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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:38 PM
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HRC for SCOTUS--this is sounding like meme-building
I'm getting the impression with all of the "Hillary for SCOTUS postings and murmurings I've seen in the Intertubes this last week, that this is more than random people opining-this has the aroma of a directed, concerted effort to permeate the left-leaning forums with this meme.

Anyone else here feel that "disturbance in the Force"?

Duke
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:39 PM
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1. I hadn't come across this,
but it's an interesting idea!
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:39 PM
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2. Why would she put herself through the hell of that kind of
confirmation hearing? I think she'll get a cabinet post, maybe veep, probably not....
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:48 AM
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28. What hell?
A Democratic senate, confirming one of their own. It wouldn't be hell.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:40 PM
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3. I could live with that.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:58 AM
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30. Good. We wouldn't want you to have any problems.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:41 PM
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4. She failed the DC bar exam and has no bench experience. Will never happen.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:41 PM
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5. No idea about the rest of the internet but it's been mentioned here for months
I think it's an intriguing idea. Political battles bring out something in her that I don't like but I think Supreme Court could be great (young enough to be there for decades, intelligent, thoughtful, different perspective than most already on there)
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:42 PM
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6. Echo-chamber effect, partially as an expected result of recent events.
Hillary wants to be on a national level, not just congress.

If she can't get the executive branch nomination, and her ambition is not satisfied by the legislative branch...
only one place left fer her to go, and she won't have to actually win voters to get there.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:44 PM
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7. Used to be, SCOTUS justices are chosen for their wisdom, and good judgment.
of course, I realize that's not happened for a while.

However, it would be nice to return to that standard.


If she were suggested for SCOTUS, I'd have to say there were better qualified candidates. For one, she's never been a judge, on any level, as far as I know.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:56 PM
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15. Alito had LOTS of bench experience
How's that working out?

Just askin'.

I agree that the Supreme Court is supposed to be a repository of legal wisdom. Politics have perverted the Framers' vision. Several justices have risen to make a substantial mark on the federal judiciary without having previously been a judge. Thurgood Marshall springs immediately to mind.

The objection I have to Hillary on the SCOTUS has much more to do with the fact that she worked for Arkansas' most prestigious "silk stocking" law firm, a law firm that routinely works to put the screws to working people. The Rose Law Firm wasn't exactly out there doing the Lord's work representing injured/maimed/ripped off America. Among others, the Rose Law Firm has represented both Tyson Foods (Steroidal Chickens R Us!) and WallyWorld. As the Rose Law Firm says on its own website, "We also advise clients on union avoidance, organizing campaigns and union representation elections." No thanks. We don't need ANOTHER supreme court justice with excellent union busting credentials.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:46 PM
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8. My fear is that the nuclear option would be brought out
but against US this time. The repubs have an irrational dislike for HRC, and if there's ANYTHING they'd literaly stay up day and night to fight, it'll probably be for this, or risk being raked against the coals by their most ardent supporters, and somehow I don't think Joe Lieberman would be too inclined to help forge another "coalition of 12" but who knows. It could literraly halt or slow down legislative progress on everything else.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:47 PM
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9. No Thanks, I'd Like My Rights Back
and Hillary doesn't seem to think they are important. We need someone who will back the Constitution no matter how "unpatriotic" the media makes it seem.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:55 PM
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14. she is pretty fond of wanting to strip them, thats for sure n/t
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:51 PM
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10. Absolutely lacks the judgment
Her various arguments about caucuses not counting, Michigan and Florida this that and the other, pledged delegates don't count, etc.

Can you imagine appointing this kind of reasoning to the Supreme Court?

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:52 PM
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11. Let the SCOTUS have her ! Out of sight, out of mind.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:54 PM
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12. This might actually happen
The Rethugs might allow it just for the mailings they could make in the 2010 and 2012 elections.

Her in supreme court robes would send them into a fundraising lather.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:54 PM
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13. this is just a right-wing fear-mongering scare tactic
I heard this the other day from some scared sh****ss repug. If the repugs don't come together and vote for mccain, Bill and Hillary will both be appointed.



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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:58 PM
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16. She's unqualified and would be a terrible choice. Think Harriet Miers.
She and Harriet Miers are very similar. Neither one really knows anything about practicing law, but both arrived on the scene with good grades when big firms needed to hire some women and promote them 30 plus years ago. They both became downtown lackeys for big corporate interests. One attached herself to one southern governor and the other did likewise. Neither one knows the first thing about trying a case or understanding appellate decisions. Both are pretenders.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:38 PM
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18. Eerily similar.
Thanks for pointing that out. Wherever she goes she'll continue being a tool of corporations while promoting a few teeny bandaids here and there to brag about in her next campaign.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:45 PM
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22. oops
I didn't read your post before I made my post. I swear!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:35 AM
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27. their path is really very similar, except one of them thinks it makes her presidential material
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:01 AM
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31. She knows nothing about practicing law?
She was twice voted one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 04:07 AM
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32. Before or after she got in the White House?
She flunked the DC bar exam, so that would probably not help her during the congressional approval hearings.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:46 AM
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33. Before - in 1988 and 1991
if I recall correctly. She hasn't practiced law since Bill became President.

Not sure the DC bar exam is a deal breaker. There's no requirement that a Supreme Court Justice even be a lawyer at all, and as you know, Clinton IS a lawyer and an accomplished one. She'd be cofirmed by a democratic senate - a senate in which she's pretty popular, even with Republicans. She's well-liked in the Senate.

That said, I don't think she'd be nominated, but if she were, I don't think confirmation would be a big problem.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:29 PM
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40. Yes, Hillary flunked the DC bar exam. She's not smart.
Edited on Mon May-19-08 12:30 PM by TexasObserver
Hillary is the classic over achiever. She can memorize facts, but she's lousy at analysis and thinking. She's never had an original idea in her life. She watches others and uses their material, always.

I'd love to hear Hillary talk without time to study about the ten Supreme Court cases she thinks are most important to Americans. That would be a short, short speech, with lots of stumbling around. I don't think she could NAME ten important cases in American history. She'd get 5-6 and then run out of case names.

Hillary's a corporate errand runner, and always has been.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:15 PM
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17. Another conference call topic?
Could be.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:55 PM
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19. It would make for an entertaining debate in the Senate.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 08:56 PM
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20. Yeah, They Want Her Out of the Way
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 09:07 PM
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21. She's not qualified to serve on the Supreme Court,
so it's never going to happen. I'd oppose her for the same reason I opposed Harriet Myers: not qualified.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:47 PM
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23. She's not qualified for the Supreme Court, and she is not going to be VP.
She'll be lucky if she can hold on to her senate seat after all this crap.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:49 AM
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34. She's not up for reelection until 2012.
Do you see some scenario where she loses here Senate seat prior to that?

The notion that this campaign has made Clinton very unpopular is just silly. She's about as popular as Obama, and she'll keep her Senate seat as long as she wishes.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 12:06 PM
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39. Obama is much more popular - but it sounds like she's set until 2012.
I can't imagine that she'd lose the Senate Seat prior to re-election, and 2012 is a few years down the road in which time memories will fade. So, no, I can't imagine her losing that. She's not even in the same league as Obama in terms of popularity, but whatever.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:48 PM
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24. This has been mentioned before
At least a month ago by Andrew Sullivan. I think that it would be the perfect post-election job for her. Unfortunately, she wouldn't be as much of a trailblazer, since we've already had two women on the court. But she's young enough to be on there for at least 10 years.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 10:55 PM
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25. ...
Whatever she does she will be great at it.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 11:00 PM
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26. All for it
Anything to get rid of her but I bet ole' Bill won't go for that. He has his heart set on getting back in the WH again one way or another.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 03:57 AM
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29. Supreme court makes perfect sense to me love to see Scalia even try take away womens right with her
there.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 08:53 AM
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35. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
She'd never survive the confirmation process. And then the pukes would filibuster. Never going to happen.
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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:08 AM
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36. The Supreme Court is a branch of government where we could use an attack dog
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:11 AM
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37. Not a Chance
First, she has no judicial experience. Second, I doubt she'd accept it. She'll have another chance in 2016 after Obama is done.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:20 AM
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38. Stupid Candidate Obviously Talking Unadulterated Shit?
I'd support that.
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