this morning say she was
a Hillary supporter who would vote for the Democratic Congressional candidate but would vote for McCain because of the way Hillary was treated. How can anyone be so stupid? Give up abortion rights and everything else because your feelings are injured. I assume most Hillary supporters have brains and will vote Democratic regardless of who the candidate is, but apparently there are some who like Grandpa's $5,000 tax credit healthcare plan and don't mind losing their employer-provided insurance.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:22 AM
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37. Truth be told -- Many former Democratic women are on the verge of becoming Independents
Edited on Mon May-19-08 08:22 AM by Iceburg
Your insults serve only to accelerate the process.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:49 AM
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27. No. Wait. Stop. Come Back.




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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:37 AM
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28. I'm kicking my own post in response to the onslaught of posts
saying women Hillary supporters won't vote for Obama.

Yes, they will!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:19 AM
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29. Of course they will
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 07:39 AM
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33. Hmm... don't put money on it..
a sure indication of same...Cali is seldom right!
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:27 AM
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38. Which would be more often then you tend to be >.> n/t
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:13 AM
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40. I am absolutely certain of it.
A very small number will not vote for Obama. The rest understand how devastating a McCain presidency could be and will not cut off their nose to spite their face.

Do I like Obama: No, not really.

Do I fear McCain if he gets the power of the presidency? Absolutely

At worst Obama will be a mediocre President.

At best McCain will be a mediocre president.

I think Hillary would be very disappointed in any of her supporters who chose not to support our Party in the GE.



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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:15 AM
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41. I think these two lines sum up a lot:
At worst Obama will be a mediocre President.

At best McCain will be a mediocre president.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:16 AM
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44. And you've been right about what? Hillary winning, as you've claimed for over a year now?
The only ones who take you seriously are the few fellow losers from Hillis44.

Have a nice summer. :hi:
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:16 AM
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36. Let's face it ... it's all about creating a perception, isn't it?
And I have faith that thinking women--which is the vast majority of women--aren't stupid enough to fall for this mock outrage and psychodrama being drummed up by a handful of attention-seeking professional victims and their co-conspirators in the Republican party.

All they are doing is creating an echo chamber with their conference call talking points to create the perception that this 'movement' is bigger than it really is. It is nothing--they speak for 'all women' like Anne Coulter and Michelle Malkin speak for all women.
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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:26 AM
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42. yah. Dems who can't get past the distractions ..

are at best fair-weather friends anyway, whatever candidate they prefer at the moment.
Obama is nurturing roots that go deeper than that.

I like your posts cali!
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