The wingnuts are really pushing the "Michelle Obama is fair game" meme.

[11 Bravo]

Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Gallagher, et al, are all flogging the notion that Michelle's "For the fist time in my adult life I'm proud of my country" comment is somehow a major impediment to an Obama candidacy. Their claim that the words, views, and actions of a spouse will have a very real effect on the President are now being parroted by the dittoheads.
Today a Repug co-worker of mine was in the staff lounge holding forth in front of a decent sized crowd on how Michelle Obama, and by extension, Senator Obama, "needs to be held accountable for those remarks". I innocently interjected myself into the conversation by asking, "So, do you believe that spouses should be a part of this race?" He replied, "Absolutely!" I then responded, "Then what are we to make of the fact that Cindy McCain is an adulteress, a thief who stole from a charity to support her drug habit, and has also displayed a penchant for plagiarism?" Hell, at that point I almost felt sorry for the poor, deluded jerk-off. The lounge erupted in laughter, and without so much as a splutter, he turned and walked out of the room.
Barack Obama was not my first choice, but, by God, it appears that he will be the nominee of the Democratic party, and I will not stand silent and watch him attacked with specious arguments put forward by wingnuts and other assorted bullshit artists.

[mystieus]

1. ..... zzzzz

[11 Bravo]

4. Thanks for the well-reasoned response. By the way, did you even read the post?

[Adelante]

41. Thank you for defending our nominee nt

[EFerrari]

8. That's the spirit!

lol

[anonymous171]

2. If they want to attack MO, then Cindy McCain is fair fucking game.

We won't let them walk all over us this year.

[Heather MC]

49. I just wish some one would report the truth. Michelle's words where unfairly edited..

She did not say, "For the first time in my life I am proud of my country"
She said, "For the first time in my life I am REALLY proud of my country"
If you listen to the idiotic Commercial the repukes have put out you hear her say "Rr-proud"

Obviously they realize leaving her words as is, completely changes the meaning they are trying to convey.

IT's really sick

[MonkeyFunk]

50. No

she said both.

There were two speeches in two cities. In one she said "really proud", in the other just "proud".

But I don't think it substantively changes the meaning either way.

[Heather MC]

51. IN the commercial I am speaking about they edit "really" out, you dumb monkey

If the word doesn't matter why remove it? why not leave it as is?

[Cosmocat]

64. I had the same exact exchange as the OP ...

Me, I am a live and let live kind of person, all people are flawed, and all things being equal would be more than happy to have Cindy McCain be pretty much of a who is that figure in this race ...

But, some knucklehead on another open board was railing on Michele and I let him have it ...

Michele, a woman who grew up LEGIT middle class and worked her way up in life, who is a model wife and mother vs a woman of privilege who stole another woman's man, is a pill popping addict and stole pills from her own non-profit to support her drug addiction ...

The string ended there ...

[EFerrari]

3. Good work, 11 Bravo.

He's not my first choice either, but I'll be damned if I let the wingnuts trample our candidate EVER AGAIN. :toast:

[cali]

5. Excellent. Sounds like you got the best of that argument.

I really don't think that they're gonna get far with this. They'll try, but it just looks like they're trying to avoid talking about McCain. Thanks for sticking up for our likely nominee.

[DevonRex]

6. Thanks 11B. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

7. Nice going. Made my day.

[sfaprog]

9. Bring. It. On.

motherfuckers are in for the whooping of their lives this year. It'll be such a large margin not even Diebold will be able to win it for them.

[class2068]

10. This is more glass jaw

crap. Every Repub candidates' wife has been fair game in the past. How can Obama demand that his outspoken wife be off bounds?

[anonymous171]

13. What glass jaw? He's coming out and saying that they are disgusting.

[11 Bravo]

21. How are you enjoying your visit to our fair planet?

Apparently in the parallel universe which you inhabit, Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagan, Pat Nixon, and Mamie Eisenhower were all subjected to well coordinated attacks by Democrats, as their husbands campaigned for the Presidency. Here on Earth, that never happened.

[mopinko]

47. hey, those guys all were held accountable! they lost!!

oh yeah.....
edited to say- does billy carter count?

[MidwestTransplant]

11. Is the fact that Cindy McCain stole drugs from her charity an impediment?

[rurallib]

19. don't forget she tried to frame somebody else.

instead of taking responsibility she tried to frame her charity manager. That was despicable.

[MidwestTransplant]

31. Didn't know that. Thanks

[NatBurner]

12. that's what these farting assholes don't get

turnabout isn't even fair play- we've got REAL dirt on you

it's like beating up babies

[renie408]

14. Wait...Cindy McCain is REAL? I thought she was a plastic doll that ran on solar powered batteries.

I figured that was why they had to live in Arizona. She is completely plastic.

[BOSSHOG]

15. I love it when "conservatives" blather on about how people should be held accountable

[Window]

16. Great reply.

[DearAbby]

17. Yes, The GOP " Christian Family Values" Party

:sarcasm:

[soaplover20012001]

18. oh

michelle is strong

[Adelante]

43. Dead and buried

[leftofcool]

20. So go attack McCains wife

[sniffa]

22. Fine, then Vicodin Wonder is fair game too

[AspenRose]

52. Damn straight

:thumbsup:

They better reconsider going down that road....

[avenger64]

23. It's just good strategy - she's made herself a liability.

She's got a loud mouth, and has said some things that someone in her position really shouldn't.

Obama needs to stop telling the GOP 'lay off', because they're never going to, and tell his wife to keep her pie-hole shut about anything political.

[NatBurner]

25. what else is he supposed to tell them?

"yes, please, continue attacking my wife"

he's doing the same thing YOU would do

AND he's making fools of the gop

probably pointless to argue with u tho, so fuckit

[avenger64]

26. He's not making fools of anyone - he thinks this trick is going to shame them...

... get real! This is the party that ran ads attacking John Kerry's war record. Remember Willie Horton? They can't be shamed.

She just needs to keep the talk social, and stay in the background.

[NatBurner]

36. I SAID FUCKIT, SIR!!

[avenger64]

38. I don't care what you said ....

.... you go, I respond. And you need to watch who you're talking to like that. .

[11 Bravo]

39. COOL! An anonymous internet badass. We don't get too many of those at DU.

[NatBurner]

40. self-edit

no point in watering the gremlins

[avenger64]

45. Good idea, little fella.

n/t

[NatBurner]

46. lol

i'm 6'5

u really have me shivering

[Forkboy]

55. What are you going to do? Beat him up?

:rofl:

[NatBurner]

71. eh

i took pledge

[Adelante]

44. Like a good little woman nt

[11 Bravo]

30. So she's a touch too "uppity" for you?

[avenger64]

34. It's not 'uppity', just loud. Brash.

The exact thing people in the Heartland hear and say "damned if I'm going to listen to that for 4 years".

She needs to find some type of cause(s), and stay in the background.

[eridani]

48. That sounds strangely like the Repuke take on Teresa Kerry, oddly enough n/t

[avenger64]

61. Which worked, apparently

n/t

[haymakeragain]

66. Talk about sexist, what the fuck?

I think your slip is showing a bit.

[avenger64]

68. No. If it was his brother, I'd say the same thing.

Think I'm kidding about possible bombshells?

Try this.

She's not running for anything, and can only hurt him by saying anything political. She should zip it.

[kwassa]

72. your link doesn't work

and there is no video at that site on the subject, only this quote:

"But the real reason for Obama’s extraordinary freakout is that he fears the release of the videotape, reported here, of Michelle Obama in the pulpit of Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church railing against “whitey.” "

This site is for crazy people, if you read some of the commentary.

Where is the video?

[DearAbby]

24. When that doesn't work are they going after his daughters?

Pathetic pieces of shit...the hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

[Perry Logan]

27. Ask Chelsea.

Of course, DUers go after Chelsea all the time. So it's not just wingnuts, is it?

[anonymous171]

29. Well, a hillary supporter was recently saying that since MO is campaigning for Obama

that she is not free from attack. By their logic, neither is Chelsea.

[NYCGirl]

35. Are you comparing an actively campaigning 27 year old who works for

a hedge fund with a 6 year old and a 9 year old?

[DearAbby]

37. Do they doubt Chelsea's patriotism?

Does she have to do double back flips to prove she loves her country? I have never heard anyone say anything remotely simular about Chelsea as they do about Michelle Obama. It seems Black people have to prove they love their country...like they are some fucking aliens in their own country...white people are never questioned.

I myself had respected the Clinton's request, to leave Chelsea out of it.

[Perry Logan]

28. Here's a song for Michelle Obama...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6Ce2Kl58o

[BenDavid]

32. I'm just saying, IF, there happens to be this so called tape out there

of Michelle Obama's anti-white rant using the word, "whitey". If this is true, it could be lethal. It's one thing to distance yourself from your pastor, but quite another thing to distance yourself from your spouse. Maybe others in the democratic party may know there is something out there.

[GreenPartyVoter]

42. Her husband and children are part-Caucasian.Why would she use a word that

might hurt their feelings?

[kwassa]

73. There is no tape, this is just Internet bullshit

[TechBear_Seattle]

33. That is an excellent response

Of course, it would have been my first response, too. :hi:

[Froward69]

53. Hear Here!!! I'll drink to that.

[NJObamaWoman]

54. White Guilt anyone? All those nasty people at Fox want to punish and

bash any non GOP black person. Part of it is that they don't understand black culture & values, don't get why many vote Dem, and hate the fact that blacks are moving up in life as middle to upper class citizens. By Michelle saying what she said its their way of attacking black society. These people think that just because Michelle went to an Ivy League school and moved up in life that she has nothing to complain about. The reality is that black people are treated like shit no matter what position they have due to their race. See these people don't get it or don't want to get it because they will start feeling guilty.


I agree with Michelle as a black woman I can count on 1 hand how many times I've felt proud of America. Most of those times came when I was 16 and up.

[treestar]

69. This is like the Rev. Wright thing, too. If one is AA, why would one

have an unqualified love of and pride for this country? Of course it would be ambivalent. Why do they expect unqualified praise for this country from any AA person? Only Rush Limbaugh and such other morans would go full flight ahead trying to make an issue of this, when, if a person only thinks about it, it's obvious. Shows what morans the right wing are.

[VolcanoJen]

56. Classic wingnut take-down!

Nice work, 11 Bravo. :thumbsup:

[Triana]

57. a repulsive display of facial excrement - the lot of them. n/t

[Ian_rd]

58. Sweet retort. I'm not worried about the Michelle attacks.

Barack has shown what his response will be: to call them cowardly attacks on his "family." How perfect is that considering the Right's love affair with the word "family?" They can't win with that argument, mainly because of Obama's willingness to call it what it is.

[MNDemNY]

59. It's all fair game, it will all be used. Deal with it.

[bhikkhu]

60. They did the same to Hillary in 1993

And then every year after. Some of their popularity over the years has been built on tearing down outspoken women, so I wouldn't expect them to stop.

But they suck thoroughly anyway....

[SoonerPride]

62. Cindy McCain is a drug thieving death merchant.

I'm ready to sling as much shit on that needle nosed pill popping adulteress as is needed.

[Vinca]

63. 11 Bravo, your response to that guy was a thing of beauty.

:toast:

[kentuck]

65. Get used to it...

This will be a major part of their strategy.

[Efilroft Sul]

67. Right-wing radio show hosts have no idea how dangerous these attacks are.

If there were a concentrated effort to go after Cindy McCain as rabidly as the right is going after Obama's wife, we could witness the finest self-destruction in modern politics as John McCain goes positively apeshit trying to act all chivalrous. And if the Democrats followed up his flip-out with an "In your guts, you know he's nuts" kind of ad, his campaign is sunk.

I won't accuse these talk-show hosts of being smart, but if they have a shred of intelligence let alone decency, they will cease these attacks on Michelle Obama at once. If not, the Democrats have to play dirty and go after Cindy McCain--which they probably won't have the guts to do. Reference: Kerry, John + Swift Boat Vets + 2004.

[GoesTo11]

70. Not just wingnuts. DUers too.

Two recent posts:

"Michelle is out there campaigning on her own. She is fair game." - Rodeodance

"If she campaigns for him she's fair game." - Tuckessee

There are more.