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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:40 AM
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I don't know about anybody else, but this is just plain CREEPY to me.
I'm sorry, but the imagery is just plain creepy to anybody who was alive during the Mao Tse Tung regime of China.

First, the poster currently for sale on hillaryclinton.com:



Next, the image that it bears a striking resemblance to:



I wish Hillary had not gone down the road of this imagery.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:46 AM
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1. Hillary seems a little blue these days
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:47 AM
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2. This is just like the McCain campaign going with
"The Change You Deserve" slogan, borrowed apparently from an ad for an anti-depressant. I credit this kind of thing to staffers not doing the necessary research.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:47 AM
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3. Ummmm....
The presence of stripes hasn't led to any confusion on my part
about whether or not Hillary is Chairman Mao.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:49 AM
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5. The imagery dregs up the Mao imagery.
She could have done much better.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:48 AM
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4. The most honest representation of herself to date. n/t
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:56 AM
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8. >8-)
:thumbsup: Good one!
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:52 AM
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6. She does look quite lovely in the pic tho. nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:55 AM
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7. There's no doubt that it's a great picture of her
they could have done better with it had they been more original with the background, though.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:25 AM
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43. Yes, she really does.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:58 AM
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9. The People's Committee will be visiting YOU, Comrade.
:evilgrin:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:02 AM
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10. I don't like it either.....the alternative is much better:
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:08 AM
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15. Agreed. Much better.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:02 AM
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11. That iconography predates Mao:






Hillary isn't Mao; she's the Mary Buddha Christ ...
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:05 AM
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13. She's claiming to be a Virgin now????
The Virgin Mao. GoBama!
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:14 AM
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18. A reincarnated virgin communist raised from the dead ....
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:03 AM
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12. weird
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:06 AM
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14. Sorry, but I don't see a "striking resemblance"
I do see one graphic element that you will find in may other posters (both political and popular) used in not the most original way.

Look at posters from the late 60's and 70's and you'll see the sunburst stripes used for musicians, concerts, boxing fights, etc.

I think it's ment to appeal to younger supporters. Can't say that I really like it, but it's a pretty unoriginal political poster.

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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:12 AM
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16. And when those don't work; what does she do? ......
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:12 AM
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17. Do you think it's as creepy as this?
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:15 AM
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19. Now that is creepy
Edited on Sun May-18-08 09:15 AM by Mudoria
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:20 AM
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21. Too much for me!
Edited on Sun May-18-08 09:21 AM by susankh4
Geesh! What is the point?


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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:55 AM
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50. Holy crap that is AWFUL!!
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:23 PM
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84. The painter of that portrait looks like a stalker in the making
If I was Obama, I would point him or her out to the Secret Service.
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:30 PM
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85. I don't get it. Is that supposed to be Obama?
Looks more like Bill Bellamy to me.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 05:13 AM
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87. Here's the source:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:23 AM
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22. Aaaaa, I don't think that Obama is selling that one.
Sorry, but that is bogus.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:37 AM
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26. Obama is Fabio! n/t
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:33 AM
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48. Fabiobama?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 01:26 PM
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66. You should copyright that!
I see a line of romance novels, T-shirts, and other such items in your future!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:29 PM
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73. The mental picture is so off-putting that...
I place it in the public domain RIGHT NOW!
;)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:37 AM
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27. Okay, that is astoundingly creepy
At least Obama isn't selling it as a poster on his site.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:49 AM
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31. That one is disturbing.
Others are creepy, but this one is disturbing.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:51 AM
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34. That is way overboard and it's one man's artwork. Not for sale on Obama's site.
There is a difference. Hillary's campaign is selling that thing.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:01 AM
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37. I've seen much worse...
works of art depicting Obama in all sorts of ways..I'm sure you have a large array to choose from. Not surprising that you would compare one of those images, to a Campaign Poster created by the Clinton Campaign to promote her candidacy.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:13 PM
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79. I am waiting for the dairy state to provide a bust of Obama sculpted in butter
:)
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:08 AM
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88. ROFL!
That is so awesomely cheesy. I kind of love it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:20 AM
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90. LOL! Now THAT is funny. n/t
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:20 AM
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20. Wow. When I saw that the Hillary poster link was not to her site
I thought it was a joke. It isn't.
http://www.hillarystore.com/store/HC0925.html
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:25 AM
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23. WTF? Tint control?
that Xerox machine musta been oldddddd! :wow:
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:26 AM
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24. As a graphic designer, I think it looks like a rather sad and unsuccessful attempt to
copy the style of the Shepard Fairey poster for Barack Obama. The person who designed it doesn't really know how to copy that style though.
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discopants Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:31 PM
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86. exactly, the clinton campaign has been imitating most of the obama promotion
Like the change of her fundraising stategy to imitate what has worked so well for Obama. The success of the Obama poster imagery only makes this Hillary poster a weak and blatant imitation and case of 'wannabe-ism' . The Hillary website has morphed itself into a clone of the Obama website too.

...Like "Yes She Will!" chants.

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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:28 AM
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25. It's a message to her fundraisers
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:37 AM
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28. It's every bit as creepy as those Stalinist Obama posters. n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:38 AM
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29. Sunburst design like that is all the rage now
You could find the same format in 10,000 magazine advertisements.

Find something serious to be concerned about.
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DCofVA Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:41 AM
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30. If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ani't gonna make it with anyone any how
Edited on Sun May-18-08 09:42 AM by DCofVA
Don't you know it's gonna be, all right.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:49 AM
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32. In Soviet Union, Stalin always wins the popular vote!
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:56 AM
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35. Somebody lacks design originality & they certainly are not sending the right message.
The person who designed that is either nuts or no fan of Hillary Clinton.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:57 AM
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36. Maybe she is a Frank Black fan?
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:04 AM
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38. Let me present to you a successful use of the starburst motif:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:09 AM
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39. To be fair, the Obama campaign has posters that look like they drew
inspiration from some of the old propaganda posters as well.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:10 AM
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40. social realism and communism are two different beasts, no?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:17 AM
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41. its also similar to
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:21 AM
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42. In some respects it reminds me of this:
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:26 AM
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44. your thinking seems creepy to me
nt
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:27 AM
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45. This image is for her fund raisers.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:30 AM
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46. Kinda like this?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:59 AM
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52. That's the first thing I thought of when I read the OP. n/t
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:59 AM
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53. WOW!!! Where on the Obama site did you find this? I'd like one.
Edited on Sun May-18-08 11:01 AM by KSinTX
But only an official campaign poster.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:03 AM
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54. That's CREEPY TOO!!!
Deifying political figures is always creepy.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:15 AM
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61. I agree
IMO this new Hillary poster is a knock-off of the Obama one. Obama's campaign has really been successful at using graphic design to create some iconic images of the candidate. (All those stylized "hope", "dream" posters), which also goes w/the graphic design of his website. Meanwhile Hillary's site just has an earnest, boring layout of the issues and equally earnest, boring "Vote Hillary!" shirts.

I think this poster is an attempt to create some of the same iconic imagery for Hillary, but it just fails miserably. It's a little painful too, like watching an accountant try to dance ballet. Because that's not who she is at all - Obama is the superstar; Clinton is an earnest, boring, policy geek. That's why I like her. :)
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:31 AM
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47. what an idiot post
flamebait
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:53 AM
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49. That was my first impression of that too. Creepy.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:56 AM
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51. ******FLAME-BAIT** more demeaning of a Presidential candidate--a Democrat*****
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:04 AM
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56. Ha, like you've never gone there
Just in case you're successful and the mods agree with your mis-characterization of the OP

IBTL: Hillary blows!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:04 AM
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55. Pretty funny, actually
I remember last year a similar OP with a similar poster design of Obama where Clinton supporters were making the exact same point.

What goes around comes around, I guess :D
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:04 AM
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57. I want to buy one now.... just to see if it was Made In China
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:10 AM
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59. FORTY BUCKS FOR A FUCKING POSTER???? OMFG......
I was going to buy one just for shits and giggles. I assume it will be a collector's item one day (extremely rare item) but I am not kicking in $40.00 + S&H for it
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:22 AM
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62. Well, she does have a big debt to pay off, ya know
Goes a lot faster with $40 posters than $5 posters :evilgrin:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:54 PM
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65. I suppose, but if it was ten bucks I would have bought one.. so that is
ten bucks she didn't raise
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:06 AM
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58. And Obama has a poster reminiscent of Che.
In fact, a lot of Obama supporters here are using it in their sigs. I'm not that concerned and I don't find either of them creepy.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:12 AM
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60. Thank goodness she isn't going to be the Democratic nominee. (nt)
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Barking Spider Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:55 AM
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63. I have to admit that I kinda like it. The poster, not the candidate. n/t
Edited on Sun May-18-08 11:55 AM by HomeOnTheRange
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 12:53 PM
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64. Always Wonder If The Person Posting Recognizes How Stupid OP's Like This Are To The Sane Amongst Us.
How dumb.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:32 PM
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67. It's creepy
Just like the Obama creepy stuff others have posted in this thread.

People get all creepy on their candidates, it seems.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 02:40 PM
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68. Noooooo, It's A POSTER.
Jeez get a grip.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:53 PM
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69. It's a CREEPY poster
Sorry if you can't handle it, but the consensus on this thread has been, it's creepy.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:54 PM
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70. The Mao picture is what I thought of when I saw that Clinton pic.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:54 PM
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71. Tell your friends at the right wing web sites
No doubt they're the ones that created it.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 05:31 PM
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74. Nope, it's for sale on Hillary's site
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:28 PM
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76. ROFLMAO! You just made him look like a fool. nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:17 PM
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81. No, he made HIMSELF look like a fool. "self-pwn" it's called.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 04:55 PM
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72. yuk, that IS pretty creepy....
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:24 PM
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75. the picture itself is nice but they should change the background
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:33 PM
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77. I agree -- it's a great photo of Hillary herself,
but the background is just too reminiscent of Chairman Mao.

I'm guessing those who designed it are too young to remember.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 07:59 PM
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78. After all the cultist posters I've seen of Obama you criticize her poster?
Don't like it? Then don't buy it.

Who gives a damn.........
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:16 PM
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80. this thread demonstrates how culturally illiterate even those who think they're well informed areey
Edited on Sun May-18-08 08:17 PM by cryingshame
a common graphic devise and symbolic reference and all it reminds some of is Mao?
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:19 PM
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82. Not really creepy
It seems that it is a nostalgia thing - looking like the old propaganda posters. No big thing - just a matter of taste.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:20 PM
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83. It reminds me of EVITA
It's a nice picture of her but the background is weird. Obama got his artist poster and I guess it's Clinton's turn - a little late though.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:14 AM
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89. It kind of reminds me of detergent.


Well, that or Mr. Sparkle...



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