Will Hillary Clinton become the Harold Stassen of the Democratic Party?

[Midwest_Doc]

For those too young to remember-

"Stassen was later best known for being a perennial candidate for the Republican Party nomination for President, seeking it nine times between 1948 and 1992 (1948, 1952, 1964, 1968, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992) but never winning it or, after 1952, even coming close. He did receive votes at the Republican National Convention as late as 1968 when he won two votes for president (one from Minnesota and the other from Ohio)."

[TexasObserver]

1. Yes, because she is addicted to running for president and she'll never get nominated.

[jgraz]

2. No, she's going to become this year's Ralph Nader

[Lerkfish]

3. I don't think so.

I think 2012 is the last time we'll see her run.

[underpants]

4. Over? Who says it is over? She has just now begun her ACTUAL run to win!!!

[MonkeyFunk]

5. Why do you ask?

She's run exactly once.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask if John Edwards or Dennis Kucinich is the next Harold Stassen? That is, if the stupid question needs to be asked at all.

[samdogmom]

6. Beg your pardon...but Edwards and Kucinich DROPPED OUT when they saw the

writing on the wall. Hillary, for some reason, seems incapable of figuring out that her chance at the nomination is OVER. Instead she and Bill continue to trash our eventual nominee. Thus giving the GOP multiple images/talking points (from an "esteemed" Democrat...no less!) to use against Obama in the general election.

She's hurting, not helping right now!

[PBS Poll-435]

7. So which is it?

Is she the perennial candidate or not?

Poll after poll, a huge majority of Democrats want the contest to continue until everyone has had a chance to vote.

[samdogmom]

8. "A huge majority???"! Really?

If this is true, why isn't she winning more primaries, votes, and super delegates?

[PBS Poll-435]

9. Yeah. A huge majority.

It doesn't have anything to do with Clinton.

DEMOCRATS would like the opportunity for everyone to vote. Imagine that.



http://www.gallup.com/video/107026/Majority-Democrats-Say-Keep-Campaigning.aspx

[Zodiak]

10. Whether Obama is declared the nominee or not...

has no bearing on whether there will be voting. There will be voting even if the entire race was declared over after Iowa.

It is not whether or not people are allowed to vote...that is a strawman.

[PBS Poll-435]

11. Being told that your vote will not matter is akin to

Discouraging participation.

What is so difficult to understand about this point?

When more people feel involved in the process, Democrats do better.

Because of this season, more people are going to turn out for us in November.

[Zodiak]

12. Then you should take that up with Hillary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxxBz-PAjg

Here is where she said that the results of Michigan will not count. You can hear her say it with her own words.

[PBS Poll-435]

14. Nice try.

:thumbsdown:

[Zodiak]

17. No rebuttal?

Good...you obviously get the point. One cannot make the argument only when it suits them.

[PBS Poll-435]

18. Unless the DNC is punishing Oregon and Puerto Rico, that is no argument at all.

It is a steaming pile.

[Zodiak]

20. For what?

For being last?

Some state has to be last, you know. This is a well-known process and 90% of the time, the states that vote last are voting in an election that has already been determined. No one is being punished for being last...that is just the procedure for the primary. They get to vote nonetheless.

Were you complaining about the process like this in 2004 when Kerry sewed everything up on Super Tuesday? I voted for a pre-determined election here in Ohio that year, but didn't feel "punished".

These arguments are bereft of historical and procedural context. You want to take a stand, do so after the election and change the process. Doing it during the process is nakedly self-serving and at this point, divisive.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. Wrong

Kucinich never dropped out in 2004 - he went all the way to the convention. He dropped out this year because he had to campaign for his own House seat.

Edwards hasn't "dropped out" technically - he's suspended his race. Clinton has run one race, and she's still in it. The comparison to Stassen is absurd.

[Midwest_Doc]

16. HRC began this campaign in 1993. n/t

[FredScuttle]

13. I think she'll end up being the modern-day Hubert Humphrey

who squandered much of his reputation, legacy and goodwill in the Democratic Party in his lust for the Presidency.

[Xenocrates]

15. She is still a U.S. Senator

And while she continues to win that senate seat, she will probably continue her quest for the White House.